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Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced?
    #16928847 - 09/28/12 07:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

So my 11 year old cousin just told me that she wants to get her belly button pierced but her parents wont let her until she turns 16.

What do you guys think about this sort of thing? do you think it is a product of the over sexualization of young women in culture and rthe media that at such young ages they are already so concerned with looking "hot" and maximizing their sex appeal? Or do you think its perfectly fine and normal for  a young girl to want to have her belly button peirced?

I asked her why she wanted to do this and she said because "it looks cute".

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Deviate]
    #16928854 - 09/28/12 07:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:shrug: Dunno man.

My ex had her belly button pierced. I asked why she did it, and she said "I think it looks pretty, I have the stomach for it, and I like the jewelry."


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: DarkElf] * 1
    #16928868 - 09/28/12 07:22 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

11 years old?  i doubt it's about sex appeal... :lol:

kids want to be cool and they will be influenced by what seems cool by their peers or media

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: DarkElf]
    #16928886 - 09/28/12 07:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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:shrug: Dunno man.

My ex had her belly button pierced. I asked why she did it, and she said "I think it looks pretty, I have the stomach for it, and I like the jewelry."





Yeah I dated a girl who had her belly button pierced too, but she basically admitted to me that she felt insecure and desperately wanted to be sexy. That is why I worry about my cousins motives, although I know there are confident chicks with high self esteem who have or want pierced belly buttons also.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Deviate]
    #16928909 - 09/28/12 07:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno, I just think it is an odd trend. I mean, 40 years ago it was pretty unheard of and now something like 1/3 of the female youth has a piece of metal stuck in her belly button.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Deviate]
    #16928925 - 09/28/12 07:31 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

And now, the trend is shifting.
Girls are getting gemstones pierced into labia and all around the vagina.

Go figure.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: 57-71]
    #16928978 - 09/28/12 07:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

WOuld you guys rather date a girl wwith or without her belly peirced? I prefer girls without just because I think it looks kinda of sleazy to be honest, but its by no means a deal breaker. I feel the same way about tattoos. I think they are kind of slutty/sleazy looking and I am more interested in modest girls when it comes to having a relationship, but I would not turn down a girl simply because she had tattoos.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: 57-71]
    #16928981 - 09/28/12 07:39 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I wasn't allowed to get my belly button pierced until I was 15 and even though my dad still shit himself, I did it. Idk why I wanted it so bad. I just like it and how it looks. I don't wear revealing clothes so that the whole world sees it but it sure looks good when I'm naked.

I have the top and bottom pierced now.

I wouldn't however, let my 11 year old get it done. I would say 15-16-17 is more appropriate but even 15 is kinda young.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: 57-71]
    #16928990 - 09/28/12 07:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

it's about sex appeal. they are not consciously aware of this, usually. it is conditioned upon them through advertising, media, etc.


am I the only one that notices girls dressing and acting for sex appeal younger and younger? like 11-15?


yeah.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929002 - 09/28/12 07:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I can't believe people actually watch that show. It'd have me walking around in circles doing some foreign Indian chant.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: YSHServant]
    #16929010 - 09/28/12 07:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

so i can lick it


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929011 - 09/28/12 07:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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it's about sex appeal. they are not consciously aware of this, usually. it is conditioned upon them through advertising, media, etc.


am I the only one that notices girls dressing and acting for sex appeal younger and younger? like 11-15?


yeah.


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No, my grandpa noticed that trend, too, before he died thirty years ago.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Hobozen]
    #16929020 - 09/28/12 07:44 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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11 years old?  i doubt it's about sex appeal... :lol:





you joking?

in the op it was said that the girl said it herself

"i think it looks cute"



@OP it is about sex appeal, is 11 too young? i'm not getting into that debate.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: YSHServant]
    #16929028 - 09/28/12 07:45 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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I can't believe people actually watch that show. It'd have me walking around in circles doing some foreign Indian chant.



