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What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit?
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Today in my college cafeteria I caught a fleeting glimpse of the news on a TV and there was some bullshit about "Big Bird controversy".  I also think I read an article about it on Yahoo or something.  Somewhere I read an article that asked the reader if they really wanted to elect a President that liked Big Bird.

I saw bits and pieces of the debate last night and personally saw the part where Romney talked about cutting public funding to PBS.

How literally fucking stupid does the media have to be to make such an ASTRONOMICAL deal about something that doesn't even matter?  Are they really this fucking stupid?  Or are they just starving for media material so bad that they are willing to go this far for a story.

This would be like a starving African in the Gobi desert sucking a dick just so they could survive a little longer off of the nutrients in the cum.

Sorry for the gross analogy but that's the way I view this.


Does anyone else really think this way about Mitt Romney's Big Bird analogy - that it was meant literally?


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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I have no clue, didn't see the debate but facebook (god I need to get off gay ass facebook) was overran with the whole big bird topic. That was like the main fucking thing people were focused on.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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The American public (by and large) is stupid. The media makes a living off of that stupidity.

Hence... news for the masses.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
The American public (by and large) is stupid. The media makes a living off of that stupidity.

Hence... news for the masses.


Yeah but this takes it to a whole new level...I mean, it was just a fucking analogy and people are blowing it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of proportion.

What a bunch of fucking morons there are in this world. :facepalm:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Celestial Traveler said:
What a bunch of fucking morons there are in this world. :facepalm:


Occasionally... RARELY... there is a statement made that try as I might... I can't argue with.

This is one of those times.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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i don't even wanna know. all i'll say is stupid is as stupid does. :gump:

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 5
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It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


Good. The feds should not be funding television shows/networks.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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one thing out of many that shouldn't be funded.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 3
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JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


This.  I think this thread is a testament to the failure of the education system.  I shudder to think that it could get worse if funding is cut.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


You do know that government subsidies only account for about 15% of sesame streets fundig right. Don't get your panties in a twist big bird ain't going anywhere. Besides I agree, it's not the governments job to provide us with luxuries. If it was I'd be demanding a gold plated corvette and a plate of caviar spread on my dick by playboy bunnies every night.

Want your kids to get a good education, here's an idea, fucking educate them yourself. Don't rely on some prancing giant bird on the idiot box to do it.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
one thing out of many that shouldn't be funded.


:eek:

I'm always stunned when we agree.

:lol:

Well... not really.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow] * 1
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Ulfrick said:
Want your kids to get a good education, here's an idea, fucking educate them yourself. Don't rely on some prancing giant bird on the idiot box to do it.


quoted for motherfucking truth


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
I shudder to think that it could get worse if funding is cut.


Except one can look at the huge increases in education funding and see no real improvements in the educational system and results.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
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Ulfrick said:
If it was I'd be demanding a gold plated corvette and a plate of caviar spread on my dick by playboy bunnies every night.


What if the bunnies don't like caviar?


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Want your kids to get a good education, here's an idea, fucking educate them yourself. Don't rely on some prancing giant bird on the idiot box to do it.


Surely you aren't advocating personal responsibility?

Oh the horror!


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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What are all these kids doing home watching tv anyway? They should be out working and paying taxes like good Americans.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow] * 2
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Ulfrick said:
Want your kids to get a good education, here's an idea, fucking educate them yourself. Don't rely on some prancing giant bird on the idiot box to do it.


Obviously, unfortunately lots of kids have shitty parents. It's not about the TV show anyway, it's just about the fact that Mitt Romney would cut anything he deems unnecessary, and his opinion is pretty different from what the American public actually wants.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
akira_akuma said:
one thing out of many that shouldn't be funded.


:eek:

I'm always stunned when we agree.

:lol:

Well... not really.


there is only one reason things are so abhorrent in this economy... and that's unheeded spending.

spend on social programs when you're the one doing the spending. no need to have "Big Bird" doing the managing for everyone.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
it's just about the fact that Mitt Romney would cut anything he deems unnecessary, and his opinion is pretty different from what the American public actually wants.


1st. Romney can't just cut whatever he wants. If you believe he can, your knowledge of the system is seriously lacking.

2nd. Seeing as the polls are pretty much even, I'd say he has a grasp of what half the American people want.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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Personally I just found that moment of the debate funny because it harkens back to one of my favorite Toby moments on The West Wing:

Hamlin: [on why the government should cut funding to PBS] Product licensing for this merchandise brings in over $20 million a year, none of which goes to PBS, all of which goes to the show's producer, the Children's Television Workshop. Now this is a company whose chief executive earns high six-figures in salary and benefits per year. Yet Sesame Street is subsidized by taxpayer dollars.
Toby Ziegler: It's a perfectly reasonable complaint.
Sondra: And?
Toby Ziegler: I don't care.
Hamlin: Toby...
Toby Ziegler: We're gonna see to all those things. In the meantime, at a time when the public is rightly concerned about the impact of sex and violence on TV, this administration is gonna protect the MUPPETS! We're gonna protect Wall Street Week, we're gonna protect Live from Lincoln Center, and by God, we are going to protect Miss Julia Child!

