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Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology?
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Or Greek mythology, basically any ancient polytheistic mythologies like that.
I knew this guy once that was into Viking Metal, and he claimed to be a "Pagan" that believed in Odin and all of that, but it seemed pretty obvious that he was just pursuing a certain style, and wasn't genuine in his convictions.
I would guess that that kind of mythology quickly became irrelevant outside of the medieval tribe war culture.
But what be the answer to my question?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#17046266 - 10/17/12 01:04 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude this is a mushroom website, someone here is bound to know some serious shit about paganism.
edit: but not me. but i do believe in pan and the mother goddess
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#17046268 - 10/17/12 01:04 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Naw, but I consider my connection to those ancestors pretty significant, especially when it comes to psychedelic mushrooms.
I like the way they tripped and went onto war. Or at least they would work themselves up into a trip. I can relate to that, but I also want nothing to do with the raping and pillaging. The realities of that kinda suck.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#17046269 - 10/17/12 01:05 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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jack_straw2208 said: dude this is a mushroom website, someone here is bound to know some serious shit about paganism.
edit: but not me. but i do believe in pan and the mother goddess
Then let them speak.
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moonrockmushy said: Naw, but I consider my connection to those ancestors pretty significant, especially when it comes to psychedelic mushrooms.
I like the way they tripped and went onto war. Or at least they would work themselves up into a trip. I can relate to that, but I also want nothing to do with the raping and pillaging. The realities of that kinda suck.
Pagans used mushrooms?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: Naw, but I consider my connection to those ancestors pretty significant, especially when it comes to psychedelic mushrooms.
I like the way they tripped and went onto war. Or at least they would work themselves up into a trip. I can relate to that, but I also want nothing to do with the raping and pillaging. The realities of that kinda suck.
i've been told the mushrooms-to-go-berserk thing turned out to be a myth. but they did have shamans who would eat fly agaric mushrooms for guidance and probably for fun to some extent
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Yeah, or at least that is a fairly common intpretation of history. Vikings would eat mushrooms to psych themselves up for war. I assume the folks at stonehenge were munching liberty caps fall festival
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#17046277 - 10/17/12 01:07 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol how the fuck could someone go to war on mushrooms?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#17046284 - 10/17/12 01:10 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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You have no idea how I trip. It makes me an animal.
How can you go to war without tripping?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: jack_straw2208]
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moonrockmushy said: Naw, but I consider my connection to those ancestors pretty significant, especially when it comes to psychedelic mushrooms.
I like the way they tripped and went onto war. Or at least they would work themselves up into a trip. I can relate to that, but I also want nothing to do with the raping and pillaging. The realities of that kinda suck.
i've been told the mushrooms-to-go-berserk thing turned out to be a myth. but they did have shamans who would eat fly agaric mushrooms for guidance and probably for fun to some extent
I would like a source on this
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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Yeah I'll concede to that.
But I cannot imagine one going to war on Psilocybin mushrooms.
Tripping on PCP, more specifically, perhaps.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#17046299 - 10/17/12 01:16 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would only do mushrooms, and only a bit. It makes things sharp and surreal in a way that seems suitable for war, at least in low doses.
That said I'd prefer to avoid war, it makes for a mindfuck in the end. I'd rather live to be a happy tripping old man.
But yeah, I'll put some faith in their extreme arcetypes for humans.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#17046303 - 10/17/12 01:19 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I'll concede to that.
But I cannot imagine one going to war on Psilocybin mushrooms.
The legend is that Norse berserkers took Amanita mushrooms before battle, not Psilocybe. 
Also you have to wonder what happens to all these long-forgotten deities... is Loki somewhere out there lurking in the hearts of the few true believers still left to remember his name?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: deCypher]
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i once saw a man in a tram who yelled about a big mom in forest and even bigger and powerful sons of her. his fleece was written all over in incorrect english something like norway viking 50000 years 
but my mother is a pagan goes to holy forest and shit. most of estonians think themselves as pagans actually
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: madis503]
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madis503 said: i once saw a man in a tram who yelled about a big mom in forest and even bigger and powerful sons of her. his fleece was written all over in incorrect english something like norway viking 50000 years 
but my mother is a pagan goes to holy forest and shit. most of estonians think themselves as pagans actually
Fuck yeah This dude is living it.
