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leafing
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most visual less mindfuck drug of them all
#16964565 - 10/04/12 10:45 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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which one?
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lovesexdubstep
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: leafing]
#16964648 - 10/04/12 11:08 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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from what ive tried, 25i-nbome. seriously almost no mindfuck even at higher doses, yet the visuals are amongst the most immersive. the only 'mindfuck' you get is how enveloping the visuals are, open and closed eye bombardment.
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LucyLove
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: lovesexdubstep]
#16964653 - 10/04/12 11:10 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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lovesexdubstep said: from what ive tried, 25i-nbome. seriously almost no mindfuck even at higher doses, yet the visuals are amongst the most immersive. the only 'mindfuck' you get is how enveloping the visuals are, open and closed eye bombardment.
From what I have tried and heard it does have SOME mindfuck, not a lot though. 25C is supposed none,
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: LucyLove]
#16964909 - 10/04/12 12:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll have to give that a go sometime.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: epic3.14]
#16964936 - 10/04/12 12:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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25i most def has some mindfuck. 25c has none though, and so far 2C-B has had no mindfuck on me.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: epic3.14]
#16964944 - 10/04/12 12:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmmm it's a weird question because all drugs effect people differently. Also, what are the intangibles like dosage, setting, and mind set?
Personally Shrooms give the most intense "Mind Fuck" for me; but I've read reports here that many don't have the fuck I have. CID doesn't mind fuck me at all until I tried the 20 strip and it fucked my mind worse than any other substance I've taken. DMT never fucks with my mind; but I've read reports that many got their wig pulled back from just a 30mg bungee jump. I've drank 18" worth of Bridgesii and didn't even have the same amount of visuals as I've had off a 5 strip of CID. All the 25 series I've taken never fucked with my mind, but the visuals were "meh" to me.
So this question has a lot of "What ifs".
If you want to ask what personally I think gives the highest level of "visuals" on an average dose; it's definitely DMT. The drug that gave me the highest level of mind fuck and visuals was the high dose of CID. The drug that gave me the highest level of mind fuck was high doses of Shrooms.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: FakePlasticSky]
#16965516 - 10/04/12 01:48 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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There aren't a ton of visuals with Five MeO Dimitri but it sure can be mindfucky.
Not to say there aren't visuals but there not the predominant feature to the experience imo.
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indocult
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: lurkmode]
#16965570 - 10/04/12 01:55 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dmt anyone? I find I'm perfectly clear minded when blasting off, only immersed in a totally different dimension...
the NBOMe's are pretty mindfucky. 25c is pretty gross stuff. I took 2 mg, and I felt really bad for the first hour, started trippin in 10 mins. I felt like I waa gonna get really sick or that I had taken poison. Very scared I was going to die or something of the sort. The visuals after that were fucking ammazing though. Verry LSD tracer like, my girl has amazing LED hula hoop and entertained me and some friends for a few hours. Saw ufo's, but that happens every time I trip and sometimes while not trippping
25i is cleaner, tastes less like shit. Haven't had high doseage with it yet tho. Hopefully this afternoon tho.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: indocult]
#16965615 - 10/04/12 02:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me 4-ho-met had very little mindfuck with beautiful closed and open eyed visuals.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: lovesexdubstep]
#16965645 - 10/04/12 02:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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lovesexdubstep said: from what ive tried, 25i-nbome. seriously almost no mindfuck even at higher doses, yet the visuals are amongst the most immersive. the only 'mindfuck' you get is how enveloping the visuals are, open and closed eye bombardment.
Yea I have taken medium to medium-high doses of 25x and I pretty much feel exactly this way. One time when I was on 25x with a friend we were sitting in his car and smoking/talking and I remember saying, "Its like thoughts move through my brain like butter". Meanwhile their are ridiculous red root patterns overlaying my entire visual field.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: elgatogordo]
#16965659 - 10/04/12 02:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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2C-B for real though. My 25mg trip is pretty much done by now and it was all just visuals and I could think and type perfectly with no problem.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: zhparrish]
#16965683 - 10/04/12 02:14 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats weird how some people say the nbomes have mindfuck while others say none. i literally feel like my mind is sober on 25i, even amongst all the visuals. more traditional psychs like lsd and shrooms give me a fuller experience with the mindfuck, racing thoughts, whoa moments, perceived depth. i guess its a bit different for everyone.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: lovesexdubstep]
#16965751 - 10/04/12 02:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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now the question comes: which do you seek most, mindfuck or visuals?