So yeah, the people producing Sesame St. got a cushy deal, but that doesn't mean PBS as a whole is raking in the dough. If it weren't creepy and blatantly unconstitutional to require people to watch Frontline I would be all for it, a real news program is worth it's producers' weight in gold these days.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
1st. Romney can't just cut whatever he wants. If you believe he can, your knowledge of the system is seriously lacking.

2nd. Seeing as the polls are pretty much even, I'd say he has a grasp of what half the American people want.


I know that he can't, obviously, but he can still have a say in the direction the country goes and he can push for cuts that he wants. Most of Romney's supporters are people who vote straight Republican. None of his supporters know exactly what cuts he wants anyways because he never really says specifics and he flip flops so much that it's hard to say where he stands on the issues.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


Good. The feds should not be funding television shows/networks.



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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
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I would really argue that up until last night (the first debate) the majority of people even paying attention to the race are die hard partisans and politics junkies so we're still a few days away from seeing polling numbers that really reflect the state of the race (places like Gallup which use a rolling model take a few days to show movement in the numbers).


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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So, because he has a different vision than you, he "doesn't say anything".

It seems you just don't want to hear.

Hopefully, a majority of people do.

Do you realize that the very complaints you make about Romney, are the same type of complaints others make about Obama?

Stop talking as if ALL Americans agree with you.

They don't.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
So, because he has a different vision than you, he "doesn't say anything".

It seems you just don't want to hear.

Hopefully, a majority of people do.

Do you realize that the very complaints you make about Romney, are the same type of complaints others make about Obama?

Stop talking as if ALL Americans agree with you.

They don't.


I know all Americans don't agree with me, I'm sorry if I came off that way but I'm very cognizant of that fact. I'm consistently met with opposition on this site alone when I talk about politics and the people on this site align with other views I have that are very counter to what most of America thinks.

One of my problems is that Romney wont give any specifics as to what he plans to do while Obama definitely does give specifics and we've seen his performance anyway. It's not about Romney having a different vision than me, it's about the fact that he doesn't have a vision. He's been constantly contradicting himself throughout this whole campaign and throughout his entire political career and to stop doing that it seems like he's clammed up, probably at the suggestion of his advisers, and wont spill what he wants to do for our country. In the debate last time he was constantly talking about how he's going to do all the good things that Obama has done and none of the bad but he's not giving a realistic plan for how he will make that work. :shrug:

I don't know why you have to be so combative, I'm just having a discussion.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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lets just keep subsidizing, and stop investing in capital gain!1



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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
luvdemshrooms said:
So, because he has a different vision than you, he "doesn't say anything".

It seems you just don't want to hear.

Hopefully, a majority of people do.

Do you realize that the very complaints you make about Romney, are the same type of complaints others make about Obama?

Stop talking as if ALL Americans agree with you.

They don't.


I know all Americans don't agree with me, I'm sorry if I came off that way but I'm very cognizant of that fact. I'm consistently met with opposition on this site alone when I talk about politics and the people on this site align with other views I have that are very counter to what most of America thinks.


Again... 1/2 of America does NOT agree with your views. Stop telling us what America thinks.


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One of my problems is that Romney wont give any specifics as to what he plans to do while Obama definitely does give specifics and we've seen his performance anyway.


Yes. Obama's plan sucks, and his performance has been pathetically sad.


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It's not about Romney having a different vision than me, it's about the fact that he doesn't have a vision.


You mean you don't like his vision as it's not the same as yours. Half of America seems to like his vision just fine.


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He's been constantly contradicting himself throughout this whole campaign and throughout his entire political career and to stop doing that it seems like he's clammed up, probably at the suggestion of his advisers, and wont spill what he wants to do for our country. In the debate last time he was constantly talking about how he's going to do all the good things that Obama has done and none of the bad but he's not giving a realistic plan for how he will make that work.


Listen more to what he says, not what other people tell you he says.


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I don't know why you have to be so combative, I'm just having a discussion.


Combative? Because I disagree?

:laugh2:

Grow a spine. I'd say grow a pair but your gender icon shows that wouldn't be a good thing.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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He gives specifics, yet did little to nothing the Last 4 years. You must really like smoke being blown up your ass. He can talk all he wants about "plans" his track record shows a completely different story.


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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why people still expect anything serious from the media? :justinwilson:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
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I know all Americans don't agree with me, I'm sorry if I came off that way but I'm very cognizant of that fact. I'm consistently met with opposition on this site alone when I talk about politics and the people on this site align with other views I have that are very counter to what most of America thinks.


Again... 1/2 of America does NOT agree with your views. Stop telling us what America thinks.


Did you read what I said? I said I know America does not agree with me. Less than half of America agrees with all of my views.




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Listen more to what he says, not what other people tell you he says.


I'm basing everything I'm saying on what I have heard directly come out of his mouth.

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Combative? Because I disagree?

:laugh2:

Grow a spine. I'd say grow a pair but your gender icon shows that wouldn't be a good thing.


Combative because you're telling me to grow a spine and you insist upon putting words in my mouth. :rolleyes:



Enjoywho said:
He gives specifics, yet did little to nothing the Last 4 years. You must really like smoke being blown up your ass. He can talk all he wants about "plans" his track record shows a completely different story.