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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Deviate]
    #16929037 - 09/28/12 07:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

These days, 11 year olds are wearing thongs and g-strings.  Such "sexy" underwear is now marketed at the pre-teen crowd as much as with older girls and women.  And I think it's sick.  Thongs and g-strings are not meant for comfort, they are obviously meant to show off your body to other people.  11 year olds should not be showing off their body to other people ... it's completely messed up to me that they now market and sell "sexy" underwear to 11 year old girls.

I think a belly-button piercing is far more reasonable for an 11 year old girl than "sexy" underwear, but I still think that piercing anything but your ears should be illegal until you are 18 years old, with or without the consent of parents.  "Cute" is on par with "sexy" in many girls' and womens' eyes, so I wouldn't be surprised if the 11 year old who thinks belly-button piercings are "cute" is really saying that she wants a head start on being sexy to other people.  I just don't think kids that young should be doing these things.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929039 - 09/28/12 07:47 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

11 years old is a little too young to be wanting to do those things . She was probably influenced by someone who has one . That's why she wants to get one .


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: HB]
    #16929045 - 09/28/12 07:48 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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with or without the consent of parents.




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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: k00laid]
    #16929051 - 09/28/12 07:50 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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with or without the consent of parents.




:nonono:




I just don't think that a parent's consent should mean that you can do something that you should have to wait until you are 18 years old to do early.  It's like if we allowed kids to drink alcohol if their parents gave consent :nonono:

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929062 - 09/28/12 07:51 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I would counter your graemlin with my own graemlin, but I don't know how.:shrug:

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: HB]
    #16929064 - 09/28/12 07:51 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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It's like if we allowed kids to drink alcohol if their parents gave consent :nonono:




i'm not sure if it's like this in every state.


but in kansas you can drink malt liquor with parental consent at age 16+


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: HB]
    #16929067 - 09/28/12 07:52 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think most 11 year olds have the capacity to think in that way.  I think most of them probably want a piercing because they personally like the look of them or because it's cool.  It's them starting to become their own individual and having an individual identity.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929072 - 09/28/12 07:52 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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or because it's cool.




being sexy is cool.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: HB]
    #16929078 - 09/28/12 07:53 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I think parents should have final say in what they deem appropriate for their kids until 18. My parents let me drive in their lap when I was a kid, drink beer with them underage (in europe where it was legal at my age) - societies laws/norms are relative to each other. Looking back I feel they had good judgment, I don't drink and it removed all the mystery from it as a kid and allowed me to enjoy it a bit with some supervision and good advice.


To each their own though :shrug:


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: k00laid]
    #16929088 - 09/28/12 07:54 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

It's not sexy cool though, they just think it's cool because it's a trend and their friends are doing or talking about it.  They aren't consciously trying to become sluts at that age.  It takes until 13-14 for that to happen lol.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: HB]
    #16929091 - 09/28/12 07:54 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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These days, 11 year olds are wearing thongs and g-strings.  Such "sexy" underwear is now marketed at the pre-teen crowd as much as with older girls and women.  And I think it's sick.  Thongs and g-strings are not meant for comfort, they are obviously meant to show off your body to other people.  11 year olds should not be showing off their body to other people ... it's completely messed up to me that they now market and sell "sexy" underwear to 11 year old girls.

I think a belly-button piercing is far more reasonable for an 11 year old girl than "sexy" underwear, but I still think that piercing anything but your ears should be illegal until you are 18 years old, with or without the consent of parents.  "Cute" is on par with "sexy" in many girls' and womens' eyes, so I wouldn't be surprised if the 11 year old who thinks belly-button piercings are "cute" is really saying that she wants a head start on being sexy to other people.  I just don't think kids that young should be doing these things.



yeah, I think that's all pretty fucked up too. What parent in their right mind would buy this shit for their young daughter? It's crazy that there's even a market for it.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: DarkElf]
    #16929100 - 09/28/12 07:55 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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:shrug: Dunno man.

My ex had her belly button pierced. I asked why she did it, and she said "I think it looks pretty, I have the stomach for it, and I like the jewelry."