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Observatory]
#16966075 - 10/04/12 03:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT fashoo
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No Cars Go
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Observatory]
#16966077 - 10/04/12 03:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Observatory said: now the question comes: which do you seek most, mindfuck or visuals?
The perfect balance of both: LSD
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: cez]
#16966089 - 10/04/12 03:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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That was not meant to Observatory, op.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: cez]
#16967519 - 10/04/12 07:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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cez said: That was not meant to Observatory, op.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Observatory]
#16967592 - 10/04/12 07:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT with out a doubt. But 2cb is way more fun you get some interesting digital visuals. Find some 2cb.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: sailing]
#16967755 - 10/04/12 07:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is meant by "mind fuck"?
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Bumble Bee]
#16968193 - 10/04/12 08:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bumble Bee said: What is meant by "mind fuck"?
its how strong the head trip is. If it's clear headed, its said to not have a strong "mind fuck"
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Bumble Bee]
#16968309 - 10/04/12 08:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bumble Bee said: What is meant by "mind fuck"?
its sort of like being mind blown.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: MightyJoeJon]
#16968322 - 10/04/12 08:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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2c-b, and 25i hands down
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: topdog82]
#16968414 - 10/04/12 09:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want 2cb again... Those little bee pills kicked ass
Wish they would come back around again.
2cb wins hands down
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: SummerDaisies]
#16968859 - 10/04/12 10:30 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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SummerDaisies said: I want 2cb again... Those little bee pills kicked ass
Wish they would come back around again.
2cb wins hands down
It is like the euphoria of rolling, with the shroomey visuals, with the headspace of a low dose of acid, and gentleness of acid
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: topdog82]
#16968952 - 10/04/12 10:46 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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The thread has put me in the mood for some glorious nexus.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Dawks]
#16969150 - 10/04/12 11:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dawks said: The thread has put me in the mood for some glorious nexus.
As with me! haha it has reminded me how awesome nexus is. Imma try and get some asap
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: SummerDaisies]
#16969208 - 10/04/12 11:41 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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SummerDaisies said: I want 2cb again... Those little bee pills kicked ass
Wish they would come back around again.
2cb wins hands down
That is what i got man. Some blue ones and some orange ones. They are abundant in seattle dude. I think the blue ones are 20mg and the orange ones are 18mg. Supposedly. These things are fucking gems bro. You know that bee on the tablet is the Strike bee from that famous Hive website from the near distant past ? it was like a tribute pill lol. Very cool. What a treat right ? Glad you got to try them to. I really don't know why they aren't more popular. They beat the hell out of E, that's for sure...
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: leafing]
#16969665 - 10/05/12 02:00 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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most visual-less mindfuck drug
most visual, less mindfuck drug
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Sleepwalker]
#16969973 - 10/05/12 04:32 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like having my mind fucked.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: TheEaglesGift] 1
#16969990 - 10/05/12 04:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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CounterCulturest said:
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SummerDaisies said: I want 2cb again... Those little bee pills kicked ass
Wish they would come back around again.
2cb wins hands down
That is what i got man. Some blue ones and some orange ones. They are abundant in seattle dude. I think the blue ones are 20mg and the orange ones are 18mg. Supposedly. These things are fucking gems bro. You know that bee on the tablet is the Strike bee from that famous Hive website from the near distant past ? it was like a tribute pill lol. Very cool. What a treat right ? Glad you got to try them to. I really don't know why they aren't more popular. They beat the hell out of E, that's for sure...
While I did not completely enjoy the hell out of 2C-B I largely contribute that to the fact I was just sitting in my room testing it out. I'll probably bring a 25 mg cap or 2 to the sphongle show and do those instead of molly, know any good combinations to go with 2C-B?
