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mimosa trees
    #4555657 - 08/19/05 04:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, there are two trees that are Mimosa in my gramma's yard... I have tried doing bark extracts before, but gave up after my yeild was not what i had expected... and I don't believe it was what I was looking for, as i took the bark low off of the tree and not from the roots below ground.

Does anyone know how to describe Mimosa Hostillis to a degree that I know these trees are either Hostillis or not hostillis?
These trees grow seed pods that look like really thin, wide green beans, and they also grow furry looking flowers, pink and white in colour, and they kind of remind me of pompoms because they're puffy/stringy looking. If anyone knows info on this, I thank you for sharing it in advance, as the ethnogens are of great interest to me!

Also if you have any suggestions as to where on the plant to collect bark... like, how far from the tree itself should I dig to get good rootbark, and will this damage the tree's life?

thanks again

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Re: mimosa trees [Re: LipaYai5]
    #4556032 - 08/19/05 06:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Erowid has some identification shtuff.


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Re: mimosa trees [Re: Legoulash]
    #4557676 - 08/20/05 04:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Damn I was afraid you'd say that.

Somehow I feel like I've looked there before, and somehow, I'm not sure that I've seen anything useful as far as identifying those trees... I'll check there again, but I still think they didn't have all the information I was wanting... oh well, I'll see...

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yes... I did find a few things I haven't looked at, they have an interesting page on Jurema, the rituals of drinking root extract by Brazilian tribals. I still do not know for sure if the mimosa I have is Hostilis, but I suppose that if I wanted to play with some root bark, I'd be better off ordering from www.iamshaman.com or someplace!

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Re: mimosa trees [Re: LipaYai5]
    #4566156 - 08/22/05 12:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like silk tree to me (then again I`m no expert). Google silk tree and find a picture.

Pretty sure it doesnt contain any indoles. Dont smoke anything you extracted until your 100 percent on the ID.


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Re: mimosa trees [Re: Chemical_Bliss]
    #4566854 - 08/22/05 05:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, as it turns out, I was a little ignorant on even the tropical zone that Hostilis grows... it couldn't even grow here where I'm at outside, i'd need a greenhouse for hostilis. guess my next extraction will be from commercial rootbark! thanks for humouring my inquiry! ;-P

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Re: mimosa trees [Re: LipaYai5]
    #4583909 - 08/26/05 02:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure where you're from, but in the midwest mainly - desmanthus illinoiensis is an evasive weed, and it takes 3 years untill you can harvest the roots. On the topic of hostillis ((aho)), did you know that a tree from lives on/is found only on this tree? And the frog has 5-meo, but not dmt. Makes you wonder what kind of symbiosis is happening there. Once I was walking and this frog started chirping at me!! and then is stopped when I went a bit further. Weird, not too weird - then I on my way back to the car it chirped at me again - too weird... Could it sense my hightened levels of dmt i wonder?


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Re: mimosa trees [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #4587286 - 08/27/05 02:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Mimosa has pudica which is a whole lot more commonplace then mimosa hostilis. Mimosa pudica is called the sensitive plant. When you touch the thin leaves with water, or simply just brush against them the leaves fold into the branch. Very fast spreading plant, flowers at only 10 inches tall or so. Seeds are very small, easily spread around via wind. Very invasive to Hawaii, but the plant seems oddy strong to non tropical climates as well. I would note the plant must die in the extreme cold temperatures due to it's small structure and thin stem. Don't quote me here, but I don't think it would survive in the 40 degree and below F temperatures.

Mimosa hostilis, the plant most people seek must be rare in seed form. I have recieved supposed mimosa hostilis seeds from various sources (free seed thread and some individual on ebay) both where a sham and they had only sent mimosa pudica or desmanthus illinoiensis. The seeds for mimosa pudica, mimosa hostilis, and desmanthus illinoiensis are exactly the same to the eye. Possibily with a microscope you could identify differences. The colors of each seed are slightly different, yet they are all within a very narrow range of brown to dark brown.


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Re: mimosa trees [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #4587460 - 08/27/05 03:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not sure where you're from, but in the midwest mainly - desmanthus illinoiensis is an evasive weed, and it takes 3 years untill you can harvest the roots. On the topic of hostillis ((aho)), did you know that a tree from lives on/is found only on this tree? And the frog has 5-meo, but not dmt. Makes you wonder what kind of symbiosis is happening there. Once I was walking and this frog started chirping at me!! and then is stopped when I went a bit further. Weird, not too weird - then I on my way back to the car it chirped at me again - too weird... Could it sense my hightened levels of dmt i wonder?



Psilocin is just 4-OH-DMT, iirc... It all goes back to DMT, which is an endogenous drug as well as, uh, exogenous.


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Re: mimosa trees [Re: delta9]
    #4655680 - 09/13/05 05:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hey guys, im working on a mimosa identification guide:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4655668/an/0/page/0

any1 wanna add something id apreciate it.


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Re: identifying mimosa trees [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #17058857 - 10/19/12 01:49 AM (9 years, 13 hours ago)

Just returned from places several thousand miles south, there are many many mimosa species many with great big green bean pods they are the Flamboyant, called Flamboya down south the real deal MT MH has thorns like a rose.

So many not too well informed persons in USA actually think they can just grow a couple trees and they will be self sufficient.

LAL not even it takes many MANY hard hours of digging several trees to get anything significant so unless you have several acres of them forget about it!


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Re: mimosa trees [Re: LipaYai5]
    #17058882 - 10/19/12 01:54 AM (9 years, 13 hours ago)

Sounds like the ornamental Mimosa Pudica.

One should be really careful extracting from various mimosa trees as some contain known toxins in them in example we have the Acacia Rigidula it contains the same thing as fake red death ecstacy PMA which makes you overheat and your brain cooks.

Japanese did not invent amphetamines first however this tree did.


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