Pretty much sums it up. It looks purteh, why the fuck not?.. besides what else are we supposed to use the navel for?


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929103 - 09/28/12 07:55 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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These days, 11 year olds are wearing thongs and g-strings.  Such "sexy" underwear is now marketed at the pre-teen crowd as much as with older girls and women.  And I think it's sick.  Thongs and g-strings are not meant for comfort, they are obviously meant to show off your body to other people.  11 year olds should not be showing off their body to other people ... it's completely messed up to me that they now market and sell "sexy" underwear to 11 year old girls.

I think a belly-button piercing is far more reasonable for an 11 year old girl than "sexy" underwear, but I still think that piercing anything but your ears should be illegal until you are 18 years old, with or without the consent of parents.  "Cute" is on par with "sexy" in many girls' and womens' eyes, so I wouldn't be surprised if the 11 year old who thinks belly-button piercings are "cute" is really saying that she wants a head start on being sexy to other people.  I just don't think kids that young should be doing these things.




I'm pretty sure g-strings and thongs are so you can't see underwear lines in tight pants... Actually the opposite of what you are suggesting.

Now I know you are refering to females who have them poppin' out when they sit down but there actually is a purpose for them.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929107 - 09/28/12 07:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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They aren't consciously trying to become sluts at that age.





you are correct.

so why belly button piercings?

why not the new cool notebook?

its belly button piercings because the entirety of our culture has been sexualized.


of course the 11 year old is not thinking about taking a dick in her pussy

but she sure is thinking about being "cute" and "impressing boys"


did ya know that the first of her friends to get a boyfriend will also be looked at as the most mature?


sex sells.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929118 - 09/28/12 07:57 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think most 11 year olds have the capacity to think in that way.  I think most of them probably want a piercing because they personally like the look of them or because it's cool.  It's them starting to become their own individual and having an individual identity.




They don't consciously think that way, but their subconscious is being imprinted with wordless messages that instill these ideas on them whether they are sexually aware/active or not. That is the nature of the system, it wants women to be sexually loose early on when their minds are like clay and they want men to be human doings not human beings. Boys are taught of their disposable nature, that without a wife/sex or money/a job to brag about/credentials/whatever they are worthless, that they must be chivalrous, etc.

They do this so a parasitic system of courts, prisons, attorneys, social programs, abortion clinics, drug companies, and so on and so on and so on, can feed off the resulting dynamic of men running in treadmills to impress/attract women and provide utility (remember, men are human doings, not human beings - women get to be human beings) illegitimate children being born, misery from the fallout, legal ramifications, and much more.

The rabbit hole goes deep

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: k00laid]
    #16929124 - 09/28/12 07:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Having a belly button is 100% useless after birth. Why do I still have one?:shrug:

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: k00laid]
    #16929125 - 09/28/12 07:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I understand and agree with what you're saying..  I think we're on the same page if you agree that it's not a conscious decision.  It's also still about the cute new notebook and pencils and whatnot at that age.  You are right though that it is all to look cool and/or more mature.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Deviate] * 1
    #16929129 - 09/28/12 08:00 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i'm down with our culture being hypersexual.

we are sexual creatures.

y'all are a buncha prudes.


not like they are stripping and shooting up heroin :rolleyes: it's a damn piercing.


YOU GUYS ARE BLAMING CULTURE FOR MAKING GIRLS WANT TO DO THIS AND SAYING THAT BELLY BUTTON PIERCINGS ARE "SEXY" AND UNACCEPTABLE BUT YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EAR PIERCINGS?

YET IT'S OUR OWN CULTURE THAT'S TELLING YOU ONE IS WRONG AND ONE IS ACCEPTABLE



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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929130 - 09/28/12 08:00 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with that statement too, JesusLord.  But still, it's not any more a reason than them trying to fit in and become their own person.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929131 - 09/28/12 08:00 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think most 11 year olds have the capacity to think in that way.  I think most of them probably want a piercing because they personally like the look of them or because it's cool.  It's them starting to become their own individual and having an individual identity.