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: zhparrish]
#16970949 - 10/05/12 10:28 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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zhparrish said:
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CounterCulturest said:
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SummerDaisies said: I want 2cb again... Those little bee pills kicked ass
Wish they would come back around again.
2cb wins hands down
That is what i got man. Some blue ones and some orange ones. They are abundant in seattle dude. I think the blue ones are 20mg and the orange ones are 18mg. Supposedly. These things are fucking gems bro. You know that bee on the tablet is the Strike bee from that famous Hive website from the near distant past ? it was like a tribute pill lol. Very cool. What a treat right ? Glad you got to try them to. I really don't know why they aren't more popular. They beat the hell out of E, that's for sure...
While I did not completely enjoy the hell out of 2C-B I largely contribute that to the fact I was just sitting in my room testing it out. I'll probably bring a 25 mg cap or 2 to the sphongle show and do those instead of molly, know any good combinations to go with 2C-B?
2C-B and MDMA is epic combo.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: LucyLove]
#16970954 - 10/05/12 10:29 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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How do you think 2C-B + MDMA + LSD would go?
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: zhparrish]
#16971043 - 10/05/12 10:52 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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zhparrish said: How do you think 2C-B + MDMA + LSD would go?
Terrific at shpongle.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: LucyLove]
#16971073 - 10/05/12 10:58 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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zhparrish said: How do you think 2C-B + MDMA + LSD would go?
Terrific at shpongle.
I have some 25c laying around too... If I can't get LSD would that work for an alternative? I highly doubt I can't find LSD at Shpongle but you never know.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: zhparrish]
#16971137 - 10/05/12 11:09 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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zhparrish said: How do you think 2C-B + MDMA + LSD would go?
Terrific at shpongle.
I have some 25c laying around too... If I can't get LSD would that work for an alternative? I highly doubt I can't find LSD at Shpongle but you never know.
Perfect alternative
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: LucyLove]
#16976014 - 10/06/12 04:02 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh man. Please try the mdma/2C-B concoction. I have read so many times how it is the best combo in. Of course not as good as the acid/weed combo. I have read from many different people that if you take your mdma and have a good roll and then you take the nexus on the comedown and it is the most gentle, relaxing and aesthetically pleasing combo ever. A lot of reports I have read about this combo have one thing in common, it is their favorite combo. I have VERY high hopes for this. I'm always down for dose, it's my favorite drug. But we both need to try just the molly/nexus combo and leave the acid out of this particular equation at least one time.
At a rainbow gathering I took this concoction of (I was already on 2 hits of great acid/hash) 2cb, 2ce, mdma and mda. Throughout this crazy trip I had no idea which drug was actually doing what. Especially during the peak, everything was going insane including my visuals body and mind. It was unreal. Very powerful combo. The 8 friends I was with absolutely loved it to.
However. For shpongle I think you should involve some acid. Take your acid and then maybe add some molly towards the end. I have never done this combo but I have heard nothing but good things.
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CounterCulturest said: Oh man. Please try the mdma/2C-B concoction. I have read so many times how it is the best combo in. Of course not as good as the acid/weed combo. I have read from many different people that if you take your mdma and have a good roll and then you take the nexus on the comedown and it is the most gentle, relaxing and aesthetically pleasing combo ever. A lot of reports I have read about this combo have one thing in common, it is their favorite combo. I have VERY high hopes for this. I'm always down for dose, it's my favorite drug. But we both need to try just the molly/nexus combo and leave the acid out of this particular equation at least one time.
At a rainbow gathering I took this concoction of (I was already on 2 hits of great acid/hash) 2cb, 2ce, mdma and mda. Throughout this crazy trip I had no idea which drug was actually doing what. Especially during the peak, everything was going insane including my visuals body and mind. It was unreal. Very powerful combo. The 8 friends I was with absolutely loved it to.
However. For shpongle I think you should involve some acid. Take your acid and then maybe add some molly towards the end. I have never done this combo but I have heard nothing but good things.
