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CounterCulturest
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: zhparrish]
#16942488 - 10/01/12 01:00 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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zhparrish said: Well, it's somewhere for me to have fun. It accomplishes that job and I didn't really expect anything else from it.
Exactly. If you can't have fun at a rave then it's your fault. You probably just aren't cut out for it. Like me lol ! It aint my thing. Some of my buddies are way into raving and it's way fun for them. It really just depends on what and how much of it you are willing to embrace. I wish I could get really into it but it's just not my thing either. I love the idea behind it though. Music, dancing, drugs, girls (an epic fucking time if you know how to roll with it)... that doesn't sound like a bad thing to me fellas !
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zhparrish
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Hell, isn't a grateful dead concert just as comparable? People go and do a bunch of drugs and listen to music. While it's obviously an entirely different scene same concept. Drugs and music. Go together like salt and pepper. Also I'm not saying trying to demean any scenes cause I enjoy them all equally really, I'll go to both a rave and a pink floyd concert and have just as much fun at both.
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: zhparrish]
#16942536 - 10/01/12 01:15 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree man. It's just a get together. I'll be the first to admit that I would much rather see a good electronic show (like aphex twin) before The Grateful Dead. I would have to be on a solid dose of acid to enjoy a dead show lmao. I love festivals an shit though. I love gatherings of all types. It's all good shit !
I do understand how a lot of people don't like ravers. There are always sour apples and quite frankly a lot of ravers gross me out. Thug lookin kids twacked out on bunk pills that are drooling on some chick and mean mugging everybody, standing around looking at their phones all night. It really is quite the predator scene, i'll say that. A lot of the kids that show up at raves almost have Date Raper writtin on their forehead. You know what I mean ? There are a few elements of raves that I really don't like being around. That's for sure...
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: zhparrish]
#16942552 - 10/01/12 01:18 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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The substance behind rave culture disappeared when raving went from valuing PLURR to valuing raging. People used to abide by Peace, Love, Unity, Respect, and Responsibility. Now people are taking bath salts, having seizures and getting in fights. It used to be about the music and the vibe. Now it's about "GETTIN' CRUNK AS HELL, YO."
No one knows what drugs they're taking. No one cares about being respectful. All people care about anymore is getting super fucked up, stumbling around, and hoping that whoever they go home with doesn't have herpes.
I watched the rise and fall of my local rave scene. I started out believing it was the most beautiful thing in the world. I now believe it's the most disgusting, self-indulgent garbage western society has created. Some of the music is still good though...
Festivals on the other hand...
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: StoryTeller]
#16942598 - 10/01/12 01:42 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Raves and EDM have become more mainstream. And with that comes the crowds of followers. I've seen so many people rolling their faces off (in a bad way) and not being able to handle their shit. For most it's a learning experience and it is a lot of fun. As for the culture/raves being over rated/fake, I feel like you get what you give. If you see it for what it really is, a huge drug infested party, you'll find there's nothing much below the surface to begin with.
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zhparrish
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: StoryTeller]
#16942608 - 10/01/12 01:48 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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StoryTeller said: The substance behind rave culture disappeared when raving went from valuing PLURR to valuing raging. People used to abide by Peace, Love, Unity, Respect, and Responsibility. Now people are taking bath salts, having seizures and getting in fights. It used to be about the music and the vibe. Now it's about "GETTIN' CRUNK AS HELL, YO."
No one knows what drugs they're taking. No one cares about being respectful. All people care about anymore is getting super fucked up, stumbling around, and hoping that whoever they go home with doesn't have herpes.
I watched the rise and fall of my local rave scene. I started out believing it was the most beautiful thing in the world. I now believe it's the most disgusting, self-indulgent garbage western society has created. Some of the music is still good though...
Festivals on the other hand...
Hell I agree with all the points you make. But I still rave and I still follow all those aspects, I didn't even know what PLUR meant until I was already going to a bunch of raves randomly, I thought it was funny that they had to make a set of guidelines for the raves because I assumed everyone followed them without thinking cause that's sure as hell what I did. I go to the raves because I have fun, I could care less if the whole population of the scene has turned into shit, as long as the DJs I'm seeing are still loving their music and I'm still having fun doing what I do at them then the rest of the people who judge me as another asshole who goes to raves to get fucked up and score with some random chick can bite my ass and not make immediate assumptions. But yes festivals still continue to be the shit regardless of how much our culture changes.
