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InvisibleDatDaNK420
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Casing...............
    #1703266 - 07/10/03 06:00 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ok well I cased 3 cakes, as seen below. I crumbled the cakes into small chunks and spread them out on the bottom of the container. I didnt have anything to case it with besides verm, so i moistened the verm and nuked it in the microwave. Then spread a 1/4-1/2 inch layer over the crumbled cakes. Well It's been 4 days i believe or 3 not to sure, since I did the casing, I checked it today and took off the foil on top. There is no growth popping through the casing layer. But there is moisture on the sides of the container and the bottom of the foil over the container. Is this bad? This is my first time growing. I am doing 9 cakes in a fruiting chamberand 3 in a casing. Also when should I put the casing container in a fruiting chamber? Thanks for all yall's help. It is must appreciated. I will post pics soon as these fuckers grow.  :laugh:



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Re: Casing............... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1703270 - 07/10/03 06:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

what strain?


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Re: Casing............... [Re: george castanza]
    #1703277 - 07/10/03 06:06 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

EQ, I did 12 jars on June 8th with a 12cc equadorian mycelium syringe, not a spore syringe.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1703287 - 07/10/03 06:09 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Also when should I put the casing container in a fruiting chamber? 



Put the casing into a fruiting environment when the mycelium begins to show evenly in the shallow areas of the casing. Be patient... 3 days is not that long.

That was hard to type. My friend just chased three grams with a few beers and it's starting to kick in.  :loveeyes: :eyemouth: 


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Re: Casing............... [Re: dog]
    #1703299 - 07/10/03 06:11 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ok but is the moisture normal? You answered one of my questions............


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Re: Casing............... [Re: dog]
    #1703302 - 07/10/03 06:12 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

lol is your freind confused about being confused yet dog .....


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Re: Casing............... [Re: FallenShroom]
    #1703305 - 07/10/03 06:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yes you are going to have moisture when you have a sealed wet enviroment it is fine and preferable


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Re: Casing............... [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #1703308 - 07/10/03 06:14 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on what temp your incubating. If it's just room temp then yes, it will take a little longer. If you have a space heater, then just place it on top and set the heater on low. make sure you keep it covered with foil (no light) and you want some co2 in there to help colonization. once you see rhizomorphic growth poking up through the casing layer then begin fruiting conditions. (12 hours light, fresh air, etc...) also make sure that your verm layer is moist, you want to have it as saturated as it will go without turning watery before your first flush.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: soochi]
    #1703328 - 07/10/03 06:21 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Ok well i opened it up twice to see what was kicking up in there. SO i'm gonna leave it closed from now on, and I am storing it at room temp.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: soochi]
    #1703334 - 07/10/03 06:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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soochi said:
Depends on what temp your incubating. If it's just room temp then yes, it will take a little longer. If you have a space heater, then just place it on top and set the heater on low. make sure you keep it covered with foil (no light) and you want some co2 in there to help colonization. once you see rhizomorphic growth poking up through the casing layer then begin fruiting conditions. (12 hours light, fresh air, etc...) also make sure that your verm layer is moist, you want to have it as saturated as it will go without turning watery before your first flush.




12 hours of light? I thought it only needed a couple a day.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: LostMetropolis]
    #1703342 - 07/10/03 06:26 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yes 12 hours or even more to induce pinning once fruiting light is merely a directional device


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Re: Casing............... [Re: FallenShroom]
    #1703380 - 07/10/03 06:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

disagree.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: shirley knott]
    #1703399 - 07/10/03 06:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

cool state your disagreement i find once pinning has started light really has no benefits besides hey shrooms grow this way specially 12 hours of light ?
plus on another note i feel mushrooms do there best growing spurts in the dark....


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Re: Casing............... [Re: FallenShroom]
    #1703406 - 07/10/03 06:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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yes 12 hours or even more to induce pinning


this bit. afew minutes a day is enough to pin.

the other bit, i'm all with you.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: shirley knott]
    #1703411 - 07/10/03 06:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ahh with large casing lets just say 18 gallon i feel i like to induce pinning very heavy with light and humidity to tell them fuckers it's time stop eating my casing layer and fruit


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Re: Casing............... [Re: FallenShroom]
    #1703417 - 07/10/03 06:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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12 hours or even more to induce pinning



Not in my friends experience. His BRF jars usually pinned invitro, with no more light, for no longer a period of time, than it takes to check a jar.

It's getting more difficult to type past the prismatic patterns on my fingers.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: FallenShroom]
    #1703419 - 07/10/03 06:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

heh heh heh. YOUR casing layer? that's their breakfast!


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Re: Casing............... [Re: shirley knott]
    #1703437 - 07/10/03 06:56 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yes i know but if you dont give it light as it starts to poke through you will end with a case of over lay wich will still fruit but not as well once i patch and get it nice and even i start my light wich gives my foaf the most even pinset with dung straw hes done both ways but for the best pinset he will stay with this method


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Re: Casing............... [Re: shirley knott]
    #1703492 - 07/10/03 07:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

True mushrooms only need a milisecond of light according to stamets (a flick of a flashlight) but realistically, especially when trying to pin, it is best advised to give it a decent amount of light a day. I usually keep it on all day then turn it off at night before I go to bed.


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Re: Casing............... [Re: soochi]
    #1703563 - 07/10/03 07:36 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

thanks soochi i was getting teamed up on by shirley knott and dog lol


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