LSD + 2c-b was one of the best combo's ever. never candyflipped, but 2c-b and lsd delivers no hangover at all. one of my best trips ever
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: topdog82]
#16978422 - 10/06/12 03:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just thought I would add this video to my previous post. It is pretty self explanatory of how great 2c-b
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: topdog82]
#16978445 - 10/06/12 03:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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2C-E
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: topdog82]
#16978725 - 10/06/12 04:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: I just thought I would add this video to my previous post. It is pretty self explanatory of how great 2c-b
i prefer to be like this
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: allseeingike]
#16978864 - 10/06/12 04:48 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: 2C-E
2c-e I have heard is very visual, but wats the headspace like? Mindfuck? or relaxed?
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topdog82 said: I just thought I would add this video to my previous post. It is pretty self explanatory of how great 2c-b
i prefer to be like this
In this case, the mindfuck factor is very prevelant. 2c-b is very easy on the head. Almost like a psychdelic roll to me
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: topdog82]
#16979019 - 10/06/12 05:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah but i just love the mindfuck thats what its all about for me. the only drug that has n mindfuck that i truly love is dmt because it is still so profound. ive had research chems that are only visuals and they have gotten quite boring during the trip. unless you have something to do its not fun. at least thats my experience
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: allseeingike]
#16979036 - 10/06/12 05:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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2c-e is pretty relaxed. I've heard reports of ego death, but I never got close to that with 17mg. Wish I had some more of that stuff.
Edited by breeg89 (10/06/12 05:19 PM)
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: breeg89]
#16979125 - 10/06/12 05:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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the few times ive had 2ce it was always just visuals and no mndfuck although i did get a sligth body high and stomach discomfort. never had any crazy visuals on it though and i snorted 10 mg once most ive had was 20 mg orally. was kind of dissapointing although the body high was like a roll but cleaner(not like mdma a dirty roll) and it was quite nice. touching felt really good. 2cp was also just visual for me. 2ci was probably the funnest for me as it had nice visuals and intense fucking body high. 30 mph in a car felt like a fucking rollercoaster i almost had a heart attack in the back seat while a friend drove to get a blunt wrap. i kissed the ground when i got out of the car lol
ive never tried 2cb but ive always heard it was the best i guess thats why it has been illegal the longest i wouldnt mind trying it if i ever come across it though ive been left pretty dissapointed with all the other 2cx chems
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: allseeingike]
#16980078 - 10/06/12 08:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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2c-e was always very visual for me. Very similar to LSD and bridgesii visuals.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: breeg89]
#16980106 - 10/06/12 08:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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me too. but you get a solid dose of mindfuck when you get around 30mg. start thinking some weird shit....but different than LSD or Mescaline, which have similar visuals and headfucked.
The most headfuck i ever got was a real 900ug of LSD.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: starfire_xes]
#16980124 - 10/06/12 08:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shame 2c-e is illegal now. If I ever find it on the street I'd pick up some more.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: breeg89]
#16980189 - 10/06/12 08:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never tried any RC's, but through my few years of LSD, Mesc, Mush, I found that there was a very obvious and apparent relationship between Visuls and Mindfuck, with mushrooms being the most mindfucky, but with some of the softest, least apparent visuals. Acid seemed to be the one just tipped in the middle with mindfuck and visuals keeping hand in hand with eachother as dosage increases, and Mescaline giving very nice, clearheaded, lucid trips, but with visual out the orifices. Like I would have moments where I'd have forgotten I was tripping, being involved in some task, and would only be reminded again when I saw a fucking cosmic lightshow coming off the black white wall.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Azure Essence]
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Azure Essence said: Mescaline giving very nice, clearheaded, lucid trips, but with visual out the orifices. Like I would have moments where I'd have forgotten I was tripping, being involved in some task, and would only be reminded again when I saw a fucking cosmic lightshow coming off the black white wall.
you didn't take enough mescaline.....
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: starfire_xes]
#16980329 - 10/06/12 08:34 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, you know after a couple of years and talking about it, someone pointed me to a Pill ID forum or something which suggested what I had taken was acutally Piperazine or something? Some shit I'd never heard of of until I read it there, but similar pills suggested it.
