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I.d. request
    #16166655 - 05/01/12 04:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

went to give a neighbor a cactus today and he gave me this in return.
Can anyone Id it?


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16167428 - 05/01/12 07:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Hold up


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16167448 - 05/01/12 07:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Trichocereus grandiflorus  And no, it's not active...


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Re: I.d. request [Re: Nativenglish]
    #16167636 - 05/01/12 07:47 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I am going to disagree.
I originally said a Parodia/Rebutia/Notocactus group.
Was trying to narrow it down.


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Re: I.d. request [Re: Big L]
    #16169028 - 05/02/12 12:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well it has flower buds maybe it will be easier to figure out when it does flower.


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16352099 - 06/08/12 01:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)



Flowers.
parodia ottonis


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16357160 - 06/09/12 05:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Parodia militaris/Notocactus ottonis.

Dang, where are you from, OP?


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Re: I.d. request [Re: felixhigh]
    #16357223 - 06/09/12 05:24 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

bay area. average low 39 F.

If it produces seed( Im sure it will) hit me up if you want some.

I'll update when seed are ready


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16359065 - 06/10/12 12:12 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I am pretty sure that it's Notocactus Ottonis.:ooo:

I have similar cactus and it makes those rootsuckers from base or from soil near it. Even colour of spines and outlook are kinda similar to my N. Ottonis cactus.


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Re: I.d. request [Re: intelligentlife]
    #16360427 - 06/10/12 10:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

you are all right.
The book I have ("The Cactus Family") doesn't even have notocactus.
I'm not sure what is the correct nomenclature.

Parodia Ottonis (Lehmann) N. P. Taylor 1987
Cactus ottonis Lehmann 1827, Echinocactus ottonis (Lehmann) Link &
Otto 1830, Malacocarpus ottonis (Lehmann) Britton & Rose 1922,
Notocactus ottonis (Lehmann) A. Berger 1929
Echinocactus tenuispinus Link & Otto 1827, Notocactus tenuispinus
(Link & Otto) Herter 1955
Echinocactus arechavaletae Spegazzini 1905, Malacocarpus
arechavaletae (Spegazzini) A. Berger 1929, Notocactus arechavale-
tae (Spegazzini) Herter 1943
Echinocactus ottonis var. uruguayus Arechavaleta 1905, Notocactus
uruguayus (Arechavaleta) Herter 1943
Parodia paraguayensis Spegazzini 1923
Notocactus acutus F. Ritter 1979
Notocactus arechavaletae var. horstii F. Ritter 1979, Parodia ottonis
subsp. horstii (F. Ritter) Hofacker 1998
Notocactus grandiensis S. Bergner 1989, notvalidly published
?Notocactus ruoffii N. Gerloff 1993
Plants solitary at first, later forming clumps. Stems globose,
often tapering toward bases, light or dark green or blue-green,
3-15 cm (1.2-5.9 in) in diameter, with white wool apically.
Ribs 6-16, well defined, rounded or acute. Areoles usually few.
Spines hairlike, straight, curved or twisted. Central spines
1-4, brownish, reddish brown or yellowish, 8-40 mm
(0.3-1.6 in) long. Radial spines 4-15, whitish to yellowish to
brownish, 5-30 mm (0.2-1.2 in) long. Flowers usually yellow,
rarely orange-red, 5-6 cm (2-2 A in) long; floral tubes with
brownish wool and bristles. Fruits ovoid to short cylindrical,
thick walled, dehiscent, 0.9-1.2 cm (0.4-0.5 in) in diameter,
often with large numbers of seeds. Seeds bell shaped, glossyblack, strongly tuberculate. Distribution: northeastern Ar-
gentina, southern Paraguay, Uruguay, and southern Brazil.
Parodia ottonis is a widespread and variable species, ac-
counting for the many names it has received. Two subspecies
are recognized. Subspecies ottonis has stems rarely exceed-
ing 6 cm (2.4 in) in diameter, only 10 ribs, and 3-4 central
spines; it occurs widely in southern Brazil, Uruguay, and Ar-
gentina. Subspecies horstii has stems often to 15 cm (5.9 in)
in diameter, 12-16 ribs, and 1-4 central spines; it occurs in
Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil.


