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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Anonymous #16]
#17067790 - 10/20/12 02:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can you buy exit bags over the internet? I've had enough.i was gonma post a paragraph on why the way i feel i do but i think this forum is part of the conspiracy so suck my dick bitches.at least yall can providebadvice on not fucking this up. i dont want to survive my attempt andvwake up in the mental hospital for everything to begijbagain.
i was prepariing the rope in the garage but i dont think i have the balls to hang myself yet. i could take a loan out, buy chemicals over the internet. combine a few depressants and anti-emetics. this sounds like a oretty awesome way to go. would i need a good ratio of antiemetics to counter thebmassive doses of vomit inducing drugs? big dose antiemetic, litre of vodka and a couple hundred mg of benzos sounds pretty foolproof to me
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Anonymous #69]
#17069779 - 10/20/12 09:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Could something that looked like a dust mask be used instead of an exit bag? A mask over the nose / mouth shan't be as claustrophobic.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17069921 - 10/20/12 09:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Clytie said: Could something that looked like a dust mask be used instead of an exit bag? A mask over the nose / mouth shan't be as claustrophobic.
You could probably use an oxygen mask. But you'd have to use nitrogen instead of helium because helium would make the mask fly off your face probably.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Baranovich]
#17070876 - 10/21/12 01:55 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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pablokabute said: the truth is, though you die, this thread will never will.

i have noticed that even in the most barren, isolated landscapes of insomnia, where the entire shroomery dies and every wing seems cold and barren - this infamous, annexed-out old thread still continues to go bump in the night. every night.
watch it do it again tonight. but you know what? I really think that some of you need to take certain discussions to PM/e-mail, and not on shroomery.
how's it gonna look if you have two people PUBLICLY POSTING about meeting up at some crazy-high bridge, and then they actually do, and jump??
i don't think shroomery needs the kind of heat, and i believe posting very specific details/techniques is really not that great for the shroomery, either.
plenty of people have listed plenty of ways/lists to extremely easily kill yourself. so it's kinda like, whereas i'm not advocating suicide, there's really not much left to talk about here. and yet yes, this thread will go on.
Um well.....
With regard to the New River Gorge Bridge, you are obviously referring to people like me, SoupNazi, and Blackbird, among others.
I would only say this. You are right in the sense that it's perhaps not the best topic to be discussed in detail on a public forum, if, as you said, someone were to actually to carry out a suicide based on the suggestions in this thread.
However, I would also say this. The wishes and desires to no longer be alive, and the desire to end our own lives, are GENUINE and they are REAL. I do not believe that they should necessarily be supported OR condemned, but rather simply left for what they are.
I could not tell you or decide for you what your own personal breaking point would be any more than you could tell me mine.
I will be going far out on a limb saying this, but so be it. If my suggestion of jumping off of a bridge in West Virginia gives someone a new option, and a new choice that they had not thought of before, and it allows them to carry our their final act on their own terms.....well then so be it! They came here seeking a method, a way out, and they took it.
We impose so many rules and laws on our existence, made ALL THE WORSE by man-made religions and doctrines of "sin" and "condemnation".
If people can't come to a forum like this to discuss the taking of one's own life, or at least the contemplation of it.....well where can they go? A suicide support group???? That's no good, because a suicide support group wouldn't discuss methods, they would only discuss the sanctity and importance of individual life, and they would do nothing but discourage suicide. AND, more insidiously, that group would most likely impose fucking Christianity on its members, further increasing the sense of guilt and fear, that they might be "betraying" their precious fucking Christian God if they committed suicide.
It is CERTAINLY NOT a popular notion in our culture, on this planet, to give validity to the feelings that people have who desire to end their own lives. What AMAZES ME about this culture we live in - Is that it simultaneously drives into our brains that each and every life is precious and that each and every life has a destiny and meaning - and then our culture proceeds to live life the exact OPPOSITE way. We treat each other as mere numbers, as commodities. If you don't have the right car, you can't get the girl, if you don't have a big enough house, You're considered a lesser person. If you don't make enough money, you are rejected by a higher class of people. If you don't have the right credentials, you simply don't have access. If you have the wrong shoes or jacket, with the wrong logo, you are not considered cool. If you have a mental illness, you are forced to the fringes of social society, to work out your own loneliness and left to deal with the painful hell of your own isolation.
We do everything in our power in society to remind each other that we're NOT SPECIAL, that life ISN'T SACRED, that we do NOT HAVE A DESTINY...that we ARE NOTHING BUT a number...... we do everything we can to categorize, classify, judge, partition, and seal off people into their social and economic slots....while at the same time preaching a religion that says that we were all put here for a special purpose and a higher plan, "God's Plan." "We were all put here for a higher purpose."
And....on all that I call "BULLSHIT". I call "BULLSHIT". BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT.
If you want to know the truth, I have a theory that many, if not most people who end up in a suicidal state, end up there largely because they have come to the internal realization that indeed, God is bullshit and absolutely not real, that there IS NO special plan for all of us, that we do NOT have a higher purpose. And that hits us as an epiphany of sorts.
Once that epiphany is reached, suicide is a logical conclusion.
