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Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources
    #1707832 - 07/12/03 04:24 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

Another tool in their arsenal. With it, they will be able to connect user that are caught with small amounts, to the dealers they got it from.


http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993919


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1707893 - 07/12/03 05:32 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

What about clones? Since I know it is common among pot growers to exchange clones, wouldn't this muddy the evidence? Or, is a clone not really a clone?

Additionally, what does this really achieve? If they know about a pot grower, then what would this technique allow them to do that they couldn't by just watching people coming & going from his house?


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1708052 - 07/12/03 09:58 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

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Additionally, what does this really achieve? If they know about a pot grower, then what would this technique allow them to do that they couldn't by just watching people coming & going from his house?




That is what I was thinking. I guess they would have more evidence of distribution though.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: shakta]
    #1708077 - 07/12/03 10:24 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

seriously, what's the point? It's compleatly useless, just money wasted in this "war on american people"


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: gdman]
    #1708613 - 07/12/03 04:05 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

"If you're buying marijuana from somebody with terrorist ties, it could be traced back to that person," warns Gary Shutler of the Washington State Patrol's crime laboratory division.)



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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1708669 - 07/12/03 04:29 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

What terrorist organizations traffic in marijuana? That's what I would like to know. Oh,yeah....NONE.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: monoamine]
    #1708695 - 07/12/03 04:36 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

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What terrorist organizations traffic in marijuana? That's what I would like to know. Oh,yeah....NONE.



Taliban, northern alliance, hezbollah.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1708705 - 07/12/03 04:38 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

i wonder how many millions of dollars got wasted for this useless study


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1708716 - 07/12/03 04:41 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

These organizations traffic in marijuana? I find that hard to believe. Even the DEA states that most of the marijuana consumed in the United States is grown domestically or imported from Mexico and Canada.

It doesn't even make economic sense. Why would you traffic in weed when you can make far more off coke and heroin? Marijuana is bulky,smelly and compared to these drugs,cheap.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: monoamine]
    #1708743 - 07/12/03 04:50 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

Lots of the hash in the netherlands comes from afghanistan and pakistan. Moracco is a huge supplier of hash for europe. Terrorist agents do run hash and opium rings. AlQaeda has been traced to hash and opium trafficking through Kosovo. They do it because they can make money.

The shit you buy in the US probably came froma chump growing it his backyard. But if you want some terrorist hash just go to a hash bar in amsterdam and order some afghani from afghanistan.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1709288 - 07/12/03 08:07 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Even if the Talbiban and such supplies hash to Europe, it probably accounts for very little of it's income. They do (or they used to at least) supply huge amounts of opium and heroin,I don't deny that,but we were talking about weed. And even if people in Muslim nations traffic drugs,it doesn't necessarily mean they have any ties to terrorists (unless you're Bush and you see every brown skin person as a potential terroist.

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The shit you buy in the US probably came froma chump growing it his backyard. But if you want some terrorist hash just go to a hash bar in amsterdam and order some afghani from afghanistan.




My point exactly.European hash has no relevance to marijuana in American.It's totally ludicrous to think if your bying a bag of weed in the US you are somehow supporting terrorism.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1709992 - 07/12/03 11:33 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

WELL your paying for it and your elected official is supporting it.Since tuesday is open....VOTE damnitt


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: monoamine]
    #1710005 - 07/12/03 11:38 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

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These organizations traffic in marijuana? I find that hard to believe. Even the DEA states that most of the marijuana consumed in the United States is grown domestically or imported from Mexico and Canada.



Key word here being "most." The government is full of shit for wanting people to believe that every joint they smoke was smuggled in by terrorists, but the fact is that there are some terrorist organizations that do smuggle marijuana(though heroin, cocaine, etc. are more commonly used).


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: silversoul7]
    #1710247 - 07/13/03 01:12 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Most as in a small amounts come from South America and is smuggled in through Mexico.Can anybody supply me with credible evidence that terrorist organizations smuggle marijuana to the United States? It just doesn't make any kind of sense. They would most likely have to grow it outside and it would be shwag. Their is no way that they could compete with Mexico. And the good bud is grown domestically or imported from Canada.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: monoamine]
    #1710251 - 07/13/03 01:15 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Marijuana trade coming from Mexico has greatly decreased over time. In many cases punishment for marijuana in mexico can be far worse that in america. Ive actually heard of Mexicans sneaking into America just to grow some pot in northern cali.


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Re: Cannabis DNA fingerprinting used to track sources [Re: monoamine]
    #1710257 - 07/13/03 01:17 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

I'd rather doubt that more than several tons of hash is smuggled by terrorists into north america. That would be about 0.00001% of it all.

BTW, I read that Hezbollah cells are forming in Columbia and Bolivia, and getting involved in narco trafficking of coke, though I rather believe that it's propagandaish at best and an outright lie most likely.


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