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Cornholio
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: monoamine]
#1705711 - 07/11/03 11:53 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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grandmasterfat said: I don't see how anyone with simple logic skills could defend this war with a straight face.
War always seems to increase a president's approval rating. I'm not sure if it's because people feel obligated to be extra nationalistic during times of war, or if we're a country of war mongrels.
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: Cornholio]
#1705731 - 07/11/03 11:58 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Stick to the topic. This isn't a left-right thing,it's about an unjustified war and fact that the public was lied to. Why (edit:I forgot the comma) is lying a treasured value of the right?
-------------------- People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything... Douglas Adams
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Cornholio
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: monoamine]
#1705746 - 07/11/03 12:03 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Agreed.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: monoamine]
#1705780 - 07/11/03 12:10 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didn't change the topic. I was merely pointing it out.
Believe me, the right feels the left does far more lying. And often when it isn't necessary.
ie: I didn't inhale.
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Sorry, I don't vote Republicrat. They both lie,I never said they didn't.However,lying about smoking a doobie and getting a BJ (things you shouldn't have to lie about) is a little different.
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: monoamine]
#1705804 - 07/11/03 12:17 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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The point of my sentence was that it wasn't necessary to lie about it at all.
Meaning a simple "it's none of your business" would have worked quite nicely.
That applies to the bj as well, and look at all the trouble it would have saved.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Meaning a simple "it's none of your business" would have worked quite nicely.
Edit: Who are you talking about,King George or Klin-ton? Surely you aren't serious? This is a democracy (well,it's supposed to be anyway) last time I checked. King George is supposed to work for me, not his own political and financial agenda. Quote:
That applies to the bj as well, and look at all the trouble it would have saved.
You've never been to court,have you? When you're being questioned in front of a jury you can't exactly say "fuck off,it's none of your beeswax".
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: monoamine]
#1705869 - 07/11/03 12:35 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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You've never been to court,have you? When you're being questioned in front of a jury you can't exactly say "fuck off,it's none of your beeswax".
Court? Been there.
If he hadn't lied there would have been no court. And if there was, a simple "I'll take the 5th" would have sufficed.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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luvdemshrooms said: The point of my sentence was that it wasn't necessary to lie about it at all.
Meaning a simple "it's none of your business" would have worked quite nicely.
That applies to the bj as well, and look at all the trouble it would have saved.
I agree with this 100%. This business was clearly his personal business, and not ours, so why didn't he just say so instead of lying about it.
There is clearly much lying all over the spectrum.
Although I'd like to point out I wouldn't really call Clinton a lefty. He was definitely a centrist. I'm having trouble thinking of a truly liberal liar, but maybe that's because we care more about people than profit.
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: SlapnutRob]
#1705886 - 07/11/03 12:42 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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He was definitely a centrist.
One mans centrist is anothers lying pig leftie.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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luvdemshrooms said: I didn't change the topic. I was merely pointing it out.
Believe me, the right feels the left does far more lying. And often when it isn't necessary.
ie: I didn't inhale.
yeah, at least when the right lies its about important stuf, i.e. war, covering up the state of government envireonmental report (reported this last week where they changed the wording so it wouldn't appear as though global warming were a problem. Not about weed or blowjobs. What losers those lefties are!
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: drfrei]
#1705897 - 07/11/03 12:46 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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So lies from lefties are OK as long as they're about FBI files, billing records, rapes, travel office firings, entering Vince Fosters office, illegal campain contributions and the like?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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monoamine
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One mans centrist is anothers lying pig leftie.
I dunno.It's pretty hard for me to picture Clinton drinking Vodka while wearing a Che Guevara shirt and reading Das Kapital.
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: monoamine]
#1705912 - 07/11/03 12:52 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can picture the shirt and the vodka, but reading? Porn maybe.
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Porn and vodka definately,but who the hell reads porn?
Hey,I don't like Clinton as much as the next man,but I think it's pretty unfair to call him stupid.Evil,probably.Stupid,no.
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drfrei
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luvdemshrooms said: So lies from lefties are OK as long as they're about FBI files, billing records, rapes, travel office firings, entering Vince Fosters office, illegal campain contributions and the like?
hehe, yeah, they do get a good one off every once in a while, but they still can't match the republicans . . . ahhhh, the good old days of iran contra, watergate, more banking scandals than you can shake a stick at . . .
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: monoamine]
#1705967 - 07/11/03 01:08 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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since you brought it up do you have a link to a death toll that actually lists the people's names? I have alot of friends over there "policing" I'm curious as to whether their dead or not, if I really really cared I 'd probraly search for something on the internet, but I'm not really really caring yet, just curious, but if you happen to know that, then
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: drfrei]
#1705973 - 07/11/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think Reagan was responsible for the 80's,that's worse than all this shit combined.
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Re: US losses in Iraq [Re: drfrei]
#1705993 - 07/11/03 01:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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but they still can't match the republicans
While I have little doubt that lefties lie more, I also have little doubt you see it the other way.
What say we leave it at that?
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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