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Offlinelamik4
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Straw log in a bread bag?
    #1691542 - 07/07/03 12:36 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have read a ton about the straw logs and I'm finally have the time to venture into the log tek. I was wondering if anyone has found cheaper ways of coming about bags. Today I was in kroger and started staring at the bread bags. I tested their bag stength and they seemed like they would be able to with stand the pressure of packing in some wheat straw. Let me know if anyone has had success with any of these or other easy to come by "log like" bags!!


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: lamik4]
    #1691591 - 07/07/03 01:01 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have thought of this as well...I'm curious too see what ppl think


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: ]
    #1691806 - 07/07/03 02:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You could stuff straw in those bags that you buy generic cereal in... You can impulse seal those bags.... I'm seeing how they work for pleurotus species right now. I'd imagine after they colonize with any mycelium, they'd be a log if you tore open the bag....

I also use 12 inch zip ties to compress down the straw after the bag is spawned.


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: Terrazza]
    #1699691 - 07/09/03 03:09 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you know what....it just might be crazy enough to work... the only think i can think that could present a problem is possible contamination


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: lamik4]
    #1699897 - 07/09/03 04:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah contams you would really have to make sure you got out the trichoderma in a bread bag.


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: BleedingSickness]
    #1700047 - 07/09/03 05:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

straw dosen't contam easy tho I think you'd be ok


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: lamik4]
    #1701686 - 07/10/03 04:30 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

A foaf i knew simply tossed 1 gallon of straw with some more straw (another gallon?) into an Urban Outfitters bag he wipped the hell out of with lysol. Then he spun it shut, and tied it off and packed into in the bottle of a tupperware. Voila! great fruits a week 1/2 later...


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: ]
    #1706746 - 07/11/03 08:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

straw dosen't contam easy tho I think you'd be ok

hah!

your name suits you.

bread bags are dirty and the straw will surely poke through.

which isn't too big of a problem.

check out www.veripack.com

you can go as low as 3 mil, maybe even 2 mil.

it's an investment, but the tek is phenomenal,
results are great.

but, if you're on a budget, you can do the straw
wheels like shroomQT did in the original straw
log thread.

in which case, you just need some plastic sheeting.


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: afoaf]
    #1708806 - 07/12/03 05:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

cardboard tubes. like the kind used to hold maps. fill with straw and spawn. cap the ends. incubate. cut into cake sized segments. place in terrarium. viola.


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: afoaf]
    #1708840 - 07/12/03 05:37 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

for one thing you have no idea what my name means....for 2 all you'd have to do is flip the damn thing inside out and rinse if off with some hot water and possibly some bleach.....real tough huh? and about straw poking through....when straw is wet its considerably less tough....it might still poke through but it might be ok too...its just an idea no need for insults


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: ]
    #1714881 - 07/14/03 05:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Wouldn't a bag that ice comes in be as good ? They are bigger and have no chance of contams if you were so inclined to be worried about such a thing? also ice bags are a bit tougher , though the only part that I think is important is the size of the bag being bigger .


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: lamik4]
    #1950560 - 09/25/03 09:55 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I've just searched to see if anyone else had used this technique and found this thread !

Unsterilized bread bags work just fine !  :laugh:

I first of all transfered some Pleurotus citrinopileatus on peroxidated PSY agar to millet which had been PC'd at 16 PSI for approx 1 hour. After full colonization (8 days or so) the spawn was then added to pasturised wheat straw and packed tightly into a unsterilised plastic bread bag which was then tied with a rubber band. The bag was then stabbed multiple times and left in a incubator to colonise. After a further 7 days or so the bag was then added to a terrarium with 2 inches of hydroleca, flexible air diffusers, high power aquarium pump etc.

Here's the results so far :smile:









I fried them up in a stir fry and they were very tasty !  :grin:

 


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1952076 - 09/25/03 08:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

OVEN BAGS, OVEN BAGS, OVEN BAGS


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: cricket]
    #1952173 - 09/25/03 08:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I used to use oven bags but they ripped all the time, weak seams. I have autoclave/biohazard bags now. very tuf and a good size. baught them from a lab supplies company: 150 for $30.
Nice work Bi0TeK, very art.


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: cricket]
    #1952177 - 09/25/03 08:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Oven bags work, and you can PC them, but at least the Renolds brand lets stuff dry out even if the bag is sealed. I have to put my oven bags in trash bags!


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    #1952560 - 09/25/03 11:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: NoLogos]
    #1952565 - 09/25/03 11:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I was thinking of using a PVC pipe the size of your choice, then cutting the tube lengthwise in half. Add a hinge and latch so you can swing it open and closed. Cap off the ends and have holes drilled in PVC for air exchange. You would have the disadvantage of it not being see thru like tubing, although you could simply open your PVC periodically to check it, or would opening it be too high of a risk for contams? ... any comments on this idea? it seems like a good way for any person with access to a hardware store to start their own grow log, with a reusable container for the logs.
peace :tongue2: 


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: distortion]
    #1953384 - 09/26/03 05:13 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I have been using buckets to make paturised straw sand-castles.
That seems to be of the same vein as your idea. Easy too.


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: walk]
    #1953391 - 09/26/03 05:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I normally dont have anything to do with cubes anymore but i may wip up a bucket for a laugh. Should work well cubes being as they are.

How big of a pvc pipe were you thinking?
You could use the click on lid plastic boxes from K-mart etc. they would serve your purpose but with less fuckin about.
The hinged do-da would be impressive though.


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Re: Straw log in a bread bag? [Re: walk]
    #1953424 - 09/26/03 05:43 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

walk said:Nice work Bi0TeK, very art. 




Thanks Walk  :smile:

There were actually loads more developing brackets but a rather inquisitive cat managed to knock it off a table !

Wow, those are nice looking fruits ! What strain of oyster is that ? 


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