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Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down
    #1706021 - 07/11/03 03:23 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

What a joke, my favourite bit is where they say that prescribing pot is as bad as prescribing heroin. It's nice to know that the government wants to 'protect the public' (especially the terminally ill members of the public) from such a dangerous medicinal drug. From Associated Press, via Kentucky.com:
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Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down
GINA HOLLAND
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration wants the Supreme Court's permission to strip prescription licenses from doctors who recommend marijuana to sick patients.

The administration, which has taken a hard stand against state medical marijuana laws, asked the high court to strike down an appeals court ruling that blocked the punishment, or investigation, of physicians who tell patients they may be helped by the drug.

The administration's appeal, filed this week, gives the Supreme Court a chance to revisit the subject of legalized marijuana. Two years ago, the court ruled that there is no exception in federal drug laws for people to use pot to ease pain from cancer, AIDS or other illnesses. That case also involved a ruling of the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Solicitor General Theodore Olson said the latest 9th Circuit decision keeps the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration from protecting the public. He said the ruling licenses doctors to treat patients with illegal drugs and that physicians who urge patients to use pot are no different than those recommending heroin or LSD.

Medical marijuana laws are on the books in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington.

At issue is a policy, put in place during the Clinton administration, that requires the revocation of federal prescription licenses of doctors who recommend marijuana.

The appeals court said that the policy interferes with free-speech rights of doctors and patients. Physicians should be able to speak candidly with patients without fear of government sanctions, the court said, but they can be punished if they actually help patients obtain the drug.

Graham Boyd, an American Civil Liberties Union attorney representing patients, doctors, and other groups, said a government victory at the high court would gut the medical marijuana laws and hurt doctor-patient relationships.

"This case is about doctors providing honest and accurate medical advice to patients and the government wanting to censor that advice and leave patients to the Internet, their friends and back alley information in order to make medical decisions," Boyd said Friday.

Justices will likely decide this fall whether to review the case.

The case is Walters v. Conant, 03-40.

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Supreme Court case file: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/03-40.htm


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Edame]
    #1706033 - 07/11/03 03:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That's the last straw (actually the last straw happened a long time ago).  Bush needs to GO!  :mad2: 


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Edame]
    #1706039 - 07/11/03 03:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty sad.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1706054 - 07/11/03 03:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Me or the article (or both)? :smile:


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Edame]
    #1706073 - 07/11/03 03:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

What a great guy.

He really cares for the 'Merican people.









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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Edame]
    #1706078 - 07/11/03 03:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Edame said:
Me or the article (or both)? :smile: 



Neither.

The fact that he wants this.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Edame]
    #1706079 - 07/11/03 03:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Unfortunately, most politicians see it just the same.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1706094 - 07/11/03 03:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

What I don't get is that they are basically undermining members of the medical profession. Doctors all swear an oath to help people, and the govt seems to be saying "You'll help people the way we want you to, or not at all". I guess this is nothing new to most of us anyway, it's just so frustrating to hear stuff like this.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Edame]
    #1706174 - 07/11/03 04:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Agreed. Besides the FDA assuring that drugs are pure and safe,the government needs to stay the fuck out of medicine.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1706254 - 07/11/03 04:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck Bush, he's just doing it to look like a bad ass and get relected for it. I doubt the supreme court would allow this for many many reasons. Maybe they'll even say another famous quote that everyone will be posting about next week like 'the government cannot tell people what chemicals they can or cannot use' heh
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rommstein2001 said:
Unfortunately, most politicians see it just the same. 



Of course, who can aford to be the odd ball pot head politician?

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the government needs to stay the fuck out of medicine. 



There alot of things they need to stay out of :mad:


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: DailyPot]
    #1706288 - 07/11/03 04:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Great, I guess Dr. Bush, PhD thinks he's qualified to practice medicine now.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1706416 - 07/11/03 05:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I bet he has a wonderful bedside manner. :smile:  "Don't forget who's boss here! I'll tell you when you've had enough pain, and you can die in agony before I let you smoke pot"


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Edame]
    #1706561 - 07/11/03 06:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Read my sig.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: pattern]
    #1706638 - 07/11/03 07:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That could be shortened to just "Don't vote."


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1706806 - 07/11/03 08:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The sad thing is these people believe in what they are doing, so there is no convincing them. The governments own research teams have recomended it for legalization after finding it casuses no memory loss at all, even with daily smokers for 10 years or more.(That is, no memory loss that extends past the high.)


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Cornholio]
    #1707011 - 07/11/03 09:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Bush needs to GO!




I am not a Bush fan either but maybe you guys didn't see this part.

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At issue is a policy, put in place during the Clinton administration, that requires the revocation of federal prescription licenses of doctors who recommend marijuana.




Bush may be against Ganja but the Democrats are just as fierce if not more so!


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: phreakyzen]
    #1707080 - 07/11/03 10:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It's never a good thing when Republicans and Democrats agree on something.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: phreakyzen]
    #1707745 - 07/12/03 03:11 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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phreakyzen said:
Bush may be against Ganja but the Democrats are just as fierce if not more so!


I do agree that both parties are against drugs (which would explain why the law came about under Clinton), but to say the Dems are as fierce or "more so" against drugs is news to me.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Cornholio]
    #1707763 - 07/12/03 03:26 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Good morning sunshine.


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Re: Bush Wants Marijuana Ruling Struck Down [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1708034 - 07/12/03 09:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Could this be the prelude to the end of the war on drugs? With enough people making a stink about taking medicine out of the mouths of the ill it should be. Add that to Bush's record of telling the truth...


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