Can you give some concrete examples of how he did little to nothing?


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Enjoywho]
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lets tax corporate dividends, and redistribute amongst municipal subsidies!1


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
luvdemshrooms said:
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I know all Americans don't agree with me, I'm sorry if I came off that way but I'm very cognizant of that fact. I'm consistently met with opposition on this site alone when I talk about politics and the people on this site align with other views I have that are very counter to what most of America thinks.



Did you read what I said? I said I know America does not agree with me. Less than half of America agrees with all of my views.


Yup. I read what you said. Clearly, you don't grasp the meaning of words, so I bolded what you said for you. Read it and weep.


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Combative because you're telling me to grow a spine and you insist upon putting words in my mouth.


They're your words. I didn't make you say them, nor did I put them in your mouth.

Your words show where your thought processes are fucked up.

You want free stuff, you want it now, you don't care who pays for it.

As long as it's not you.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Tax 50% of North America's GDP and send it to this guy!1

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
JoieDeVivre said:
luvdemshrooms said:
I know all Americans don't agree with me, I'm sorry if I came off that way but I'm very cognizant of that fact. I'm consistently met with opposition on this site alone when I talk about politics and the people on this site align with other views I have that are very counter to what most of America thinks.



Did you read what I said? I said I know America does not agree with me. Less than half of America agrees with all of my views.


Yup. I read what you said. Clearly, you don't grasp the meaning of words, so I bolded what you said for you. Read it and weep.


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Combative because you're telling me to grow a spine and you insist upon putting words in my mouth.


They're your words. I didn't make you say them, nor did I put them in your mouth.

Your words show where your thought processes are fucked up.

You want free stuff, you want it now, you don't care who pays for it.

As long as it's not you.


It's not about me wanting free stuff. I have taken on thousands of dollars in loans that I will need to pay back. (which is irrelevant to this thread, but I can tell you feel the need to attack my character) I have literally no money to contribute. When I'm raking in a couple hundred thousand dollars a year I'm going to be donating most of it to my community, charities and scholarship funds. I'm all about giving back. I volunteer instead of working because I'd rather help others than make money.

You said: "Your beliefs aren't what half of America believes."  I basically agreed with you and stated that Americans disagree with me about even more things and you're saying I'm claiming to know what all of America believes? I'm actually just saying that I'm one individual and a nation full of people is going to disagree with me more than they agree with me.

You're trying to entrap me with words and no matter what I say you're going to try to attack me and twist my meaning. People like you make the internet and society as a whole more negative. :thumbdown:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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your giving back won't change anything though. :confused:

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
your giving back won't change anything though. :confused:


My intent is to change lots of things, I don't know what you're referring to exactly. I've already had a positive impact on the people I interacted with during all of my volunteer experiences and most of the little money I do have goes towards good causes such as charities around my town. I'll be giving back so that students like me can afford to go to college and hopefully will be able to allow other students to do the same.


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"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
You're such a fuck.


Ah. So you resort to insults when you don't get your way. 


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I have literally no money to contribute.


Tough shit. Work, save, then go to school. But no, you're content to go on the dime of others.


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When I'm raking in a couple hundred thousand dollars a year I'm going to be donating most of it to my community, charities and scholarship funds. I'm all about giving back. I volunteer instead of working because I'd rather help others than make money.


And when my dick gets bigger, I'm going to be a porn star.


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You're trying to entrap me with words and no matter what I say you're going to try to attack me and twist my meaning.


They're your words. You own them.


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People like you make the internet and society as a whole more negative.


Life sucks when people disagree. Don't like it? Don't play.


EDIT: And then you go back and edit your post.

:laugh2:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (10/04/12 02:29 PM)

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
akira_akuma said:
your giving back won't change anything though. :confused:


My intent is to change lots of things, I don't know what you're referring to exactly. I've already had a positive impact on the people I interacted with during all of my volunteer experiences and most of the little money I do have goes towards good causes such as charities around my town. I'll be giving back so that students like me can afford to go to college and hopefully will be able to allow other students to do the same.


it's small fry. that's exactly why it won't change anything. but it's good for... you, though.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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akira_akuma said:
it's small fry. that's exactly why it won't change anything. but it's good for... you, though.


I do plan to enact more change than just that but first I'll need to establish some credibility for myself, hence getting the degree and becoming an educated professional.




luvdemshrooms said:
Ah. So you resort to insults when you don't get your way. 



It's not about not getting my way, it's about your attitude. I went back and edited it out because it wasn't necessary and it showed a lack of control on my part. I was hoping you wouldn't have seen.


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Tough shit. Work, save, then go to school. But no, you're content to go on the dime of others.


What job could I possibly work without an education or any real skills that would allow me to save enough money for the school I am currently attending and medical school plus my life expenses during the time I'm working and the time I'm in school?


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And when my dick gets bigger, I'm going to be a porn star.


The thing is that that isn't happening but I'm already on the path to achieving what I'm talking about.


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They're your words. You own them.


They're my words and language is inefficient at conveying meaning. One word for me has a totally different connotation for you. That's why you're supposed to pay attention to my general meaning, not my exact word choice.


