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Re: The Problem With Omnipotence [Re: Mr.Al]
#16967382 - 10/04/12 06:40 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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If Created Beings did not experience suffering in some measure, they would take Paradise and Enlightenment for granted and fall to Unenlightened status back in Samsara.
More made up crap. Like your crap about shiva, it's wrong.
Do you ever run out of crap to say?
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Re: The Problem With Omnipotence [Re: Diploid]
#16967388 - 10/04/12 06:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Diploid said: Finally, Beefcakemighty is the only one in this thread that "gets it".
The Trilemma is a seminal quandary in philosophy first proposed by Greek philosopher Epicurus. It touches on ethics, law, censorship, epistemology, even economics.
1 if God is unable to prevent suffering, he is not omnipotent. 2 if God is able but not willing to prevent suffering, he is not good. 3 if God is willing and able to prevent suffering, then why is there suffering?
Don't you know anything dude? The devil fell from heaven and created sin which caused suffering. It's common knowledge. There's only room for one omnipotent being in this town.
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Re: The Problem With Omnipotence [Re: Grapefruit]
#16967411 - 10/04/12 06:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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The devil fell from heaven and created sin which caused suffering.
Then god's a pathetic weakling. I think I'll worship the devil. At least he's honest. He'll fuck you over but you'll know it's coming.
God fucks you over too but he lies and tell you that the loves you as he shoves it in.
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Re: The Problem With Omnipotence [Re: Diploid]
#16967467 - 10/04/12 06:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think I'll worship the devil.
I've been waiting for you to come to your senses.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: The Problem With Omnipotence [Re: Icelander]
#16967508 - 10/04/12 07:00 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you not noticed that people who have been through some difficult life experiences appreciate things?
Compare that to the son or daughter of say, a wealthy banker or politician. Does the trust fund baby appreciate anything? No. You could give him a Porsche for his birthday and he will complain it isn't a Lamborghini.
Reexamining Suffering Itself: Let's say someone is a chubby fellow, or real skinny, and he goes to Joe Weider for advice.
Joe Weider gives him diet advice and a tailored exercise plan so that jerk at the beach will stop kicking sand in his face and he might actually get laid with some niceness at the beach.
If he follows Joe Weider's advice and puts himself through the grueling and PAINFUL exercise regimen he gains self confidence and now he has a hot girlfriend.
No pain, no gain. Is that not a concrete example of how a person can gain through suffering?
I say that suffering builds Character, most people would find some Truth in this.
The best answer I have for Diploids Question is that God chooses not to violate Free Will. That means that people hurt each other from time to time. Eventually they learn.
Edited by Mr.Al (10/04/12 07:02 PM)
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Re: The Problem With Omnipotence [Re: Mr.Al] 1
#16967513 - 10/04/12 07:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I say that suffering builds Character
I say you say nothing but made up, unsubstantiated bullshit.
-------------------- Republican Values: 1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you. 2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child. 3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer. 4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
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