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    #16870146 - 09/18/12 05:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I wanted to create a thread for all those Shroomery members who are active fly
fishermen/women. A place to talk about gear, fly patterns, biology, reading water, and of
course a place to share pictures of recent catches.

I started my fly fishing journey around 4 months ago and have spent way to much money
and time in a short period. I am already tying my own flies, constantly planning
adventures and trips to local river systems, and reading every fly fishing book and
magazine I can get my hands on. Here are some pictures of my tying desk and its
evolution...this happened only over the three months that I have been tying:

It Starts:



The Obsession grows:


Full Blown Addiction:


I will post a few patterns I have tied to this thread at a later time, for now I am curious who
else out in Shroomery land has been hooked by the fly fishing bug?

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16871617 - 09/18/12 09:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Been tying since 5th grade.  My room became heaps of hackles and skins.  Kept getting hooks stuck in my feet.  Got to a point where I tied all the flies I needed for a decade.  Now I just do a couple dozen up before a trip.  Also tamed the mess and Got it all in a traveling case.  Funny how hackles went up when girls started using them in their hair.

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: SheikCorp]
    #16871712 - 09/18/12 10:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i personally don't usually use a fly rod unless im wading. but i do enjoy tying my own flies.

here is some advice on how to best catch your fish though. i have a tacklebox with all different types of simple bait with different colors. most all types of fish will like the same shiny parts, or the same jigglers or spinners however color preference changes from water system to water system. but the color preference can change. Here's how i go about figuring it out.

so if you find a good spot. my best advice would be to try a few different types of flies. see what you get some hits on. because diff shapes and textures also play a roll. after you find that, figure out which color they like. (i always take my fly tying box with me when i go on trips) then after you find out those two things, make a fly or two that fits the situation on the spot.

my setup that i typically use for trout fishing is:

ultra lite casting rods (1/250th of an oz - 30/250ths of an oz) because these are light, portable, and they can get those really light weight things out where you need them (you might like fly rods better but i just have good aim with the more traditional type)

i also have several ultra light spinner reels, and a few light bait caster reels. i like these because you can easily aim your cast with your rod and stop'n'drop the bait where it needs to go.

i typically use 2-6lb test fluorocarbon fishing line. it is more expensive but i typically fish for trout in spring fed spring systems so you need stealth. and fluorocarbon has the same light refraction as water so it turns invisible under water.

in the way of bait i like to use flies and you always have to try diff reeling speeds and jerks because it takes JUST the right one for them to hit it. otherwise they'll just look the other way. so find what works for you! the colors i have found to work well are white, yellow, orange and light greenish/brown.