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Life sucks when people disagree. Don't like it? Don't play.


It's not about our disagreement, I love talking to people with different viewpoints. It's how I learn and grow. New perspectives are what I thrive on. it's when people are assholes for no reason and can't hold an actual discussion that I get frustrated.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
I was hoping you wouldn't have seen.


And yet, there it was.


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What job could I possibly work without an education or any real skills that would allow me to save enough money for the school I am currently attending and medical school plus my life expenses during the time I'm working and the time I'm in school?


I don't care. I don't want you (or anyone else) going to college on the taxpayers dime.


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The thing is that that isn't happening but I'm already on the path to achieving what I'm talking about.


Sure, as long as someone else pays for it.


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They're my words and language is inefficient at conveying meaning. One word for me has a totally different connotation for you. That's why you're supposed to pay attention to my general meaning, not my exact word choice.


If you can't say what you mean, say nothing.


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it's when people don't agree with me, or give me stuff, that I get frustrated.


Fixed that last one for you.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
I don't care. I don't want you (or anyone else) going to college on the taxpayers dime.


It's a good thing that many taxpayers and the government and the candidate who you support don't agree with you then.


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"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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Ah, but as towns, cities, states and the feds slowly go broke trying to provide for the moochers, more are coming to see the light.

Hopefully, in time to cut you off.

Get a job. Pay for school yourself if you want to.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Thats right. I take it up the ass on a daily. It feels great to finally let this out :gay:

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


Sesame Street has turned into a left wing indoctrination show as has most of the other PBS shows. At one point in time, they actually did a fairly good job at being a neutral public broadcasting network, but they have been bought out and overrun with radical leftists. That is why right wingers want to cut funding. What once was a channel for the general public has become a bullhorn for the left wing agenda. They don't even show old Doctor Whos anymore.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Deadkndys420]
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I'd be quite happy to see Big Bird roasted.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Shroomacabra]
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Shroomacabra said:
JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


Sesame Street has turned into a left wing indoctrination show as has most of the other PBS shows. At one point in time, they actually did a fairly good job at being a neutral public broadcasting network, but they have been bought out and overrun with radical leftists. That is why right wingers want to cut funding. What once was a channel for the general public has become a bullhorn for the left wing agenda.


Exactly. Plus, the Feds shouldn't be funding stations/shows under any circumstances.


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They don't even show old Doctor Whos anymore.


Those bastards.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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:rofl:

"When I'm raking in a couple hundred grand"

:rolleyes:

:whatever:


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Enjoywho]
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We all need a dream.

Mine is that my dick streches another inch. mmmmm.... 3 inches. WOOT!

Hey! Maybe the Feds will pay for enlargement surgery.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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The Big Bird thing is like all the other spin going on...

Here are some paraphrased statements

The president was tired
The president had a hard time at 5000ft altitude (Al Gore)
More of the things that this election are about like reproductive rights weren't brought up.
The president didn't strike back with his strong points like the Romney %47
Romney lied.
Romney twisted facts.
The moderator sucked...
'Big Bird'
The president wasn't prepared because he has been busy working on issues
The challenger always gets a bump
Debates don't mean anything

The reality:  The loudest thing that came out of that stagefest was the sound of Obama getting spanked.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
:rofl:

"When I'm raking in a couple hundred grand"

:rolleyes:

:whatever:


It's true and I'm working my ass off right now and I will be for the next decade basically to get to that point. :lol: I'm only bringing it up because it's constantly being brought up that I'm a freeloader or something.


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UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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You condone free loading, whether you are or not is not the issue.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
You condone free loading, whether you are or not is not the issue.


Freeloading is what you call it. I call it helping others get to where you have gotten due to the help of people that came before you. We differ in our fundamental beliefs on this. :shrug:


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"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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help of people that came before who? huh?

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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:shrug:


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Enjoywho]
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there is no escape from confirmation bias.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Celestial Traveler said:
What a bunch of fucking morons there are in this world. :facepalm:


Occasionally... RARELY... there is a statement made that try as I might... I can't argue with.

This is one of those times.


:loveintheair:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
help of people that came before who? huh?


Without all of the people who advanced our society to this point I would not be able to take the path I aim to take in life. I guess I should have actually said "I call it helping others get to where you have gotten due to the help of people that have helped you." Undoubtedly there are many people in my life who have helped me get to where I am and there are many people who will help me to get where I will be. So I feel like I should return the favor by helping others which will hopefully inspire them to help others.


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UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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without those people, we wouldn't have the massive ignorance to what debt we owe to others, in this world. :shrug:

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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:lol:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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:kelsoburn:


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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a two inch masterwork of wubbliness awaits you Celestial.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
a two inch masterwork of wubbliness awaits you Celestial.


Haven't you heard? I'm going to get the Feds to spring for a one inch extension.

Nobody will be laughing then!









Nobody.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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:House2: i'm not laughing, right now.
















:rofl:

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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You pictured it in your mind.

You know you did.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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i pictured a bunch of dinklemeyer's in suits pulling on your dick at once, yes. :insano:

:monopoly: "you wanted an extension, you got it buddy!"