So that could very well be the case
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: starfire_xes]
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Azure Essence said: Mescaline giving very nice, clearheaded, lucid trips, but with visual out the orifices. Like I would have moments where I'd have forgotten I was tripping, being involved in some task, and would only be reminded again when I saw a fucking cosmic lightshow coming off the black white wall.
you didn't take enough mescaline.....
^ What he said. Bridgesii can really fuck with the ego (can't speak for pure mescaline, though).
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: breeg89]
#16986355 - 10/07/12 07:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never had full ego death, maybe a stupid question but is it something to be sought after?
Does DMT bring ego death or just visuals/entity contact?
2C-T-7 got me really mindfucked in such a pleasant way 2C-I was rather visual I took acid during a very stressful place in my life, I got mindfucked in the worst way; it can only be described as the wrath of God
I'd like to find a psyche that is very forgiving
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Observatory]
#16986402 - 10/07/12 07:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Observatory said: I've never had full ego death, maybe a stupid question but is it something to be sought after?
Does DMT bring ego death or just visuals/entity contact?
2C-T-7 got me really mindfucked in such a pleasant way 2C-I was rather visual I took acid during a very stressful place in my life, I got mindfucked in the worst way; it can only be described as the wrath of God
I'd like to find a psyche that is very forgiving
Take mushrooms then smoke DMT.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Observatory]
#16986464 - 10/07/12 07:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Observatory said: I've never had full ego death, maybe a stupid question but is it something to be sought after?
Personally I think this aspect of tripping is a little overblown by some people. Yes, you can get really confused and lose yourself...but if you get to that point then you aren't really trying to enjoy anything any more...you won't know what "you" even are. If it happens, fine. If not, awesome. I don't go looking for that experience.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Azure Essence]
#16987867 - 10/07/12 11:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said:
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Observatory said: I've never had full ego death, maybe a stupid question but is it something to be sought after?
Does DMT bring ego death or just visuals/entity contact?
2C-T-7 got me really mindfucked in such a pleasant way 2C-I was rather visual I took acid during a very stressful place in my life, I got mindfucked in the worst way; it can only be described as the wrath of God
I'd like to find a psyche that is very forgiving
Take mushrooms then smoke DMT.
How does this experience stack up against individual dmt or shroom trip? I find both these substances to be very intense alone, but together!?!? I'm considering dmt on my next shroom venture though.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: cez]
#16988216 - 10/08/12 12:34 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are we forgetting here? Ketamine? I have never done it, but to me it sounded like a dissociation high with a roll-like removal of anxiety?
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: topdog82]
#16988401 - 10/08/12 01:38 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ketamine ? well visually it never did much for me. A little yeah but it's strange. In lower doses it's like a psychedelic drunk. The visuals almost look like what it looks like when you are coming onto acid. Or like taking a hit of bunk that just didn't get you off ya know ? Things get a bit more vibrant and start vibrating a little bit. Mentally I don't think it took away my anxiety or relaxed me. Afterwards I suppose so but the actual high doesn't really change my state of mind. Ketamine is a great drug. Everytime I do it I just tell myself how overrated it is but I just keep going back to it ! everyone I know loves ketamine. They will jump on that shit if it is around.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: leafing]
#16992745 - 10/08/12 05:49 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I honestly think it comes down to the information you are retaining at the moment of doing your drug of choice. I can say I had a mild form of "mindfuck" on all of my psychedelic trips. The less noticable were the 25NBOMe trips but they still messed with my thought patterns.
I guess the point I am trying to make is that I don't think It actually comes down to the drug you ingest but rather the information swimming around in your conscious or subconscious mind.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Sham87]
#16992921 - 10/08/12 06:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've watched this thread for a few days and 2c-B seems to be the general pick
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: FruitOfLife]
#16993606 - 10/08/12 07:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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^yeah dude. I think everyone should have a go with the Nexus. I know all the other digital drugs have other stuff to offer but I think that if you had one chance to toy with RC's or digital drugs, you should choose 2CB. Most people I hear about that have done it seem to think it's way fun. It was always easy on my body to. Short duration and it doesn't having any lingering effects unlike nbome (ime). I have never done 2ce but I know that it seems to be tied with 2ce on these forums. People love that stuff but I think B is more shallow and visual.