It's a well-known fact that girls often mature before boys do, and I wouldn't be surprised if girls tend to hit puberty before boys do, as well.  If boys start getting interested in sex around age 12-13 (which is the average age when puberty hits boys), then I wouldn't be surprised if 11-12 year old girls are hitting puberty and getting interested in sex.  And many girls have moms that dress up sexy for their husband, so they probably get the idea that being sexy for the opposite sex is a good thing as early as you can possibly start.  Don't many moms put the idea of "perfect weddings" into young girls' heads?  That implies a relationship with the opposite sex, and by 11 years old everybody knows that babies are made through sex with the opposite sex, so it's no mystery to 11 year old girls what being married constitutes (sex).

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: NWlight]
    #16929135 - 09/28/12 08:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm down with our culture being hypersexual.

we are sexual creatures.

y'all are a buncha prudes.


not like they are stripping and shooting up heroin :rolleyes: it's a damn piercing.


YOU GUYS ARE BLAMING CULTURE FOR MAKING GIRLS WANT TO DO THIS AND SAYING THAT BELLY BUTTON PIERCINGS ARE "SEXY" AND UNACCEPTABLE BUT YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EAR PIERCINGS?

YET IT'S OUR OWN CULTURE THAT'S TELLING YOU ONE IS WRONG AND ONE IS ACCEPTABLE



:cookiemonster:





oh i never said it was wrong.

im just telling yall that it is indeed sexual.

whether or not 11 year olds should be sexual, i said i wouldn't bring up that part of the discussion



but cmon
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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929137 - 09/28/12 08:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: YSHServant]
    #16929148 - 09/28/12 08:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Belly button rings for girls is just a technique used for getting a mate. Other techniques include wearing make-up, getting breast implants, and getting botox for their lips.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: NWlight]
    #16929155 - 09/28/12 08:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm down with our culture being hypersexual.

we are sexual creatures.

y'all are a buncha prudes.


not like they are stripping and shooting up heroin :rolleyes: it's a damn piercing.


YOU GUYS ARE BLAMING CULTURE FOR MAKING GIRLS WANT TO DO THIS AND SAYING THAT BELLY BUTTON PIERCINGS ARE "SEXY" AND UNACCEPTABLE BUT YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EAR PIERCINGS?

YET IT'S OUR OWN CULTURE THAT'S TELLING YOU ONE IS WRONG AND ONE IS ACCEPTABLE



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Culture has made people hypersexualized though. Sure, we have sexual instincts, life has ensured its continued existence by securing these instincts - but to make them the dominant forefront and focal point of all that we do and push everything else being human is about to the peripheral is just pathetic. We are more than animals, we are humans


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929162 - 09/28/12 08:07 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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I agree with that statement too, JesusLord.  But still, it's not any more a reason than them trying to fit in and become their own person.



I agree - they are trying to fit in and what is in is increasingly becoming "mature" as early as possible, looking to girls older than themselves for cues on how to be ahead of the curve


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929166 - 09/28/12 08:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Reproduction has always been the top priority of every single living species to ever grace the earth..

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Everlong]
    #16929178 - 09/28/12 08:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...



I addressed that fact. However, we are not like other organisms. We are humans with the ability to make choices independent of our biology (see abstinence, see suicide, see self immolation). :whatyougonnado:


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929184 - 09/28/12 08:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Well I guess animals do get their belly buttons pierced, especially when they are insanely young.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929189 - 09/28/12 08:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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I agree with that statement too, JesusLord.  But still, it's not any more a reason than them trying to fit in and become their own person.



I agree - they are trying to fit in and what is in is increasingly becoming "mature" as early as possible, looking to girls older than themselves for cues on how to be ahead of the curve




Boys do the same thing, for the most part.  I know I looked up to and respected most boys that were older than me and in higher grades, and I emulated what they did (like asking girls out on a date and having sex and drinking/doing drugs and smoking cigarettes).  I'm somewhat of a hypocrite with what I said before about parental consent and piercings, because I got my lip pierced at 15 or 16 years old, and I'm sure it was an unconscious desire to be more attractive to my girlfriend and the opposite sex in general.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929193 - 09/28/12 08:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...