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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I Googled dinklemeyer.

The first result is from a "Wink Dinklemeyer".


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/wink-dinklemeyer/Profile?oid=2579322

he likes posting political rhetoric. he's the perfect dinkle-suit.

(Germans make up words all the time, so yeah, dinklemeyer = massive stick-up-the-ass suit wearing loser)

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow] * 3
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Ulfrick said:
Want your kids to get a good education, here's an idea, fucking educate them yourself. Don't rely on some prancing giant bird on the idiot box to do it.


Are you suggesting that the majority-idiot-populace of America (the theme of this thread) home school their children?  That makes me shudder just thinking about it.

You can relegate Sesame Street to "some prancing giant bird on the idiot box" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it contributes to the development of young minds by creating and reinforcing critical thinking situations in proven models that work to mentally stimulate children in ways that most parents are unable.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said:
Ulfrick said:
Want your kids to get a good education, here's an idea, fucking educate them yourself. Don't rely on some prancing giant bird on the idiot box to do it.


Are you suggesting that the majority-idiot-populace of America (the theme of this thread) home school their children?  That makes me shudder just thinking about it.

You can relegate Sesame Street to "some prancing giant bird on the idiot box" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it contributes to the development of young minds by creating and reinforcing critical thinking situations in proven models that work to mentally stimulate children in ways that most parents are unable.


As has been mentioned PBS has been overrun with radical leftists so it is more like indoctrination than education. Its time for the commies to meet there maker.  :sniper: Or at least lose all funding!


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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What broad generalizations you have.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Blend]
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Why do we need PBS?

Also I wonder, back in the day, before all the taxes, all the government programs, the government putting their hands in everything, deciding this and deciding that--I'm surprised anyone survived the carnage of those days. :smirk:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
a two inch masterwork of wubbliness awaits you Celestial.


I look forward to it.

Hey, it spins.  That's all I care about :douchewink:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Variable speed.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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:lol:

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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abltsandwich said:
Ulfrick said:
Want your kids to get a good education, here's an idea, fucking educate them yourself. Don't rely on some prancing giant bird on the idiot box to do it.


Are you suggesting that the majority-idiot-populace of America (the theme of this thread) home school their children?  That makes me shudder just thinking about it.

You can relegate Sesame Street to "some prancing giant bird on the idiot box" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it contributes to the development of young minds by creating and reinforcing critical thinking situations in proven models that work to mentally stimulate children in ways that most parents are unable.


Yeah I agree with this.

I'm not necessarily saying PBS or Sesame Street deserves public funding.  But I'm tired of hearing that "Do It Yourself" and stop relying on other people attitude - it is way overused.  We don't live in a "DIY" economy.  In fact, the general nature of an economy is not DIY.  The purpose is to do one thing that you are good at it, and trade that for other things, so that you don't have to do everything yourself.

Yes we have a lot of dumb people, including parents, in this country.  But it is not necessarily a failure on parents that they cannot educate their children efficiently.  Just as you would not say "Build your own house" or "manafacture your own car" to someone, it is just as ok to pay


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deadendeavor said:
What broad generalizations you have.


What dry wit you have.


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starfire_xes said:
Why do we need PBS?

Also I wonder, back in the day, before all the taxes, all the government programs, the government putting their hands in everything, deciding this and deciding that--I'm surprised anyone survived the carnage of those days. :smirk:


One book that springs to mind is Life, Inc. by Douglas Rushkoff.  He basically documents how these things came to be.  Pretty interesting book.
I'm speaking of the taxing and such, not of the utility of PBS.

Gilgamesh18 said:
deadendeavor said:
What broad generalizations you have.


What dry wit you have.


Eh, at times but I'm not in much of a witty mood.  I just found your comment rather ridiculous in its loose approximation.

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I am a rather ridiculous individual


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And I'm a cynical asshole :ohwell:
No jimmies were rustled during the making of these posts.

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badchad said:
JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


This.  I think this thread is a testament to the failure of the education system.  I shudder to think that it could get worse if funding is cut.


this


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deadendeavor said:
And I'm a cynical asshole :ohwell:
No jimmies were rustled during the making of these posts.


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If you can't say what you mean, say nothing.


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nicechrisman said:
badchad said:
JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


This.  I think this thread is a testament to the failure of the education system.  I shudder to think that it could get worse if funding is cut.


this


Because the education system is meant to indoctrinate people into left wing ideology yes.


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Why cut funding to PBS? It's one of the better places to watch television. How much money are we talking about any way? It can't be much when you compare it to the defense budget. I mean it plays to Romney's base so I get why he said it but really PBS is the enemy here? Sounds like smoke and mirrors to me.


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Sure the defense budget needs cutting I am in favor of cuts, but honestly the federal government has more of a duty to national defense than to tv programming. Funding pbs is not constitutional.


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I'm just saying in the grand scheme of things it really seems like a non issue. A distraction.


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JesseWhite780 said:
Why cut funding to PBS? It's one of the better places to watch television. How much money are we talking about any way? It can't be much when you compare it to the defense budget. I mean it plays to Romney's base so I get why he said it but really PBS is the enemy here? Sounds like smoke and mirrors to me.


