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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: silversoul7]
    #1708250 - 07/12/03 10:36 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

wow if you had any idea how finance works you would realize that by implementing these cuts it actually helps the poor.

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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
    #1708267 - 07/12/03 10:47 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I just think it's totally awsome,ya know,trading in my civil rights for a "a new DVD player,or possibly a new wardrobe...".


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Cornholio]
    #1708272 - 07/12/03 10:51 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I just exlained it above. Lowering taxes gives the economy a boost, which means more money for everyone. This greater amount of money, means more taxes rolling in, even though tax rates are lower.

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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: shakta]
    #1708318 - 07/12/03 11:15 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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shakta said:
I just exlained it above. Lowering taxes gives the economy a boost, which means more money for everyone. This greater amount of money, means more taxes rolling in, even though tax rates are lower.


Gotcha. So we're seeing a "boost" in the economy, and everyone has "more money".


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: shakta]
    #1708376 - 07/12/03 11:52 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Ah, the famous "trickle-down theory," which is just that--a theory, and not a very well-substantiated one at that.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: silversoul7]
    #1708390 - 07/12/03 12:01 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Yes,if this Reagonomic crap is all that great,how come it hasn't worked in the past?


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: monoamine]
    #1708393 - 07/12/03 12:02 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

It not only worked when Reagen did it, it worked for JFK as well.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1708396 - 07/12/03 12:04 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I'm guessing you're going to credit Reagan with the surplus we had under Clinton, even tho Bush Sr. still had a deficit when he was president.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: silversoul7]
    #1708406 - 07/12/03 12:12 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm guessing you're going to credit Reagan with the surplus we had under Clinton, even tho Bush Sr. still had a deficit when he was president.



Actually, no.

Both Bushes have been disapointing in the area of spending.

Clinton? He got lucky since when it came to spending, he was no better.
It just so happened the boom had started (although granted, only slightly) and he rode the wave.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1708407 - 07/12/03 12:13 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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It's an indication of our times and a sad, sad, statement when ME keeping more of MY income somehow becomes robbing YOU.


If Bush is the one spending the money, he should be the one flipping the bill. If he defers payment to future administrations, he is in effect robbing that administration of money that they could have used for other things (including tax cuts!)


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1708415 - 07/12/03 12:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

OK,I'm no expert on JFK policies but his tax cuts were quite a bit different than trickle down Reagonomics. I'm not against tax cuts,just the way they have been handled under the last three Rupublican administrations.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: monoamine]
    #1708423 - 07/12/03 12:19 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Tax cuts are awesome if they come with spending cuts. Otherwise, they're just tax deferments (to be paid at a later time).


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Cornholio]
    #1708428 - 07/12/03 12:21 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Exactly. It's simple, really: If you spend more than you have, you'll only get further into debt.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Cornholio]
    #1708433 - 07/12/03 12:24 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

That's essentially what I was getting at.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: silversoul7]
    #1708443 - 07/12/03 12:32 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Exactly. It's simple, really: If you spend more than you have, you'll only get further into debt.



No shit? Really? Stop The Presses!

Shit man, get on the phone with Bush right now and let him in on this "revelation".


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1708445 - 07/12/03 12:33 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe I will. He doesn't seem to get it yet.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: silversoul7]
    #1708446 - 07/12/03 12:34 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

You're right there. Most politicians don't. Including Bubba.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1708476 - 07/12/03 12:53 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

A surprising number of people don't get it, including many in this forum.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: Cornholio]
    #1708487 - 07/12/03 01:00 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Clinton had nothingto do with the booming economy of the 90's. THat was all Al Gore's doing.

He invented the internet you know.

But seriously, the whole booming 90's economy was mostly because of the internet.


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Re: ATTN: Supporters of Bush's tax cuts [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1708488 - 07/12/03 01:00 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Shit man, get on the phone with Bush right now and let him in on this "revelation".




I wish I could get that fucker on the phone right now and let him get a piece of my "revelations".


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