I addressed that fact. However, we are not like other organisms. We are humans with ability to make choices independent of our biology (see abstinence, see suicide). :whatyougonnado:



We are able to do so, but most people generally just follow their instincts instead of thinking as far into their lives and existence as a lot of people on the shroomery lol.  Especially not 11 year olds.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929201 - 09/28/12 08:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...



I addressed that fact. However, we are not like other organisms. We are humans with the ability to make choices independent of our biology (see abstinence, see suicide, see self immolation). :whatyougonnado:




Other animals can make choices independent of their biology as well, what is your point? :shrug:

And self-immolation is a form of suicide.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Everlong]
    #16929224 - 09/28/12 08:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...



I addressed that fact. However, we are not like other organisms. We are humans with the ability to make choices independent of our biology (see abstinence, see suicide, see self immolation). :whatyougonnado:




Other animals can make choices independent of their biology as well, what is your point? :shrug:

And self-immolation is a form of suicide.



They can but they don't. Only humans have conceptualized death, any other creature is only aware of pain, not death. And I'm aware self immolation is suicide - it's just an extremely painful form of it, usually done to make a statement, so it's not just about ending your life - the point I'm making is that human life is about abstract concepts like freedom and justice, honor and truth, not just sex and sperm and eggs and being jungle monkeys.  :creepylurker:


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: YSHServant]
    #16929233 - 09/28/12 08:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Belly button rings for girls is just a technique used for getting a mate. Other techniques include wearing make-up, getting breast implants, and getting botox for their lips.

Correct me if i'm wrong.




so correct.

do we allow 11 year olds to wear eye shadow?

i certainly wouldn't allow my daughter, but for other reasons


i want my daughter to fuck someone who doesnt care about makeup and belly button rings.

i dont want her to just not have sex.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #16929237 - 09/28/12 08:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...



I addressed that fact. However, we are not like other organisms. We are humans with ability to make choices independent of our biology (see abstinence, see suicide). :whatyougonnado:



We are able to do so, but most people generally just follow their instincts instead of thinking as far into their lives and existence as a lot of people on the shroomery lol.  Especially not 11 year olds.



Givem credit not everyone can be a fantastically sagacious shroomerite

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: k00laid]
    #16929267 - 09/28/12 08:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Belly button rings for girls is just a technique used for getting a mate. Other techniques include wearing make-up, getting breast implants, and getting botox for their lips.

Correct me if i'm wrong.




so correct.

do we allow 11 year olds to wear eye shadow?

i certainly wouldn't allow my daughter, but for other reasons


i want my daughter to fuck someone who doesnt care about makeup and belly button rings.

i dont want her to just not have sex.




My young cousin is 16 now and has been wearing a truly excessive amount of make-up every time I've seen her for the past 4-5 years.  The make-up definitely doesn't look good, she is overdoing it by a large margin, and I'm certain that it's always been to try to attract boys and be sexy.  She must have been influenced by her friends or older girls in her school, because her mom (my aunt) doesn't wear ANY make-up at all, and never has in the entire time I've known her.  My mom has never worn very much make-up (if any) either, so my young cousin must be being influenced by other girls she knows.  In any case, I know she is just trying to be attractive, but it's very unattractive how much make-up she puts on ... I wish her parents would tell her that and try to convince her to do her make-up more naturally if she is going to wear make-up.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: k00laid]
    #16929367 - 09/28/12 08:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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11 years old?  i doubt it's about sex appeal... :lol:





you joking?

in the op it was said that the girl said it herself

"i think it looks cute"



@OP it is about sex appeal, is 11 too young? i'm not getting into that debate.




an old acquaintance had a 7 year old daughter.  when the daughter fell on her ass, she got upset, and her mother asked why.  she replied, "i hurt my cute butt".  sex appeal?  maybe.  or cultural influence masked as sex appeal.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Hobozen]
    #16929382 - 09/28/12 08:43 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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11 years old?  i doubt it's about sex appeal... :lol:





you joking?

in the op it was said that the girl said it herself

"i think it looks cute"



@OP it is about sex appeal, is 11 too young? i'm not getting into that debate.




an old acquaintance had a 7 year old daughter.  when the daughter fell on her ass, she got upset, and her mother asked why.  she replied, "i hurt my cute butt".  sex appeal?  maybe.  or cultural influence masked as sex appeal.