Funding PBS is not a power the constitution gives to the Feds.

No show/network should receive Federal funding. It doesn't matter if it's a single dollar.


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JesseWhite780 said:
I'm just saying in the grand scheme of things it really seems like a non issue. A distraction.


A distraction? There are hundreds, if not thousands, of places the Feds spend money that they shouldn't.

It's a symptom of a larger disease.


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But you do realize the only reason Romney brought up PBS is due to his base. I doubt he really cares if the Gov funds PBS. Don't forget he is a politician looking for votes. Obama too.


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Are you able to read Romney's mind?


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Gilgamesh18 said:
nicechrisman said:
badchad said:
JoieDeVivre said:
It wasn't an analogy, he's seriously going to cut PBS and anything else that he deems to be not "critical" which means a lot of things that are beneficial to our society in ways that he cannot understand. No more sesame street or other educational programs for children. They can watch the shit that's on Nick or Cartoon Network.


This.  I think this thread is a testament to the failure of the education system.  I shudder to think that it could get worse if funding is cut.


this


Because the education system is meant to indoctrinate people into left wing ideology yes.


yes, because right wing ideology is the past. If we keep following right wing ideaology, soon corporations will own all our wild lands, the divide between the rich and the poor will become even greater, and our military will continue to grow, while social program after social program is cut. Things like pensions and benefits will cease to exist for the working class. Welcome to the brave new world. I suppose the positive would be that it could act as a catalyst for revolution.


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I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying but I do know how these politicians think and I do not think there is much difference between any of them. They may argue this or that but at the end of the day all they care about is perception not reality. Votes are what count the most and getting re elected is their job. It's one big country club that you or I are not invited to join unless that is you have enough money to get elected. Money is the only constant.


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luvdemshrooms said:
JesseWhite780 said:
I'm just saying in the grand scheme of things it really seems like a non issue. A distraction.


A distraction? There are hundreds, if not thousands, of places the Feds spend money that they shouldn't.

It's a symptom of a larger disease.


There's a reason a phrase as vague as "general welfare" was included under the federal taxation and spending powers (Art. I, Sec. 8) - unless they're actually infringing on state or personal rights it was intended to mean whatever the congress wants it to mean.

/Prepares to hear how it violates your right not to be taxed for things you don't like.


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Yea not to mention social security or medi/care-caid. The defense budget troubles me far more then the measly amount public broadcasting receives. I don't like hypocrites regardless of party. After his big bird comment Romney said he was ready to fully fund the military to the tune of whatever the defense department requests which to say the least is troubling.


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not sure how non biased this is, but just a general concept here
http://costofwar.com/media/uploads/security_spending_primer/discretionary_budget_m_vs_nm.pdf
what do you see that needs cut?


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That's one big chunk of red!


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This.  I think this thread is a testament to the failure of the education system.  I shudder to think that it could get worse if funding is cut.


this


Because the education system is meant to indoctrinate people into left wing ideology yes.


yes, because right wing ideology is the past. If we keep following right wing ideaology, soon corporations will own all our wild lands, the divide between the rich and the poor will become even greater, and our military will continue to grow, while social program after social program is cut. Things like pensions and benefits will cease to exist for the working class. Welcome to the brave new world. I suppose the positive would be that it could act as a catalyst for revolution.


LOL well at least your honest about were you stand. As for corporations being evil entities that do no good you are dead wrong. They employ thousands of workers and raise the standard of living for all. Not sure why they would cut pensions as another company would provide a pension plan and people would work for that company. Capitalism has enriched the world and fostered technological advance. Tell me an economic system that would work better I dare you.


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Please tell me that you are not questioning my intelligence. I mean we may disagree with you but that doesn't mean that I'm ignorant or unpatriotic.


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Comment was mostly directed at nice and show me were I said you were ignorant or unpatriotic. This is essentially a debate and name calling will get you nowhere.


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I knew you were not talking about me! Because I know everything and am never wrong. Ever.


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I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things. I have mixed thoughts honestly on the whole corporation issue. Honestly, corporations are generally better equipped to offer reasonable benefits and things like that compared to small businesses who often don't.

I'm just saying that they need to be regulated is all. We can't just hand the world over to the super wealthy owners of a few corporations and expect that they are going to respect our nature and people. That's what I'm trying to say.


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Capitalism does however sometimes foster the worst in human nature namely greed. Which can equate into the subjugation of individual persons and or their culture and natural resources. I'm not saying in all cases but it certainly has happened and is happening as we speak.


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nicechrisman said:
I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things. I have mixed thoughts honestly on the whole corporation issue. Honestly, corporations are generally better equipped to offer reasonable benefits and things like that compared to small businesses who often don't.

I'm just saying that they need to be regulated is all. We can't just hand the world over to the super wealthy owners of a few corporations and expect that they are going to respect our nature and people. That's what I'm trying to say.


I gotcha and corporations are regulated by the government and consumers do you think the BP oil spill was good for that companies bottom line hell no. There stock lost nearly half its value and it still hasn't recovered. So I would argue that unethical business practices are not sustainable and it is in a corporations best interest to be ethical.


