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    #16957934 - 10/03/12 10:17 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i been using this tek: lest rest the grain for 6 - 12 hs in order to allow endospores to germinate, then boil 45'

how about boil first and let rest? then a quick heating for facilitate drying.


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Re: question regarding spawn preparation [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #16958018 - 10/03/12 10:39 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I dunno, I always thought standard procedure was to soak at least 12 hours, boil gently for ten minutes, drain.  I sometimes put the rye on paper towels and newspaper to dry out a bit, but lately that hasn't worked - it's become too dry.  My understanding is soaking first releases endospores, boiling kills 'em?

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Re: question regarding spawn preparation [Re: arago]
    #16958097 - 10/03/12 10:57 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

If you start your soak with boiling water then you wont need to soak as long to get proper moisture content. I dont know anything about how many endospores are going to be awake or not..

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Re: question regarding spawn preparation [Re: arago]
    #16958112 - 10/03/12 11:01 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I dunno, I always thought standard procedure was to soak at least 12 hours, boil gently for ten minutes, drain.  I sometimes put the rye on paper towels and newspaper to dry out a bit, but lately that hasn't worked - it's become too dry.  My understanding is soaking first releases endospores, boiling kills 'em?





yes, soaking allows endospores to germinate and suitable to be killed by PC'ing. i don't remember exactly the purpose of boiling after 12 hs soaking. is great because when you pour the grain, the heat dries the surface and eliminates the excess water.

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Re: question regarding spawn preparation [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #16958130 - 10/03/12 11:05 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Why would you want to heat the water twice? seems like a waste of energy.

if anything, I wouldn't boil at all. Just pour dry to jars, add exact amount of water needed for ~50% saturation, let soak for ~12h and then straight to PC.

According to Stamets this method's shortcoming is uneven distribution of water, and I guess it might cause a bit more clumping, but it's definitely less time, fuel and water consuming.

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Re: question regarding spawn preparation [Re: arago]
    #16958163 - 10/03/12 11:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

JavaDog posted a really quick grain prep tek here,he gets dry grain hydrated in under an hour. I am looking forward to giving this one a try once I find a proper container to use inside of my PC.

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Re: question regarding spawn preparation [Re: pseudotsuga]
    #16958256 - 10/03/12 11:32 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Boiling the grain is just to make sure it absorbs as much water as possible.


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Re: question regarding spawn preparation [Re: psyke101]
    #16961355 - 10/03/12 07:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I read somewhere that endospores germinate within 4 - 5 hours, anything longer than that and you are allowing them to recolonise and grow on your grains. How true is this? I don't know. :shrug:

PS: thanks for the tek link Pseudotsuga, nice one :thumbup:


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