I'll bet it was her own mom who first told her that she had a cute butt and put the thought into her head.  It sounds like the kind of thing a mom would say to her young daughter.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16929495 - 09/28/12 09:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...



I addressed that fact. However, we are not like other organisms. We are humans with the ability to make choices independent of our biology (see abstinence, see suicide, see self immolation). :whatyougonnado:




Other animals can make choices independent of their biology as well, what is your point? :shrug:

And self-immolation is a form of suicide.



They can but they don't. Only humans have conceptualized death, any other creature is only aware of pain, not death. And I'm aware self immolation is suicide - it's just an extremely painful form of it, usually done to make a statement, so it's not just about ending your life - the point I'm making is that human life is about abstract concepts like freedom and justice, honor and truth, not just sex and sperm and eggs and being jungle monkeys.  :creepylurker:




I said other animals can make choices outside of their natural instincts and your first sentence is "They can but they don't." :lolwut: They can and they do.

So you believe only humans can conceptualize freedom, justice, honor, and truth?

Also there are reports of animals mourning the loss of another animal.


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Everlong]
    #16929539 - 09/28/12 09:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, it must not have a single thing to do with the way our brains are wired.. Must be evil society shoving it down our throats.

Or all organisms have some sort of instinctual drive to be found attractive by potential mates...



I addressed that fact. However, we are not like other organisms. We are humans with the ability to make choices independent of our biology (see abstinence, see suicide, see self immolation). :whatyougonnado:




Other animals can make choices independent of their biology as well, what is your point? :shrug:

And self-immolation is a form of suicide.



They can but they don't. Only humans have conceptualized death, any other creature is only aware of pain, not death. And I'm aware self immolation is suicide - it's just an extremely painful form of it, usually done to make a statement, so it's not just about ending your life - the point I'm making is that human life is about abstract concepts like freedom and justice, honor and truth, not just sex and sperm and eggs and being jungle monkeys.  :creepylurker:




I said other animals can make choices outside of their natural instincts and your first sentence is "They can but they don't." :lolwut: They can and they do.

So you believe only humans can conceptualize freedom, justice, honor, and truth?

Also there are reports of animals mourning the loss of another animal.



Are there reports of animals setting themselves on fire to make political statements protesting the social conditions of their tribes? :philososloth:


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: NWlight]
    #16929814 - 09/28/12 10:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm down with our culture being hypersexual.

we are sexual creatures.

y'all are a buncha prudes.


not like they are stripping and shooting up heroin :rolleyes: it's a damn piercing.


YOU GUYS ARE BLAMING CULTURE FOR MAKING GIRLS WANT TO DO THIS AND SAYING THAT BELLY BUTTON PIERCINGS ARE "SEXY" AND UNACCEPTABLE BUT YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EAR PIERCINGS?

YET IT'S OUR OWN CULTURE THAT'S TELLING YOU ONE IS WRONG AND ONE IS ACCEPTABLE



:cookiemonster:





The difference is that ears are part of the body that is tradionallly always exposed, whereas a girl who wears shirts that display her belly button would be considered to be weary something revealing. Therefore, (and yes this is a standard defined by our culture) a girl's belly/her belly button is more of a sexual part of her body than her ears. Hence peircing it or wearing something that lets the public see her belly has sexual connotations that earrings dont. Im not necessarily saying thats bad, but i do think it can be bad for a culture to focus too much on sex, especially in kids. Exactly what a culture considers to be sexual (belly rings vs earrings or whateve else) is relative, but the culture becoming over sexualized can have real negatives.