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Gilgamesh18 said:
nicechrisman said:
I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things. I have mixed thoughts honestly on the whole corporation issue. Honestly, corporations are generally better equipped to offer reasonable benefits and things like that compared to small businesses who often don't.

I'm just saying that they need to be regulated is all. We can't just hand the world over to the super wealthy owners of a few corporations and expect that they are going to respect our nature and people. That's what I'm trying to say.


I gotcha and corporations are regulated by the government and consumers do you think the BP oil spill was good for that companies bottom line hell no. There stock lost nearly half its value and it still hasn't recovered. So I would argue that unethical business practices are not sustainable and it is in a corporations best interest to be ethical.


I'm sorry, but that's an absurd argument IMO.


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nicechrisman said:
I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things.


No, what brought us many great things were two things in particular:
A. Cheap energy
B. Technology

Capitalism is obsolete.  It is actually hampering our world more than it is helping it.  I know I'm not gonna make many friends saying so but it's the truth.


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deadendeavor said:
nicechrisman said:
I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things.


No, what brought us many great things were two things in particular:
A. Cheap energy
B. Technology

Capitalism is obsolete.  It is actually hampering our world more than it is helping it.  I know I'm not gonna make many friends saying so but it's the truth.


I agree. I'm not in favor of centralization (which is what people immediately think of when you bring up communism), but governments need to take a strong role in education and finance or the world is going to go to shit.

To you who claims the government is capable of no good, I disagree, and ask you to stop sabotaging my fucking government.


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BlindSophist said:
deadendeavor said:
nicechrisman said:
I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things.


No, what brought us many great things were two things in particular:
A. Cheap energy
B. Technology

Capitalism is obsolete.  It is actually hampering our world more than it is helping it.  I know I'm not gonna make many friends saying so but it's the truth.


I agree. I'm not in favor of centralization (which is what people immediately think of when you bring up communism), but governments need to take a strong role in education and finance or the world is going to go to shit.

To you who claims the government is capable of no good, I disagree, and ask you to stop sabotaging my fucking government.


I didn't mean to bring up communism. :lol:
I don't know what the solution is honestly.  Centralization, if used in line with human needs and wants, could be very effective.  On the other hand it could be quite destructive.
I'm only saying that our current system is fucked.  For so many reasons they're virtually inexhaustible.

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In this country, trying to advance the role of government in citizens' lives will get you labeled a communist. The right-wingers will (inappropriately) conjure up black-and-white memories of the eastern bloc's routinely-fatal methods for rapid industrialization to justify their smears. Only the opposite extreme, complete deregulation of private industry and defunding of the government, is considered kosher by the elites. Even Democrats are stuck with this worldview (though less severely than Republicans).

It fucking pisses me off. :crankey:


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BlindSophist said:
In this country, trying to advance the role of government in citizens' lives will get you labeled a communist. The right-wingers will (inappropriately) conjure up black-and-white memories of the eastern bloc's routinely-fatal methods for rapid industrialization to justify their smears. Only the opposite extreme, complete deregulation of private industry and defunding of the government, is considered kosher by the elites. Even Democrats are stuck with this worldview (though less severely than Republicans).

It fucking pisses me off. :crankey:


pretty much this


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This would be like a starving African in the Gobi desert sucking a dick just so they could survive a little longer off of the nutrients in the cum.


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BlindSophist said:
In this country, trying to advance the role of government in citizens' lives will get you labeled a communist. The right-wingers will (inappropriately) conjure up black-and-white memories of the eastern bloc's routinely-fatal methods for rapid industrialization to justify their smears. Only the opposite extreme, complete deregulation of private industry and defunding of the government, is considered kosher by the elites. Even Democrats are stuck with this worldview (though less severely than Republicans).

It fucking pisses me off. :crankey:



....but not at the Federal Level.  Leave it to the states, that is where the democracy exists in the US Constitution.  If the federal government wasn't meddling in everything, we would have a lot of legal drugs right now, like the 2C's (great psycedelics) Medical marijuana, etc.


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starfire_xes said:
BlindSophist said:
In this country, trying to advance the role of government in citizens' lives will get you labeled a communist. The right-wingers will (inappropriately) conjure up black-and-white memories of the eastern bloc's routinely-fatal methods for rapid industrialization to justify their smears. Only the opposite extreme, complete deregulation of private industry and defunding of the government, is considered kosher by the elites. Even Democrats are stuck with this worldview (though less severely than Republicans).

It fucking pisses me off. :crankey:



....but not at the Federal Level.  Leave it to the states, that is where the democracy exists in the US Constitution.  If the federal government wasn't meddling in everything, we would have a lot of legal drugs right now, like the 2C's (great psycedelics) Medical marijuana, etc.


I agree with this 100%.


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nicechrisman said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
nicechrisman said:
I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things. I have mixed thoughts honestly on the whole corporation issue. Honestly, corporations are generally better equipped to offer reasonable benefits and things like that compared to small businesses who often don't.

I'm just saying that they need to be regulated is all. We can't just hand the world over to the super wealthy owners of a few corporations and expect that they are going to respect our nature and people. That's what I'm trying to say.