It's strange though. I have read many accounts of people getting really sick from 2cb and thrown into a virtual hell. And this is at average doses of like 15-20mg and many of the reports I read, the author claims that they have been taking the same dose prior to that but it's like after so many uses your body begins to not handle it so well. I have done it like 5-6 times now and I noticed the last time I did it I felt nauseated and had a darker trip and this was 18mg. The same dosage I took in the past. So i dunno. I question what negative effects that stuff has on our bodies. It's almost like you only get so many opportunities with this stuff. But who knows, this is just reports I have read...
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: leafing]
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Some compounds may be more suitable for enhancing meditation practice than are others. I personally have had substantial experience with the phenethylamines, outstanding examples of which are 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7, and 2C-B; the synthetic procedures and physical characteristics of all these are published by Alexander Shulgin. These compounds have the characteristic of having some of the centering qualities of MDMA, yet being more LSD-like than is MDMA without the powerful push of LSD. This lowers the likelihood of the user being trapped in deep pools of repressed material.
Not being as pushy as LSD, these compounds require developing volition to achieve similar levels of experience. This is the same kind of volition that develops the attributes for good meditation practice. Consequently, it is easier to focus attention under their influence; as one develops proficiency in entering the desired state, it is found that the advantage of one compound over another diminishes. The appropriate dose (found by experiement—generally equivalent to 25–50 micrograms of LSD) of most any long-acting psychedelic is helpful.
Do We Still Need Psychedelics? Myron Stolaroff Zig Zag Zen: Buddhism and Psychedelics, p. 205
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: starfire_xes]
#16994224 - 10/08/12 09:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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agreed... I dont know why everyone calls a strong mental trip a mindfuck nowadays LOL. I guess kids cant handle strong trips anymore
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: danlennon3]
#16994776 - 10/08/12 10:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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without any doubt n mind 4-ho-met . Like hardly an body high or mental function changes , but some pretty awesome visuals , not on 2ce level though , for that is the god of visuals and my best friend , who sadly I may never see again . Only his cuz 25i nbome , which I took way to much of in a short period of time . ( 100 plus 550mcrg blotters in under 8 months )
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: jdogGA15]
#16994987 - 10/08/12 11:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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where would you put Salvia at? Total Mindfuck? Visual fuck? What the fuck?
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Manic626]
#16995190 - 10/08/12 11:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would love to try some of these some day!
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Manic626]
#16995312 - 10/09/12 12:08 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Manic626 said: where would you put Salvia at? Total Mindfuck? Visual fuck? What the fuck?
I think "what the fuck" is the best description of salvia . Especially when smoked as a concentrate.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Dawks]
#16995473 - 10/09/12 12:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Manic626 said: where would you put Salvia at? Total Mindfuck? Visual fuck? What the fuck?
I think "what the fuck" is the best description of salvia . Especially when smoked as a concentrate.
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Manic626]
#16996027 - 10/09/12 05:31 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Manic626 said: where would you put Salvia at? Total Mindfuck? Visual fuck? What the fuck?
Salvia:
http://larrycarlson.com/flashmovies_hvlc.html
edit: you probably shouldn't click that link if you have epilepsy
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: Sleepwalker]
#16996190 - 10/09/12 06:48 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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my brain hurts from watching that
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Re: most visual less mindfuck drug of them all [Re: jdogGA15]
#17020412 - 10/12/12 07:41 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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jdogGA15 said: without any doubt n mind 4-ho-met . Like hardly an body high or mental function changes , but some pretty awesome visuals , not on 2ce level though , for that is the god of visuals and my best friend , who sadly I may never see again . Only his cuz 25i nbome , which I took way to much of in a short period of time . ( 100 plus 550mcrg blotters in under 8 months )
4-ho-met is very visual - reminiscent of vaporized DMT (can't compare to pharma/aya). But yeah definitely easier mentally than the fun guys. Did not agree with me at all physically though - bad vasoconstriction and a very weird feeling in my head. Plus my cheeks started turning red/purple. Won't be doing it again.
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