NOW, one could call what I just described as "Depresssion", or an "illness", that needs to be cured by therapy or medication. I do not believe that is necessarily so.
A person might have an excellent quality of life and really fortunate life circumstances, and yet STILL come to the realization that we have no higher purpose, and that there is no higher plan.
While it is certainly true that a HUGE factor in becoming suicidal is due to a low quality of life, envy, jealousy, loneliness....i.e. seeing other people have things that you can't seem to get - watching a young couple in love, watching people who have more friends and more money than you....a guy getting the girl you could never hope to get..... someone with a career that you tried to achieve but fell short. All of those factors add up over time, and the longer you spend falling short while seeing others achieve and get things that you don't have.....that builds up into what can become a suicidal philosophy. How could it NOT?
People kill themselves ALL THE TIME because of a sudden divorce or a breakup with a boyfriend or a girlfriend. People kill themselves ALL THE TIME when facing a job loss, or the loss of their house, or the looming possibility of complete financial destitution, running out of resources and having no options left. People kill themselves ALL THE TIME over facing the prospect of going to prison because of a crime, or because they are about to lose their social standing in society because of a scandal. There is a REASON that prisoners in Solitary Confinement, or with long sentences kill themselves in such large numbers.....because human beings were not meant to merely exist in a cage, cell, or box. You put a human being into a container and force him to live there day and night, for the rest of their life, and that person is not going to want to continue living. Who in their right minds WOULD? Even a SERIAL KILLER in Solitary Confinement for a life sentence understands the concept of quality of life. Even he recognizes that human beings were not wired to be locked into a box for 23 hrs. out of 24, never to see the light of day again, with his food given to him through a slot in the door. Even the serial killer feels the sheer fear and terror knowing that the rest of their lives will be spent merely existing. Their life has indeed been taken away by their sentence.
Who, even the most psychotic of killers, wouldn't understand that concept?
Suicide is merely a reaction to life circumstances, quality of life(or the lack of it), and our own internal believes about why we exist in the first place.
I suppose I am in the most dangerous category of all. Low quality of life, a lot of loneliness and jealousy about what I don't have, a crippling mental illness that affects my every thought, tremendous lack of self confidence, AND an atheist who doesn't believe there is a God or that there is an afterlife. The only thing keeping me here is the lingering fear of what if I'm wrong. What if I kill myself, and we really DO go to hell? What if I kill myself, and there really IS eternal punishment? What if this whole time I've been wrong and God really IS real?
So, to sum up, I am extremely suicidal but fearful of doing it. But I am also damn fucking tired of living this life. If you had asked me when I was a kid if THIS is how I thought my life would turn out, I would have laughed in your face. So much for laughing. The joke was on me.
I am grateful that a thread like this exists for people to come and vent, and to share their thoughts and ideas, even if it is on such a morbid subject.
My belief is this - if I can assist someone in helping them to end their lives, and help them do it in a way that causes them the least pain, then I do not think that is necessarily a negative thing.
They have chosen to end their lives, and they came here to seek out ideas and options on how to do it. And we are here providing those ideas and options.
Who am I, and who are WE to judge that person, or any person for making that choice? We're not in their skin, we're not in their shoes, WE do not know what THEIR definition of what their own breaking point is. Only THEY know what it is.
And we are in no position to judge them for that.
I'm glad this thread exists. If Shroomery were to take it down, I think that it would be wrong, and it would be very unfortunate.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Anonymous #12]
#17071486 - 10/21/12 07:38 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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You could probably use an oxygen mask. But you'd have to use nitrogen instead of helium because helium would make the mask fly off your face probably.
Why do you think the helium will not work with an oxygen mask? Nitrogen is my perfect way, yet there seems to be an issue here in the UK to source it? Furthermore, the helium balloon kits already come fitted with the necessary thing.
Does anyone know the name of the valve I need to swap on the tank to make the air flow freely? Is it called free flowing something? Do they come in different sizes and if so what size should I get?
Thank you
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17071944 - 10/21/12 10:10 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Clytie said: Could something that looked like a dust mask be used instead of an exit bag? A mask over the nose / mouth shan't be as claustrophobic.
This guy used a dust mask to kill himself with carbon monoxide: http://www.jerryhunt.org/kill.htm (and he provided detailed instructions and tips on the method just before he took his life). A similar set up might work for helium or nitrogen as well, I imagine..
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: SoupNazi]
#17072994 - 10/21/12 01:51 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Clytie said: Could something that looked like a dust mask be used instead of an exit bag? A mask over the nose / mouth shan't be as claustrophobic.
This guy used a dust mask to kill himself with carbon monoxide: http://www.jerryhunt.org/kill.htm (and he provided detailed instructions and tips on the method just before he took his life). A similar set up might work for helium or nitrogen as well, I imagine..

Thanks as always! I am currently researching these masks and hopefully buy one soon.
Does anyone know the name of the apparatus I need to find to permit the air to flow freely from the tank (instead of intermittently as when inflating a balloon?) Does anyone know anything about the sizing?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17073560 - 10/21/12 03:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks as always! I am currently researching these masks and hopefully buy one soon.
