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Any mescaline containing cacti in these PICS? * 1
    #1691425 - 07/06/03 09:55 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Took these at a local nursery. Do any of them have the good stuff?




And two locusts fucking as a bonus pic.


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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1693184 - 07/07/03 01:19 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure a good portion of those have alkaloids, like for example the second pic, bottom right corner..that cactus has something like 4-hydroxy-phenethylamine. Do they have the latin names? if so just look for trichocereus anything..

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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1693678 - 07/07/03 03:55 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see any san pedro's there, but I'm no cacti expert :smirk:
try to post this in the garden forum because there are people who might be able to identify them.

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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1693698 - 07/07/03 04:06 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

it doesn't look like it. why don't you just ask the nursery-person if they have San Pedro in stock? the technical name of what you'll be able to commonly find is: Trichocereus Pachanoi (San Pedro), or Trichocereus Peruvianus (Peruvian Torch). hope that helps.

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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1693833 - 07/07/03 05:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

No, theres nothing good there. Looks like all the walmarts in my town.

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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1693845 - 07/07/03 05:05 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i dunno bout san pedros but possibly peruvian torches, not too sure though. and those appear to be ciccadas, not locus


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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: Eightball]
    #1693986 - 07/07/03 06:07 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I thought the blue colored ones with the spines that were around 1-1.5 inches apart may have been Peruvian Torches. Not really sure though. And no, none of them had any names and the guys there that I asked, gave me a look like they had just finshed up a 1/5 of Drano. Absolutely clueless.

About the locusts, maybe your right. I was always told they were locusts growing up. They were everywhere yesterday.


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Re: Any mescaline containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1694426 - 07/07/03 08:29 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Those're cicadas, not locusts.  Locusts are just big grasshoppers.  :smile: 


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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1694462 - 07/07/03 08:44 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)




I really dont know that much about cacti.....but heres my couple cents worth :smile:

Im sure there are a couple more Myrtillocactus spp. than i pointed out....and those guys that sort of resemble torches, wasnt sure about them.........


 









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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: DazedSol]
    #1695522 - 07/08/03 03:25 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The only one that remsembles my Torch is the red dot on the bottom, second from the left.


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Re: Any mescaline containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1696223 - 07/08/03 11:42 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

You really need to be looking for a specific species instead of looking at many cacti for the right kind. Just look up some of the pics of mescaline-containing cacti and compare. BTW, that looks more like a locust molting.

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Re: Any mescaline containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: TinMan]
    #1696977 - 07/08/03 04:27 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I know, I went in looking for San Pedro, and figured they would have them labeled. But no, and tehn there were so many different types I just decided to let the "experts" weigh in.

And, I assure you they were mating. When they molt, their back splits open and that is where they come out.


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Re: Any mescaline containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #1701540 - 07/10/03 12:33 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Really hard to tell from the pict?s..but it seems that there isnt any Pedros or Lophophora?s in the pictures.

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Re: Any mescalines containing cacti in these PICS? [Re: DazedSol]
    #1701795 - 07/10/03 04:30 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The ugly red one, is for sure a Gymnocalycium http://images.google.nl/images?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=gymnocalycium&sa=N&tab=wi&lr=


From: http://www.cactus-mall.com/mss/#28
Gymnocalycium spp.
Twenty-six species of this South American genus have been found to contain mescaline, the highest concentrations being between 0.001% to 0.0001% by fresh weight from G. calochlorum, G. comarapense, G. horridispinum, G. netrelianum, G. riograndense, G. striglianum, G. uebelmannianum, G. valnicekianum, and G. vatteri.

The majority of alkaloid studies have been conducted under the direction of Dr. Roman ?tarha at the University of Ostrava, Czech Republic, using plants cultivated in Europe. It would be interesting to determine if wild plants from South America would produce results similar to plants cultivated in a distinctly foreign environment.

Many Gymnocalycium species bear a striking morphological similarity to Lophophora, as do a small number of Copiapoa and Frailea, other South American taxa. Such similarities are likely only superficial. Representatives of Copiapoa or Frailea have yet to receive chemical study.

A more thorough examination of the medicinal use of cacti in South America should be undertaken in haste. Unfortunately the aboriginal populations of the Andes have been so thoroughly influenced by European culture and religion, even more so than the people of the Sierras of Mexico, that the majority of ancient Andean medicinal knowledge surrounding cacti is forever lost.


Is it worth? :oogle:
I'd take a couple of myrtillocactus for future grafting projects :heartpump:
Even if you're not planning to grow Lophophora, you could use it to graft Trichocereus aureoles on it and getting new pups :thumbup:




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