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: zhparrish]
#16942652 - 10/01/12 02:18 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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fucking dubstep or any other mainstream dance music these days are so horrible, you can't listen to them when you're sober, so I'm just really using E or alcohol to dance away the night really and looking at hot bitches grinding on each other is still pretty fun wouldn't you say?
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: acidjoint]
#16942666 - 10/01/12 02:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Go to IDM parties, where there's hippies, not ravers, and the drug of choice is acid, not E. There's good music, good people, and good drugs.
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: AUX]
#16942757 - 10/01/12 03:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't people make their own drugs of choice? Hell I go to EDM festivals all the time and my drug of choice is acid and E cause it might as well be one drug cause of how unique the mixture feels. Also what's IDM? Is that like that ambient music stuff that puts me to sleep?
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: AUX]
#16942759 - 10/01/12 03:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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The hippies weird me out too. TBH too much niceness raises a red flag in my book the most creepy people I have ever met were really nice when I first talked to them, oddly enough the nicest people I have ever known actually came off as real assholes when I first talked to them...strange world really.
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: topdog82] 1
#16942768 - 10/01/12 03:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Every scene is fake/overrated. I think that's what makes it a scene
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: kundalini1123]
#16942770 - 10/01/12 03:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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kundalini1123 said: The hippies weird me out too. TBH too much niceness raises a red flag in my book the most creepy people I have ever met were really nice when I first talked to them, oddly enough the nicest people I have ever known actually came off as real assholes when I first talked to them...strange world really.
so true
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: acidjoint]
#16942776 - 10/01/12 03:35 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hippies are only good in moderation. Unless they give you free drugs and don't try to rape you. Then they're awesome people!
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: zhparrish]
#16942793 - 10/01/12 03:44 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Soon as the free drugs stop, the hippies stop becoming awesome in my world and I start judging them on an individual basis, if they pass the test of time then I consider said person(s) awesome people. Although I used to know this guy who wore tye dye and he had really good dope and that was kind of awesome, he would give me free shit often enough and that was awesome but as a person he wasn't very awesome.
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: kundalini1123]
#16942797 - 10/01/12 03:46 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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whatever the scene, theres always the people who are only there for the pussy and the drugs
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: kundalini1123]
#16942798 - 10/01/12 03:48 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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kundalini1123 said: Soon as the free drugs stop, the hippies stop becoming awesome in my world and I start judging them on an individual basis, if they pass the test of time then I consider said person(s) awesome people. Although I used to know this guy who wore tye dye and he had really good dope and that was kind of awesome, he would give me free shit often enough and that was awesome but as a person he wasn't very awesome.
That's always depressing. Luckily my hippy friend who gives me a lot of pot is one of my great friends and I made that judgement long before he started selling. But I see you're point, what they can give you only goes so far until you just want to not be around them anymore. More on topic, raves are pure fun and that is my opinion and no person saying "Oh raves suck now cause they're not what they used to be PLUR PLUR PLUR PLUR" and shit like that won't ever change my mind until I decide that I'm done with the rave life for one reason or another.
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: zhparrish]
#16942803 - 10/01/12 03:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Having some one who is a good friend and gives you free droogz is def win win
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: nicechrisman]
#16942809 - 10/01/12 03:57 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: whatever the scene, theres always the people who are only there for the pussy and the drugs
pussies, drugs and music I mean that's pretty much all the reason why people go there right?
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: acidjoint]
#16942818 - 10/01/12 04:06 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: whatever the scene, theres always the people who are only there for the pussy and the drugs
pussies, drugs and music I mean that's pretty much all the reason why people go there right?
Well I love the music and I love the environment and I have fun. Drugs just augment all those things. I don't need the raves to hook up with chicks so that's just a bonus if it does even happen, I usually go with a lady friend anyways so I don't need to find a random chick there.
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Re: Rave subculture is fake/overrated [Re: acidjoint]
#16942827 - 10/01/12 04:14 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you don't like it because you don't like the drugs then don't take any drugs. lol i go see music shows to be around cool people and hear and/or see music being performed. i prefer to not be tripping, and i don't really care for rolling so i don't do that anymore, when i'm going to something social where i can meet people (unless its a sort of social thing where i already know pretty much everybody, then i'll trip depending who they are as well as share what ever i'm tripping on)
tripping for me has always been more personal, and tripping during a social experience always ended up being a waste of a trip and time going to where ever it was. believe it or not good music also sound good when you not on drugs
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