Does anyone know the name of the apparatus I need to find to permit the air to flow freely from the tank (instead of intermittently as when inflating a balloon?) Does anyone know anything about the sizing?
Thanks in advance!
I don't know about the special valves that you may need. It probably depends on the type of the tank. On the other hand, it looks like the CO tank that guy in the picture used is already equipped with the necessary hardware, so that may be another viable option. I believe someone on here said about 50 pages back that you can get CO tanks from welding shops..
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17074692 - 10/21/12 06:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dood. Just come back. Give it a month's rest. Might be worth it, who knows.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Anonymous #68]
#17077456 - 10/22/12 05:33 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Perhaps this is already somewhere here, but after much research I found the full step by step overview for the Helium method. (Could be substituted for Nitrogen or similar)
http://ash2.wikkii.com/wiki/Helium
Incidentally, can I further add how pleasant it was to find such a site where people are willing to talk and exchange thoughts freely. It certainly makes a pleasant contrast to the usual "do-gooder-pro-life" types.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Anonymous #68]
#17077457 - 10/22/12 05:35 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Dood. Just come back. Give it a month's rest. Might be worth it, who knows.
Dear Anon,
Thank you for your thoughts; it is most kind. Yet, it is not a rash decision but one that has been both carefully and methodically arrived.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17077657 - 10/22/12 07:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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This guy used a dust mask to kill himself with carbon monoxide: http://www.jerryhunt.org/kill.htm (and he provided detailed instructions and tips on the method just before he took his life). A similar set up might work for helium or nitrogen as well, I imagine..

Thanks for this. My question is pertaining to the video below. Please check the link
At .30 he removes what he calls the "nylon fitting" that comes with the tank and then he mentions that he replaces it with a "free flowing". This is what enables the gas to flow out on its own without applied pressure. Does anyone know what this apparatus is called, and any advice on the sizings that need to be acquired?
Thank you very much.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17077966 - 10/22/12 09:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why do you need a special valve/fitting at all? This site http://ash2.wikkii.com/wiki/Helium#How_to_adjust_the_hose_to_the_tank_and_.22make_the_set.22 indicates that you simply need to take off the existing plastic nozzle and then connect your hose to the spout...
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: SoupNazi]
#17078508 - 10/22/12 11:46 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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SoupNazi said: Why do you need a special valve/fitting at all? This site indicates that you simply need to take off the existing plastic nozzle and then connect your hose to the spout...
Yes, but if you look at the video below:
it may explain further as he demonstrates. When you buy a helium tank the nozzle it comes with works by pressing down to cause the balloon to inflate. When you have stopped pressing it, gas would no longer be released. Therefore, in order for the air to be constant, someone either needs to be pressing the nozzle or it needs to be changed with one that permits the air flows freely.
Unless anyone else has tested this method has noticed something else?
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17078553 - 10/22/12 11:56 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Drinking yourself to death sounds more pleasant enough
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17078750 - 10/22/12 12:31 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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it may explain further as he demonstrates. When you buy a helium tank the nozzle it comes with works by pressing down to cause the balloon to inflate. When you have stopped pressing it, gas would no longer be released. Therefore, in order for the air to be constant, someone either needs to be pressing the nozzle or it needs to be changed with one that permits the air flows freely.
Unless anyone else has tested this method has noticed something else?
Here you go: http://www.peacefulpillhandbook.com/page/Buy+Helium+Fittings?
A little pricey, but considering the application, who cares, right?
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: SoupNazi]
#17078836 - 10/22/12 12:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here you go: http://www.peacefulpillhandbook.com/page/Buy+Helium+Fittings?
A little pricey, but considering the application, who cares, right? 
Wow that is ridiculously pricey! Haha Thank you for finding for me however, perhaps I can replicate a cheaper option now!
I am I only one who finds it hugely amusing how much people are capitalizing on those wishing to end their lives? I mean, they can argue about their costs for running the sites etc - but let's face it: their profitability margins are incredibly high! hahaha
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Anonymous #50]
#17078867 - 10/22/12 12:51 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Drinking yourself to death sounds more pleasant enough
Imagine if a person could die by orgasm. Like, that final climax would be the final exit. That, is perhaps the most pleasant.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17079191 - 10/22/12 01:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Drinking yourself to death sounds more pleasant enough
Imagine if a person could die by orgasm. Like, that final climax would be the final exit. That, is perhaps the most pleasant.
Dude from inxs just gave a hell yea. The kung fu caradine guy too.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Clytie]
#17079495 - 10/22/12 02:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow that is ridiculously pricey! Haha Thank you for finding for me however, perhaps I can replicate a cheaper option now!
I am I only one who finds it hugely amusing how much people are capitalizing on those wishing to end their lives? I mean, they can argue about their costs for running the sites etc - but let's face it: their profitability margins are incredibly high! hahaha 
Yeah, that's total BS. I guess they figure we're going to die anyway and are desperate to do so quickly, so who cares how much the "kit" costs. If you think about it, we won't even have to pay the credit card bill. But yeah, that's pretty unscrupulous of them.
Plus, they probably need the extra money for a "lawsuit emergency fund".. haha..
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