Are you from the country? Does your mother hunt mushrooms?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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y€es I still believe in norse mytholoy and follow the old norse religion (or as near as we understand it to have been). I've been a member of the asatru faith for about 7 or 8 years now. if you have any questions feel free to ask em.
As for the mushrooms leading to berserkerangr that has never been conclusively proven and personally I'm doubtful of the claims. However the use of psychedelic mushrooms for other religious purposes, visions, etc I'm fully in support of.
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The gods are far from forgotten, worlwide there are estimated to be roughly a million or more of us who still follow the old gods. although the worship of loki in particular is somewhat contentious.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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my mother is exactly the person who should trip psychedelics, unfortunately she is against it, she even hasnt been drunk. im trying to convince her to eat shrooms together. and yes im from estonia. i have read that estonians in the coast line were even better vikings than nordic people.. but yeah i have been with those people in these holy forests. for entry you have to step through a gate and knock once on a hanging wood piece above( sry my english) what has a svastika on it. need to be quiet also. most of these hills/forests are forgotten or i mean churches built there long time ago.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: madis503]
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madis503 said: my mother is exactly the person who should trip psychedelics, unfortunately she is against it, she even hasnt been drunk. im trying to convince her to eat shrooms together. and yes im from estonia. i have read that estonians in the coast line were even better vikings than nordic people.. but yeah i have been with those people in these holy forests. for entry you have to step through a gate and knock once on a hanging wood piece above( sry my english) what has a svastika on it. need to be quiet also. most of these hills/forests are forgotten or i mean churches built there long time ago.
Interesting. I'm wary of the racist implications, I would probably piss on a piece of wood with a swastika on it, but I mean no personal offense. I have just always been taught that the swastika is a symbol of hate.
I am investigating some of the long-fallen churches of the native american people in my area, but there are not many left and they never used mushrooms to my knowledge. I have european ancestry but I also feel connected to the people who lived where I live.
Around here it is mostly about lines of stones, standing stones, balance rocks, and maybe small caves.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#17046461 - 10/17/12 02:50 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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madis503 said: my mother is exactly the person who should trip psychedelics, unfortunately she is against it, she even hasnt been drunk. im trying to convince her to eat shrooms together. and yes im from estonia. i have read that estonians in the coast line were even better vikings than nordic people.. but yeah i have been with those people in these holy forests. for entry you have to step through a gate and knock once on a hanging wood piece above( sry my english) what has a svastika on it. need to be quiet also. most of these hills/forests are forgotten or i mean churches built there long time ago.
Interesting. I'm wary of the racist implications, I would probably piss on a piece of wood with a swastika on it, but I mean no personal offense. I have just always been taught that the swastika is a symbol of hate.
I am investigating some of the long-fallen churches of the native american people in my area, but there are not many left and they never used mushrooms to my knowledge. I have european ancestry but I also feel connected to the people who lived where I live.
Around here it is mostly about lines of stones, standing stones, balance rocks, and maybe small caves.
Lol correct me if I'm wrong (which I may be), you seem to show some "pride" you may call it, or fascination with the Viking War culture.
...but your against the Swastika because it's a symbol of hate?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Well, technically I don't have Norse ancestors to my knowledge, but Irish and north German, and I assume they are all intermixed.
Yeah, I totally relate to them as individuals and spiritual beings, but I want nothing to do with Nazis.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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we had vikings on islands and coast line. this place i sometimes visit is inland so i dony know if the svastika is related to vikings or not. its not so plain simple svastika it has more branches..
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: madis503]
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madis503 said: we had vikings on islands and coast line. this place i sometimes visit is inland so i dony know if the svastika is related to vikings or not. its not so plain simple svastika it has more branches..
I totally understand that. I don't really know anything about that culture. Hopi indians use it too and they were not Nazis.

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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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Honestly I fucking hate the fact that the nazi's took one of the most sacred symbols in our religion and twisted it so horribly that we cannot even use it any more for fear of being branded racists... it really doesn't help that some neo-nazi groups have taken to associating with asatru and odinism either.
