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OfflineVIgnisFatuusI
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Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning???
    #1699522 - 07/09/03 12:13 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

What are some of the methods of eliminating c02 without fanning that worked for you guys? I'm worried that I won't be able to commit to the schedule of 4x per day fanning. My friend's using the perlite method of humidification but wants to eliminate the manual fanning process. Are there air filters of some sort that can be purchased that would cleanse the air w/o decreasing the humidity???? Thanks!

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: VIgnisFatuusI]
    #1699530 - 07/09/03 12:17 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Get an air pump of some kind. you can get them at the fish section of a pet store. you can attach a hose to it of some kind and then feed it into your fruiting chamber. Make sure you find a way for the air to get out though. There is a good description avalable. You just cut out holes on the top and put coffee filters over them. That way air can get out and contaminants dont get in :smile:

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: VIgnisFatuusI]
    #1699531 - 07/09/03 12:17 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

try 2x a day.


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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: soochi]
    #1699565 - 07/09/03 12:32 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

CO2 isn't always bad.  Its actually helpful in the formation of pins. 

But to answer your question, get a small computer fan from Radio Shack as seen here - http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F011%5F002%5F007%5F001&Page=1

They're $20.  Then simply splice an extension cord and connect the red wires together to the black wires together :smile:  Put that on a timer and POOF!  Thats it :smile:

PM me if you need more details.

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: Lana]
    #1699595 - 07/09/03 12:43 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

whoa, are you suggesting putting 120v into that computer fan? My dog has one running off a 9v power adapter right now

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: e7c]
    #1699629 - 07/09/03 12:53 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

The type of fan I saw at radio shack was a 12v fan. I have no idea how to hook these bad boys up. I know in a glove box tek I read the other day it said you need a 12v power supply. What's a 12v power supply and will I need a certain 'know how' to hook it all up?

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: VIgnisFatuusI]
    #1699660 - 07/09/03 01:03 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

if you got the dough to blow get an amphibious rebreather. its what the navy seals use and it just recycles the air and extracts the co2 and creates fresh o2. but then again you might need to use fans to act as an artifical lung to get the air circulating...

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: VIgnisFatuusI]
    #1699670 - 07/09/03 01:05 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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The type of fan I saw at radio shack was a 12v fan.




Don't complicate your life with a computer fan + wires + power supply. Get a $5 aquarium pump, stick the hose in your fruiting chamber, and drill a hole near the bottom for the CO2 to escape. You should still fan as often as you can, but the air pump will help when you can't.

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: NapkinOfDoom]
    #1699679 - 07/09/03 01:07 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

The Water pump idea sounds good but do you run it all the time? and wouldn't that get rid of the humidity, or am i wrong?


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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: SMAGE]
    #1699689 - 07/09/03 01:08 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

The perlite will usually have no trouble keeping up the humidity with a small air pump.

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: SMAGE]
    #1699695 - 07/09/03 01:10 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Diploid, since there's an open hole in the tank, will this allow for humidity to escape out of the terrarium and into the room? Also, if I were to use your method, how does this help eliminate cO2 exactly? I'm curious and I'd like to use your method if it cuts down on complexity and cost.

Also, which type of terrarium should I use since I need to cut a hole? If I was considering using a glass fish tank, would this no longer be an option since a hole now needs to be cut into the terrarium? What would be a better type of terrarium to use then?

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: VIgnisFatuusI]
    #1699702 - 07/09/03 01:14 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

you know you could probably just hook up a computer fan to the little hole on the tank and run it for 10 minutes at a time every 20 minutes....the 20 minutes of idle time is plenty of time to get a humidifier going...this would create a nice flow and keep the air fresh

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: NapkinOfDoom]
    #1699721 - 07/09/03 01:18 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

ok lets say your growing bulk... with a mixture of shit and straw.. would u need perlite on the bottom.. or would the humidity from the shit and straw be enough with the air pump...


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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: VIgnisFatuusI]
    #1699822 - 07/09/03 01:47 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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Diploid, since there's an open hole in the tank, will this allow for humidity to escape out of the terrarium and into the room? Also, if I were to use your method, how does this help eliminate cO2 exactly?





You just need a small hole; 1/2 inch or so is plenty. CO2 is heavier than air and will tend to settle. The tiny amount of air from the pump coming in at the top will not significantly lower the humidity and typically will not disturb the CO2 stratification either. So, it'll add fresh air and push CO2 out the bottom, all without drying things out. Don't forget to still fan whenever you can to augment the pump.

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Also, which type of terrarium should I use since I need to cut a hole?




Don't cut, drill. About 1/2 inch is plenty.

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If I was considering using a glass fish tank, would this no longer be an option since a hole now needs to be cut into the terrarium? What would be a better type of terrarium to use then?





Any transparent/translucent tupperware kinda thing with a good lid will work fine.

Good luck!

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: Diploid]
    #1699852 - 07/09/03 01:59 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

what if you tape up the back of a fan and only let a small section exposed. then attach a hose to that section so when you turn the fan on it will suck air through the hose. then you can put this hose at the bottom of the tank, thus sucking out the CO2 on the bottom of the tank while fresh air is being pumped in through the top.

any comments? i just thought of this. this will eliminate the need for a hole.

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: Diploid]
    #1699867 - 07/09/03 02:04 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, this is where I'm getting confused. 1) The perlite provides the humidity. 2) The air pump provides???? 3) The fan provides??? I'm assuming the air pump simply provides for better air exchange and more 02 and the fan eliminates cO2, correct? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Methods of eliminating cO2 without fanning??? [Re: VIgnisFatuusI]
    #1699877 - 07/09/03 02:07 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

pretty much. if you have a pump you dont really need a fan. they are kind of the same thing

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