Here is some reading on PARODIA

Parodia
Parodia comprises cacti that are small, mostly globose, freely
producing colorful flowers. Parodia is popular among hob-
byists and consequently has been subdivided into hundreds
of species, many of which clearly are not justified. Anatomi-
cal and morphological studies by Reto Nyffeler and other
European botanists have helped in our understanding of Pa-
rodia and related genera. Nigel Taylor (1989b) and Urs Eggli
and Nyffeler (1998) have concluded that Parodia has been
badly oversplit into numerous genera that cannot be sus-
tained. Eggli and Nyffeler believe that the segregates repre-
sent different lineages derived from the core of Parodia in
the strict sense. Thus the cacti are closely related with the dif-
ferent seed types that characterize the segregates simply rep-
resenting adaptations to dispersal by different means. They
suggest that Parodia should be broadly interpreted to include
Brasilicactus, Brasiliparodia, Eriocactus, Notocactus, and Wig-
ginsia. Unfortunately, these scientific conclusions have upset
many hobbyists, who have argued passionately for contin-
ued recognition of related groups, particularly Notocactus,
as distinct genera. On the other hand, they also believe that
Parodia should perhaps include Blossfeldia and Frailea.
There is a nomenclatural problem regarding Frailea, how-
ever. If Parodia were to include Frailea, then Parodia would
have to be conserved over the older name Frailea, as pro-
posed by Eggli and Nyffeler.
For the time being, the International Cactaceae Systemat-
ics Group has elected to recognize the broadly defined Paro-
dia with 66 species but maintain Blossfeldia and Frailea as
separate. Specialists believe that several of the species should
be subdivided into subspecies, but since few such nomen-
clatural combinations have been made, only a few are in-
cluded in the treatment here. Publications by Tony Mace
(1980) and Walter Weskamp (1992) have summarized the
hobbyists' approach to Notocactus and Parodia, respectively.
Additional valuable contributions have also been made by
Roberto Kiesling and Omar Ferrari (1990), Kiesling (1995),
John Brickwood (1997a,b), Nyffeler (1997a), Andreas Ho-
facker (1998), and Hofacker and Pierre Braun (1998). None-
theless, the huge number of names has created a taxonomic
nightmare that will be difficult to straighten out.
Parodia (type, Echinocactus microspermus = P. micros-
perma) was described in 1923 by Carlos Spegazzini to replace
the illegitimate name Hickenia, used by Nathaniel Britton
and Joseph Rose in 1922. The name Parodia honors Do-
mingo Parodi, an early student of the flora of Paraguay. Pa-
rodia is low growing, either solitary or clustering, globose to
cylindrical, with ribs or tubercles. Flowers are borne subapi-
cally and are open during the day; they tend to be funnel-
form or bell shaped, brightly colored, and bristles and hairs
are often present on the floral tubes and pericarpels. The
seeds are diverse, a feature that has led many to argue for the
recognition of several genera. Some possess a strophiole or
caruncle, terms often used synonymously though their de-
velopment is different (Buxbaum 1950,202). The latter term
probably is most appropriate for Parodia.
Parodia Spegazzini 1923
Malacocarpus Salm-Dyck 1850, illegitimate name, not F. E. L Fischer
& C. A. Meyer 1843 (Rutaceae)
Echinocactus subg. Notocactus K. Schumann 1898, Notocactus
(K. Schumann) Fric 1928
Brasilicactus Backeberg 1942
Eriocactus Backeberg 1942
Wigginsia D. M. Porter 1964
Brasiliparodia F. Ritter 1979
Subfamily Cactoideae, tribe Notocacteae. Plants solitary or clus-
tering, low growing. Stems fairly small, globose to short cylindrical.
Ribs present, somewhat tuberculate or completely forming tubercles.
Areoles usually densely woolly when young. Spines few to many, vari-
able. Flowers borne subapically, open during the day, funnelform to
bell shaped, brightly colored; floral tubes and pericarpels often with
hairs and bristles, the latter sometimes restricted to the upper parts of
the tubes. Fruits globose to club shaped to cylindrical, dry or nearly so,
woolly or bristly; thin walled and disintegrating basally or nearly so, or
thick walled and dehiscing laterally, or fleshy and pink. Seeds diverse
in shape, reddish brown to black, small, with large hilum, some with
caruncles, some with spiny or hairlike projections. Distribution: oc-
curring widely throughout eastern South America, mostly east of the
Andes in Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, and Argentina.


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16362333 - 06/10/12 06:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The commonly used term these days is Parodia.


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Re: I.d. request [Re: TriptoniK]
    #16391397 - 06/16/12 06:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

round 2 of flowers



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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16391513 - 06/16/12 07:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Beautiful photos savage :congrats:

Cheers
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Re: I.d. request [Re: GoOnThen]
    #16391575 - 06/16/12 07:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks. it is so hard to capture this yellow on my camera.


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16489784 - 07/06/12 11:29 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)


This cactus is a flowering champion.

It flowered 2 more times but I didn't know where I lost my camera.
I didn't count but it has got to be over 50 flowers already and still more coming.
the fruits looking ready soon.

I might be tripping but I think some of the fruits have gone missing.


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16490248 - 07/06/12 01:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

it must be happy with all those pups and heaps of flowers :thumbup:


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Re: I.d. request [Re: savage.renegade]
    #16493649 - 07/07/12 02:30 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You have very nice specimen! Flowering like crazy :tongue2:

My own notocactus ottonis have only one mainhead and two rootsuckers near the cactus coming up.

It's nice cactus. I have never seen it in the wild but older N. Ottonis makes big colony of heads from its roots and your cactus are just amazing :awesome:

This can spread to very wide area and it seems that there is several N. Ottonis cactus, but these new heads coming from the ground near cactus are same cactus and it forms big colony of heads from its roots. Nice growing style tho:sun:

I just love the way how this cactus spread it self to wide area with rootsuckers coming up to surface from roots! :thumbup:


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Re: I.d. request [Re: intelligentlife]
    #17062887 - 10/19/12 05:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

there were 3 or 4 people that pm me before for seed. can you pm again and I will ship.

unfortunately I didn't pay close attention so most fruits dropped there seed. so seed count is a lot lower than expected.

so I will throw some fresh spachianus seed up if anyone wants.

I have about golf ball size of sticky spachianus seed I need to clean.  Im just going hand wash these with water and screen and dry them up on newspaper. Anybody have a better method?

I am thinking of seperating this cactus and may be willing to trade the smaller rooted suckers.


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