I say we take back the swastika and to hell with anyone who tries to say otherwise.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
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Good luck. I used to draw it all over my shit in 6th grade because I liked the symbol, but then people set me straight and I was kind of embarrased because I don't want to be tied into that horrible BS.
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Ulfrick said: Honestly I fucking hate the fact that the nazi's took one of the most sacred symbols in our religion and twisted it so horribly that we cannot even use it any more for fear of being branded racists... it really doesn't help that some neo-nazi groups have taken to associating with asatru and odinism either.
I say we take back the swastika and to hell with anyone who tries to say otherwise.
i totally agree with you. the swastika i was talking about is similiar to bali but more complex, i cant remember well. in that religion? we have like fairys and holy trees and sacrifice stones and such.. not exactly gods.and my mother with those people i think do.not believe fairys but try to live by those old believes.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: Good luck. I used to draw it all over my shit in 6th grade because I liked the symbol, but then people set me straight and I was kind of embarrased because I don't want to be tied into that horrible BS.
I don't know why you should feel ashamed or embarrassed, it is the intention behind the symbol that is more important than the symbol itself. take the crucifix for example, you set it up in a church and people have no problem with it, you put one up in a field and light it on fire and its suddenly a big deal. I think the same should be of the swastika. people should not feel ashamed to use the symbol for religious or aesthetic reasons any more than someone would feel shame for using a cross. and just like the cross we need to build awareness that we do not support or endorse the racist fuck tards who would use it inapropriately.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#17046655 - 10/17/12 05:39 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes but its most often a disguise of white supremacy.
Theres Odinism for one, many of its adherents are white supremacists and most of its orders do not allow non-white or mixed people to join.
Ulfrick, Odinist and Asatru organizations are absolutely OVERFLOWING with white supremacists. You may be in good circles but most of it is thinly veiled racist crud, at least here in Europe.
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The term Odinism was coined by Orestes Brownson in his 1848 Letter to Protestants.[42] The term was re-introduced in the late 1930s by Alexander Rud Mills in Australia with his First Anglecyn Church of Odin and his book The Call of Our Ancient Nordic Religion.[43] In the 1960s and early 1970s, Else Christensen's Odinist Study Group and later the Odinist Fellowship brought the term into usage in North America. In the UK, Odinic Rite has specifically identified themselves as "Odinists" since the 1970s, and is the largest group to do so.
Although one Odinist group, the Odin Brotherhood, is neither racist nor folkish,[44] the term "Odinism" is sometimes associated with racialist Nordic ideology, as opposed to "Asatru" which may or may not refer to racialist or "folkish" ideals. As defined by Goodrick-Clarke (2002), Nordic racial paganism is synonymous with the Odinist movement (including some who identify as Wotanist). He describes it as a "spiritual rediscovery of the Aryan ancestral gods...intended to embed the white races in a sacred worldview that supports their tribal feeling", and expressed in "imaginative forms of ritual magic and ceremonial forms of fraternal fellowship".[45]
Odinists are "hard polytheists", and they believe that the gods and goddesses are real beings with distinct personalities.[46] In the words of the Odinist Fellowship, "Odinism is a polytheistic religion. We believe in and honour the life-giving and bountiful gods and goddesses of the Odinic pantheon, whom we refer to collectively as the High Gods of Asgarth, or as the Æsir and Vanir. Our gods are true gods, divine, living, spiritual entities, endowed with power and intelligence, able and willing to intervene in the course of Nature and of human lives. It behoves us to seek their goodwill and succour through prayer and sacrifice. But the gods do not require us to abase and humble ourselves; they do not seek to make of us craven slaves. Odinists therefore do not bow or kneel or kow-tow to the gods, but address them proudly like free, upstanding men and women. Odinists regard our gods, not as our masters, but as firm friends and powerful allies."[47]
In more recent times, the Odinist community in Australia has endorsed the "Melbourne Creed" of Odinism, which is a 9-point statement of belief, "An Odinist Creed."[48]
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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I know a stripper who claims to believe in Odin and all that shit. She's a silly bitch though.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: blewmeanie]
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Is she the one in your signature?