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Deviate]
    #16929833 - 09/28/12 10:10 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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The difference is that ears are part of the body that is tradionallly always exposed, whereas a girl who wears shirts that display her belly button would be considered to be weary something revealing. Therefore, (and yes this is a standard defined by our culture) a girl's belly/her belly button is more of a sexual part of her body than her ears. Hence peircing it or wearing something that lets the public see her belly has sexual connotations that earrings dont. Im not necessarily saying thats bad, but i do think it can be bad for a culture to focus too much on sex, especially in kids.




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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: HB]
    #16929848 - 09/28/12 10:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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WOuld you guys rather date a girl wwith or without her belly peirced? I prefer girls without just because I think it looks kinda of sleazy to be honest, but its by no means a deal breaker. I feel the same way about tattoos. I think they are kind of slutty/sleazy looking and I am more interested in modest girls when it comes to having a relationship, but I would not turn down a girl simply because she had tattoos.




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I just don't think that a parent's consent should mean that you can do something that you should have to wait until you are 18 years old to do early.  It's like if we allowed kids to drink alcohol if their parents gave consent :nonono:




Uhh... some states do allow parents to give their kids booze. :shrug: In Maine it's supposed to only be in a private house with the minor's parent(s) present but obviously that gets stretched a bit. I have to say it definitely made our after-prom party safer, since we were getting drunk (*and stoned) with a responsible adult :lmafo:

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: NizzyJones]
    #16930652 - 09/29/12 01:49 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i dont know why but i just hate outie belly buttons for no real reason. they just look sick and ugly to me

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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: k00laid]
    #16930674 - 09/29/12 01:59 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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It's like if we allowed kids to drink alcohol if their parents gave consent :nonono:




i'm not sure if it's like this in every state.


but in kansas you can drink malt liquor with parental consent at age 16+




and i'm pretty sure that here in canada you are allowed to drink alchahol provided you are at home and under parental supervision. Honestly I think its a good thing, teach kids a healthy attitude towards alchahol when they are young and when they turn 18 or 19 (depending on province) they are less likely to go on a booze rampage


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
    #16930721 - 09/29/12 02:13 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Its just its a subliminal signal that they want their pussy pierced by a cock.


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    #16930731 - 09/29/12 02:16 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Its just its a subliminal signal that they want their pussy pierced by a cock.


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    #16931245 - 09/29/12 07:02 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Are there reports of animals setting themselves on fire to make political statements protesting the social conditions of their tribes? :philososloth:




Because that is the only thing humans do differently than animals? Set themselves on fire? :facepalm:


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    #16931379 - 09/29/12 08:12 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Its just its a subliminal signal that they want their pussy pierced by a cock.



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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #16931393 - 09/29/12 08:22 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

OP. Do you remember back when you were 11 and yor parents talked to you about peer pressure? You didn't believe a single word of it back then.

Now look at this, she wants to get her belly button pierced. Probably because everybody she likes has their bellybutton pierced. See how the pressure works?


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: Everlong]
    #16933146 - 09/29/12 03:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Are there reports of animals setting themselves on fire to make political statements protesting the social conditions of their tribes? :philososloth:




Because that is the only thing humans do differently than animals? Set themselves on fire? :facepalm:



Well according to you we are just like animals anyways so I guess it's all the same, humans do everything just like monkeys and hippos. Eat crap sex and sleep.


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    #16933203 - 09/29/12 03:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Well according to you we are just like animals anyways so I guess it's all the same, humans do everything just like monkeys and hippos. Eat crap sex and sleep.



I was unaware that being in the same genus or phylum means two animals have the same behavior patterns. Tell me more of this new science, Sir Bedevere. :rolleyes:


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Re: Why do so many young girls want to get their bellies peirced? [Re: NizzyJones]
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NizzyJones said:
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JesusIsLord said:
Well according to you we are just like animals anyways so I guess it's all the same, humans do everything just like monkeys and hippos. Eat crap sex and sleep.



I was unaware that being in the same genus or phylum means two animals have the same behavior patterns.




:noargument:


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