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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Cornholio]
#1708492 - 07/12/03 01:03 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whatever again. Call it Reaganomics if you want. It worked then and it will work again. The 80s were a great time for this country. Then the recession hit like it always will. If most of the people in the country have money to spend, they will buying stuff. More stuff gets bought making more jobs, making more revenue, making more tax money.
This is just part of it. Forget govt. spending for a minute damn it. The economy is cyclical. I don't know how old you are, but I have seen it in my life. It happens over and over. When it is in the dumper the govt collects less taxes. When it gets good they get more. Overall the economy keeps growing, as well as govt. spending. Blame Bush all you want for spending. I agree he spends way too much. Actually the Congress spends way to much. They decide what gets spent on what. I think some of the Republican motivation is purely political. They are doing a lot of what the Dems usually do. Social programs, and aid to everyone on the planet. The point is not cutting taxes would not help lower the deficit over the long term.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: shakta]
#1708501 - 07/12/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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The 80s were a great time for this country.
Uhh..ok. I was only six or seven when the 80's ended,and I still know they sucked. Did you happen to do a lot of coke during this "go,go" peroid? Maybe this effected your interpretation of that decade. Even music sucks balls in the 80's.
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Social programs, and aid to everyone on the planet.
Yes,the Republicans are well known for their support of social programs. I dunno,maybe this spending has something to do with hugest defense budget in history?
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: monoamine]
#1708508 - 07/12/03 01:13 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dunno,maybe this spending has something to do with hugest defense budget in history?
It has more to do with giving money taken from those who have earned it, and giving it to fuckwads who have not.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: monoamine]
#1708510 - 07/12/03 01:13 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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What the fuck does music or coke have to do with the economy in the 80s? Also, the Dems and libs are the ones so fond of social programs. Get a clue.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: shakta]
#1708515 - 07/12/03 01:18 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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The point of this thread is "fuck you for not paying your bills", and I wholeheartedly agree with that statement. If a tax cut is necessary for the economy to improve (which is debatable) then a spending decrease is also in order (which it sounds like you agree with). Bush (and/or Congress) isn't doing that.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1708528 - 07/12/03 01:25 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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It has more to do with giving money taken from those who have earned it, and giving it to fuckwads who have not.
Then why does the defense budget account for like 50% of the federal budget? Social programs are tiny in comparison.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: shakta]
#1708531 - 07/12/03 01:26 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also, the Dems and libs are the ones so fond of social programs. Get a clue.
I was being sarcastic.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: monoamine]
#1708574 - 07/12/03 01:50 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Then why does the defense budget account for like 50% of the federal budget? Social programs are tiny in comparison.
Wrong again slap happy.
Go here. It doesn't matter what amount you enter, the percentages remain the same.
Military 26%. Social Programs 35%.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1708647 - 07/12/03 02:21 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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well that and a large chunk of baby boomers started to retire.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1708660 - 07/12/03 02:26 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've seen numerous figures that contradict that. Does that take into account corporate welfare given to private companies in the defense industry? And yes, I do masturbate quite frequently.As a matter of fact,I jerk to your posts.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: monoamine]
#1708741 - 07/12/03 02:50 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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"And I suppose this money's gonna just appear out of nowhere? Someone has to pay for all this spending that Bush is doing right now, and that somebody is me and my generation. "
Yup.
I'm 22 and super pissed about this shit and social security too.
What I don't understand is how these right wing fucks can call themselves capitalist and then distribute money that they don't have to the nations top 5% wealthiest people.
Where do they get the money? The print it. and every time they do, every dollar in circulation is worth less. Its called "inflation", and its caused by government overspending.
When the democrats overspend, they do it on services and social welfare. When the republicans overspend, they give billions to themselves and their buddies and generally make it harder for everyone else to survive. Not to mention the amount they spend on weapons...
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: silversoul7]
#1708751 - 07/12/03 02:54 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe the original post should be changed as follows: Attention supporters of Bush's tax cuts: If you support Bush's tax cuts and at the same time you don't attack his spending habits, FUCK YOU! You selfish bastards! You think I should support these tax cuts because they benifit you?! My generation's gonna have to pay for it, asshole! Thanks a lot! If welfare is theft, then you're robbing me blind, just for your own benefit, so fuck you!
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Cornholio]
#1709082 - 07/12/03 04:56 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes. Thank you for the correction.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: silversoul7]
#1709135 - 07/12/03 05:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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We need a balanced budget amendment (IMHO). I realize the argument against it is that we should have the flexibility to tax less when the economy is down. But how about this solution?: When the economy is down you only have to pay interest on the national debt, and when it is good you have to pay interest plus principle. That would give Government the flexibility it needed to deal with down economies, and it would force Government to reduce spending and/or tax appropriately.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Cornholio]
#1709730 - 07/12/03 07:58 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cornholio wrote: We need a balanced budget amendment (IMHO)
yeah well, when Clinton was in office all you heard was the republicans bitching about "democrat overspending" and they demanded a balanced budget amendment to curtail it. The only reason they couldn't get it passed (according to the repubs) was because those aweful demos had control of all the branches.
Well, now republicans control everything and I haven't heard shit about a balanced budget amendment to curtail govt spending.
I guess they conviniently changed their minds...
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: DoctorJ]
#1709849 - 07/12/03 08:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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DoctorJ said:
Cornholio wrote: We need a balanced budget amendment (IMHO)
yeah well, when Clinton was in office all you heard was the republicans bitching about "democrat overspending" and they demanded a balanced budget amendment to curtail it. The only reason they couldn't get it passed (according to the repubs) was because those aweful demos had control of all the branches.
Well, now republicans control everything and I haven't heard shit about a balanced budget amendment to curtail govt spending.
I guess they conviniently changed their minds...
Ya, I think the Republicans have historically been the ones to push for the balanced budget amendment. It would be a lot more important now that there is a huge deficit again.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: DoctorJ]
#1709885 - 07/12/03 08:56 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here is what i'm pissed about.Me and my poor Brethren(and Sistern)has paid into this corrupt system for a very long time.All that i have paid in, has been given to a boss, who has never sweated a day in his life.Now Bush and his compatriots decide we should cut 1.5 overtime to make America more competitive in the marketplace.Pardon me i digress. "Our father who art in heaven,why has not geo's head fell off.I thought we had a deal."
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#1709917 - 07/12/03 09:07 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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here.
I wonder how much of that is the drug war.
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: shroomophile]
#1710995 - 07/13/03 08:20 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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shroomophile writes: Now Bush and his compatriots decide we should cut 1.5 overtime to make America more competitive in the marketplace. You might want to check out http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1706625&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 pinky
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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: shroomophile]
#1711380 - 07/13/03 12:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Now Bush and his compatriots decide we should cut 1.5 overtime to make America more competitive in the marketplace "more competitive" is doublespeak for "give the boss more and the workers less". Corporate directors award themselves stratospheric pay rises while driving down wages for everyone else. Check out the enormous difference in the percentage pay rises these scumbags award themselves compared to what the workers get. They want competition - just for the people below them, never for themselves.
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