Oh nvm, she answered that one already
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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I knew this guy once that was into Viking Metal, and he claimed to be a "Pagan" that believed in Odin and all of that, but it seemed pretty obvious that he was just pursuing a certain style, and wasn't genuine in his convictions.
I would guess that that kind of mythology quickly became irrelevant outside of the medieval tribe war culture.
But what be the answer to my question?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Salomon]
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Yeah, it's pretty silly. Especially when they have to throw all the macho metal bullshit in there, because the vikings were all totally badass tough guys yo.
But hey, everyone has their stupid shit to believe in to make their world a bit more straight. I'm certainly no different (I just have better taste).
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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Yeah, I totally relate to them as individuals and spiritual beings, but I want nothing to do with Nazis.
its not a swastica, that symbol has been around for thousands and thousands of years before hitler was ever even born dude.
they called it a manji in the first legend of zelda
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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I'm agnostic and don't really adhere to any religion, but If I were going to, it would be with a concept like Greek Mythology. God (Zeus) ascended to power by killing Cornus, his Father, in revenge, rather than perpetually being omnipotent. Power amongst the Gods had parliamentary division; Dionysus -God of Wine. Poseidon- God of the Sea. Artemis-Goddess of the Wilderness. Etc. If there was abuse in power they could call upon Zeus to hold council. Every God displayed mortal weaknesses as well. It's more diverse and democratic, I don't like the idea of one God having absolute power, like Saddam Husein and shit.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: jack_straw2208]
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i consider myself to be a pagan and asatru is definitely something that interests me. I wear a thors hammer everyday and i think its shit that racists have perverted such sacred symbols and infiltrated such faiths.I found this article on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81satr%C3%BA_in_the_United_States. Also i hardly know any other people into asatru other than myself. most pagans i know seem to be wiccan.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
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I say we take back the swastika and to hell with anyone who tries to say otherwise.
I'm for this! There was a guy who had an ancient swastica in some tribal type artwork on his arm and some black dude on a bus got all pissed off, and when the guy tried to explain to the dude that he was misinformed, the dude cracked the guy in the jaw right before he got off at his stop, fucked his face up pretty bad.
I didn't know the guy personally, but he was known in the punk scene to definitely be a non-racist guy, the artwork was correct to the period in which it was meant to exhibit, it was not a nazi-swastica.
Me, I wouldn't get any kind of swastica done on my skin for this reason and this reason only... and it really is a shame... Everyone hates nazis and Hitler so much, but why haven't we taken our symbols back?
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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People will say the same thing about Christianity/Muslin faiths a while from now, too.
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There was a guy who had an ancient swastica in some tribal type artwork on his arm and some black dude on a bus got all pissed off, and when the guy tried to explain to the dude that he was misinformed, the dude cracked the guy in the jaw right before he got off at his stop, fucked his face up pretty bad.
Thats what you get for sporting a swastika.
I'm not saying its RIGHT but society is not ready so, that's what you get. You cant force people to "get over it"because you like the symbol. Some less informed guy is going to get offended and clock you in the jaw.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Asante]
#17047358 - 10/17/12 10:10 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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My wife's sister and her sister's husband are some type of pagans, I'm not sure of the details as I don't see them often. I would ask but the husband seems a bit over-eager to convince people to join, which I have zero interest in.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Asante]
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There was a guy who had an ancient swastica in some tribal type artwork on his arm and some black dude on a bus got all pissed off, and when the guy tried to explain to the dude that he was misinformed, the dude cracked the guy in the jaw right before he got off at his stop, fucked his face up pretty bad.
Thats what you get for sporting a swastika.
I'm not saying its RIGHT but society is not ready so, that's what you get. You cant force people to "get over it"because you like the symbol. Some less informed guy is going to get offended and clock you in the jaw.
I agree, that's why I wouldn't wear one.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: EpicDelusion]
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There was a guy who had an ancient swastica in some tribal type artwork on his arm and some black dude on a bus got all pissed off, and when the guy tried to explain to the dude that he was misinformed, the dude cracked the guy in the jaw right before he got off at his stop, fucked his face up pretty bad.