I gotcha and corporations are regulated by the government and consumers do you think the BP oil spill was good for that companies bottom line hell no. There stock lost nearly half its value and it still hasn't recovered. So I would argue that unethical business practices are not sustainable and it is in a corporations best interest to be ethical.


I'm sorry, but that's an absurd argument IMO.


Lol ok your right its absurd no business is ethical only the state can be ethical. All hail our new federal overlords.


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Gilgamesh18 said:
nicechrisman said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
nicechrisman said:
I'm not saying capitolism is inherently wrong. You are absolutely right that it has brought us many great things. I have mixed thoughts honestly on the whole corporation issue. Honestly, corporations are generally better equipped to offer reasonable benefits and things like that compared to small businesses who often don't.

I'm just saying that they need to be regulated is all. We can't just hand the world over to the super wealthy owners of a few corporations and expect that they are going to respect our nature and people. That's what I'm trying to say.


I gotcha and corporations are regulated by the government and consumers do you think the BP oil spill was good for that companies bottom line hell no. There stock lost nearly half its value and it still hasn't recovered. So I would argue that unethical business practices are not sustainable and it is in a corporations best interest to be ethical.


I'm sorry, but that's an absurd argument IMO.


Lol ok your right its absurd no business is ethical only the state can be ethical. All hail our new federal overlords.


I think it's absurd to argue that the invisible hand of the market behaves in a way that is reliably or even normally ethical.


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Making money is evil only when everyone is brought down to the same level of mediocrity will the leftists be satisfied.


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I think it's absurd to argue that the invisible hand of the market behaves in a way that is reliably or even normally ethical.


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Gilgamesh18 said:
Making money is evil only when everyone is brought down to the same level of mediocrity will the leftists be satisfied.


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If you only look at the world in extremes, sure. If you realize that neither the market nor the government always knows what's best, you'd realize it's a bit too heavily stacked in favor of the former in this country.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
If you only look at the world in extremes, sure. If you realize that neither the market nor the government always knows what's best, you'd realize it's a bit too heavily stacked in favor of the former in this country.


George Washington said, “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master…”


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
If you only look at the world in extremes, sure. If you realize that neither the market nor the government always knows what's best, you'd realize it's a bit too heavily stacked in favor of the former in this country.


Are you kidding me the government calls most of the shots corporate bailouts crony capitalism its ridiculous. Why would anyone ever want a an overbearing centralized authority ordering there life the way they deem fit. Thats the end game of the left to allow government to govern every aspect of our lives from cradle to grave.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
an overbearing centralized authority


I was just talking about this earlier-- I never argued in favor of centralizing, but there you are, calling me a supporter of big centralized government because I think a secular non-profit organization should exist to guarantee certain rights.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Right and instead you are in favor of more bureaucracy, because that's better. There's not enough red tape strangling businesses anyways.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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So it would be safe to say you are moderate on the issue of free market and regulation?


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
So it would be safe to say you are moderate on the issue of free market and regulation?


Militantly. There are too many damn extremists.



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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
So it would be safe to say you are moderate on the issue of free market and regulation?


Militantly. There are too many damn extremists.




Yeah, fully believing in total freedom is extreme - to pussies.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
BlindSophist said:
If you only look at the world in extremes, sure. If you realize that neither the market nor the government always knows what's best, you'd realize it's a bit too heavily stacked in favor of the former in this country.


Are you kidding me the government calls most of the shots corporate bailouts crony capitalism its ridiculous. Why would anyone ever want a an overbearing centralized authority ordering there life the way they deem fit. Thats the end game of the left to allow government to govern every aspect of our lives from cradle to grave.



He already said a few posts back that the federal government shouldn't be meddling things and they should be left to the states to make the laws.

So I believe Blind Sophist is a closet libertarian. :awesomenod:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: starfire_xes]
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Ah well that is good news starfire. Sorry for freaking out blindsophist.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Is this a FUCKING joke?
What in the HOLY FUCK? Is this what people focus on? Not fucking REAL issues? Fucking big bird???
America...:facepalm:
Im ashamed to live here.

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
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xbloodwhipx said:
Is this a FUCKING joke?
What in the HOLY FUCK? Is this what people focus on? Not fucking REAL issues? Fucking big bird???
America...:facepalm:
Im ashamed to live here.


Well to be fair it is a critical benchmark of a candidates electability :datass:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
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It's not fucking about Big Bird, it's about publicly funded broadcasting.


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
It's not fucking about Big Bird, it's about publicly funded broadcasting.


:shrug:
I didnt read the article anyway lol, just read the title and did a quick google search

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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Celestial Traveler said:
This would be like a starving African in the Gobi desert sucking a dick just so they could survive a little longer off of the nutrients in the cum.?


:girlofdisapproval:


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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There are two things the media is trying to do:  1) See if they can make Romney look silly and 2) Avoid discussion of the issue--should PBS be cut or not?


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Re: What gives with the "Big Bird Controversy" bullshit? [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said:
There are two things the media is trying to do:  1) See if they can make Romney look silly and 2) Avoid discussion of the issue--should PBS be cut or not?


backfires.

they look :tard:

PBS is so far down the list of concerns it is mind boggling the massively more important things they are trivializing by focusing on that.


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