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OfflineKenny Bus
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is it possible to...
    #1700723 - 07/09/03 09:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

OD on shrooms?


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Kenny Bus]
    #1700734 - 07/09/03 09:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Over dose? Forsure...freak out, possibly hurt yourself psychologically or physically. Die...probalby not.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Kenny Bus]
    #1700762 - 07/09/03 10:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You can, but that requires eating more than your body weight in shrooms. So it would be pretty hard to accidentally overdose.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Kenny Bus]
    #1700767 - 07/09/03 10:09 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You'd have to really try...


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #1700873 - 07/09/03 10:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Of course you can OD on shrooms; they're toxic...it's the poison that makes you trip.  But the actual amount of shrooms you'd have to eat in order to reach that toxicity is enormous.  And since most people don't spike over the 10 gram level...you have nothing to fear but the trip itself.  :wink:

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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Boppity604]
    #1701038 - 07/10/03 12:00 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Over dosing is very possible, can easily happen, especially w/ fresh shrooms. You'll end up tripping harder than you planned. But over dosing where you're in physical danger is nearly impossible. You would have to for some reason eat several pounds of shrooms and have a disorder where you cant throw up...you would also have to eat quickly before you start tripping and passout.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1701369 - 07/10/03 01:34 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

its not poison and there not toxic. its the chemicals baeocystin, psilocybin, and psilocin that cause the reactions in your brain. I just want to clear this up.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Boppity604]
    #1701623 - 07/10/03 03:40 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Of course you can OD on shrooms; they're toxic...it's the poison that makes you trip.



I hope you're joking, because if you're nott then you must be very stupid. Shrooms are basically non-toxic.

Shrooms make you trip because psilocybin is structurally very similar to the neurotransmitter serotonin, so it alters your neurochemistry.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: zeta]
    #1701677 - 07/10/03 04:24 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

>Shrooms are basically non-toxic.

Feed your rabbit an ounce and then look what happens. I?m curious if you then still claim they are non toxic.

EVERYTHING can be toxic, the dose makes the poison ( in most cases ).


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Anno]
    #1701780 - 07/10/03 06:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I completely agree. Which is why I think Boppity is stupid for saying "shrooms are toxic"


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: zeta]
    #1701985 - 07/10/03 10:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I herd of a man that died from shroom poisning


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: DEATH666]
    #1702106 - 07/10/03 12:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Anno]
    #1702124 - 07/10/03 12:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I dont understand why they call it a poison. I certainly dont think it is a poison. At least Psilocybin and Psilocin. Of course you will die if you eat a lot. But if you take a lot of asprin you will die. They dont call that a poison. If you eat too much of anyhting you can die. I think the whole poison thing is BS.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1702829 - 07/10/03 03:46 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Mm hmm.. I suppose these mushrooms contain this natural drug just for us humans to eat and TRIP OUT on.

Jeez.
Some people are in denial.
I'm pretty positive it's a poison.. hehe.
May not be very harmful.. but yeah. Maybe if we weren't so evolved! :tongue:


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Brugman]
    #1703718 - 07/10/03 08:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It depends what you think of poison as. It is very possible the tripping chemicals are for defence since most creatures would not enjoy tripping, atleast not enless they were expecting it. Poison is not always highly toxic, there is poison/venom that does other stuff like paralize you.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Brugman]
    #1703789 - 07/10/03 09:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

if you look at the psilocybin molecule, its a DMT molecule with a phosphorus molecule attached. Your body converts this to psilocin, which differs from the naturally produced DMT only by one oxygen atom, allowing it to survive exposure to MAO. Something so closely related to a naturally occuring chemical, which the brain actively transports across the blood brain barrier, I wouldn't consider a poison.


DMT

psilocin (looks almost manufactured in relation to DMT, doesn't it?)


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Noviseer]
    #1704164 - 07/10/03 11:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

There are many toxins that can cross the blood-brain barrier. And many substances the body produces which can be considered toxic in higher amounts. Remeber the body produces DMT but in extremely small amounts. But I agree psilocin and psilocybin should not be considered toxic :mushroom2:


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1704206 - 07/10/03 11:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that not only can DMT cross the blood/brain barrier, it is actively transported, not just through diffusion.


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: Noviseer]
    #1704307 - 07/11/03 12:19 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Noviseer said:
I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that not only can DMT cross the blood/brain barrier, it is actively transported, not just through diffusion.



I have no knowledge of this but I never really looked into it...


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Re: is it possible to... [Re: DailyPot]
    #1706193 - 07/11/03 04:29 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The active chemicles of magick mushrooms are Psilocybin and Psilocin these are not toxic. These substances are also very simular to the chemical neurotransmitter in the brain like seratonin. Theses substances are also receptor site specific which mean they bind to specific part of the brain like a lock and key function.

There is also no recorded death on overdose of any of these substances. Water is can be called more of a poison that shrooms, because it only takes 12 pints in 1 hour to die.
So shrooms are non-toxic simple as that.


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