Thats what you get for sporting a swastika.
I'm not saying its RIGHT but society is not ready so, that's what you get. You cant force people to "get over it"because you like the symbol. Some less informed guy is going to get offended and clock you in the jaw.
I agree, that's why I wouldn't wear one.
I've thought about getting a swastika tattoo for the religious connotations but if I was I'd get it somewhere not generally visible to the public, my upper thigh or something, I would know its there the symbolism and meaning would be the same but random black guys are less likely to break my jaw for it, and if they try I can always counter back with. "why where you pulling my pants down in public in the first place?"
Edit: and yeah wiccan seeker unfortunately there IS a branch of the white supremacist movement who have co-opted our symbols and religion, but you will find most of them brand themselves as odinists while most of the non-racialists tend to identify as asatruar. although there is some overlap obviously, you will find that most freeholds and kindreds at least here in canada have ZERO tolerance for racism of any kind.
We pretty much see the neo-nazi's who try and claim our faith the way most people see westboro baptist church in relation to christianity. they may claim to be of the same faith but really they are just fucking insane nut jobs who are using the religion as a mask for their biggotry.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
#17048011 - 10/17/12 12:25 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I worship Ra, the son god of the Egyptians  I bet he's lurking this forum right now as we speak
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#17048847 - 10/17/12 02:31 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP, well, I believe in Greek mythology, or at least I believe that what Homer and Hesiod wrote ...make sense to me, and I can believe it. Moreover, I'm a so called “hard polytheist” ; it means that I believe that the gods are separate, conscious entities in Their own right, rather than merely aspects of a single God/dess, or archetypes inside the human brain, without connections with objective reality...But it's a long (and boring) story...
Anyway I believe that any mythology “make sense” ...at least because it explain many customs and traditions that we follow even without realizing it. I will give you 2 examples:
Some time ago, I was having lunch with a friend of mine (who is from the Philippines). And he asked me: “why the Italians (I am Italian) when they eat meat, they reject and don't eat the fat?We think that it's the most tasty part”. After much reflection, I cannot give a better answer that: “Because in the ancient times, in all Mediterranean area, the fat was the part of the meat which was offered to the gods”.
I live near Florence. In Florence, there is an old statue of a wild boar. And it is an old tradition for the people, touching it and often leaves a coin believing that it will lead wealth, but no one (or at least no one that I know), was able to explain me why this custom or how it was born . Anyway it is a really old tradition to do it.
I believe that the explanation is in the Norse mythology. The Norse god of wealth ( Freyr) ride a wild boar, right? The coins leaves at that statue, are in fact an offer to that god...When the people seen the statue, they remembered -in a vague way - something ( well, a lot of populations whit Germanic roots went here, as the Langobards, or the Ostrogoths ), and acted .....
People do it, (I can give other examples) and believe to be – for example- christians or atheist. But in fact they are wrong: they act as pagans ...Now, it's really so weird to worship consciously the gods who are worshiped unconsciously in many daily actions?
History and mythology, at least, teach us why we do what we do...
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: 245willow19]
#17048858 - 10/17/12 02:33 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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has anyone ever played norse by norsewest? that game was fuckin awesome
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Dork]
#17049173 - 10/17/12 03:30 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Dork]
#17049296 - 10/17/12 03:49 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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consumesomeshrooms said: has anyone ever played norse by norsewest? that game was fuckin awesome
No but now that I look it up I have heard of it, it was by Blizzard who make the warcraft, starcraft and diablo games. Will try to find a copy.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: psi]
#17049795 - 10/17/12 05:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah it's fuckin awesome you switch between three vikings who all have different skills that you need to get through the level and one of the vikings skills is the ability to fart so hard that he floats haha
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: Dork]
#17049835 - 10/17/12 05:28 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I downloaded it and I can't even get past the first scene. This witch says all 3 guys have to come over to her but when I bring them all over she still says that.
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Re: Are there people that still believe in Norse mythology? [Re: psi]
#17049839 - 10/17/12 05:29 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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make sure they're all by the cauldron haha
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