if i'm feeling lazy ill travel up to the power bait section and put a split shot weight 2-4 ft up the line from a size 10-12 short hook with a powerbait ball on it (the reason for the hooks is you can completely conceal the hook inside the power bait, but you must position it so that the sharp tip of the hook is BARELY sticking out for it to be effective) then you just cast out to a good spot where you feel fish would hide. make sure the power bait is floating in the middle to bottom of the stream and wait for a fish to swallow it.

~~~IMPORTANT~~~ only use the above method if you intend to clean and eat the fish. because they will swallow it. and to get it out you either usually rip up their insides or stick the hook in them and snap the line. you will loose some hooks this way but you can get most of them back when you clean the fish :wink: just be sure to not let the stomach slip away from you! i have gotten many a nice fly for free and several of mine back from checking whats inside trouts stomachs :P

hope this helps some of you! take care :smile:


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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: geckomage]
    #16875798 - 09/19/12 04:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I shifted towards fly fishing from ultra light spin casting for pan fish and bass...I figured
that it was time to start tossing even lighter imitations and see what happened. I did not
really think much about fishing for trout or other species at the time...but after catching
several hundred pan fish I got the hunger for catching new species. Some great information
and tips gecko!

I am about to have a shower and then sit down at the tying bench to spin a few up...may post
some pictures if I remember:thumbup:

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16876661 - 09/19/12 07:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Fresh Water Shrimp (Scud):



Hook: Mustad Size 10 Scud
Thread: Brown 6/0
Body: Grey Scud Dubbing
Back: Swiss Straw


Scud:



Hook: Size 14 Mustad Scud
Body: Grey Scud Dubbing
Shell: Thin Skin
Ribbing: Small Copper Wire
Antennae: Crawfish hen feather

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16896458 - 09/23/12 09:44 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

:billymaythumbup:
:popcorn:

nice setup btw you went all out!

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #16897101 - 09/23/12 12:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I am an all or nothing kind of guy...can get expensive lol.

Right now I am trying to acquire a Red Fox pelt so I can keep tying foxee clousers...they are deadly
for small mouth and have hooked into but not landed a few large browns with them...a pelt would
allow me to tie thousands I would figure over the years.

Will hopefully have some time to tye this week, will share it with you all. Trout season
closes in 7 days around my area...think I am going to call in sick to work for a day and get out
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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16903939 - 09/24/12 05:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

12-14" Brown caught on a size 16 griffiths gnat:


Caught on a size 16 scud nymphed through a foam line:


These fish below I caught using a size 16 freshwater shrimp (scud) fly I showed above. It
was deadly for the little guys today, I stopped taking pictures after the first few but hooked
into 7-8 within 10 minutes:



I downsized today to a 5X leader and 6X tippet (2.6lb test). The difference was HUGE to say
the least. I was hooking into a lot more fish, had an easier time getting a natural drift
and it appeared to increase the amount of fish that took an interest in my fly. I have
been trying to focus on presentation more and more...and after today I feel like I am finally
getting some techniques and methods down...it was a blast. The first fish of the day was the
larger brown on a size 16 griffiths gnat. I watched it rise, take the fly and dart back
into the depths. As it turned its head I set the hook. It was a good little fight and such
a beautiful fish. I had a blast today and look forward to at least one more before the
season ends.

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16907301 - 09/25/12 09:44 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

am headed to our annual fall fish-in...is a group of flyfisherman in BC that gather 2 times a year...spring is the family trip....fall is for the adults...our Saturday evening dinner usually has 100-150 fisherman/woman who get pretty rowdy...never a cross word...while I fish a bit on these trips, its more about catchin' up with old friends and making new ones....all the while swilling Fireball and beer...and of course sharing my harvests...we have cops, lawyers, doctors, rednecks...and then there is me....hehehe...nice tying station 666...I got out of fishing for about 25 years...but am in full-on fish mode the past 8 years...enjoy your new hobby!!!


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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: mojoganjaman]
    #16907883 - 09/25/12 11:39 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

That sounds like a great time mojo. I have just started looking into the different fly fishing
seminars and events. I am going to a HUGE event in the coming weeks..its an all weekend event
and should be lots of fun...hope to get a wicked prize from the raffle they are holding.

I also signed up for an upcoming fishing clinic...reasonably priced, get to learn lots about
steelhead and then head out onto the water with the instructor to actually catch some steelhead.

It is an obsession that has hooked me as deep as growing edible and medicinal mushrooms... I
have a feeling it is only going to get worse lol. If you ever want to swap patterns, fly tying
materials or finished flies let me know brother.

P.S what are you getting into fishing for this fall?

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16909459 - 09/25/12 03:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I did not end up getting out today...but I did get a chance to spend a few hours at the tying bench, here are some black beautys and RS2's.




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    #16911467 - 09/25/12 09:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

don't wanna burst your bubble....but steelhead are not nick-named "the fish of a thousands casts" for nothing...took me 3 years of weekend trips to get my first....but what a rush.... hook one and you will be back...as for my targets this fall...its all about stillwater rainbow....good hunting....:wink:))


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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: mojoganjaman]
    #16912671 - 09/26/12 01:41 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah its really frustrating you can see HUGE fish jumping in you face and your smacking them on the nose with everything in your box cast after cast. :banghead: but then that one perfect cast BAM you fucking reels screaming! I really feel like the only reason the bite is you pissed them off enough. Of course once you hook it its really a coin flip if you'll land him. Especially with barbless hooks and whatnot. Slack the line for a second and one head shake and hes off. They jump too and your usually landing a huge fish on angel hair line. But landing one has to be one of the best experiences angling has to offer. Of course alotta days I'm just happy to get a hook up. It's really hit or miss some days they bite like crazy otherdays they're really tight lipped. Weather I think plays a huge part along with fly size and color but like I said somedays...:banghead:

listen to everything the guide says man they no the fish prob better than the fish. They have learned from many many hours of experience.

Nice flys too I can tell your honing the craft.

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #16916104 - 09/26/12 05:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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don't wanna burst your bubble....but steelhead are not nick-named "the fish of a thousands casts" for nothing...took me 3 years of weekend trips to get my first....but what a rush.... hook one and you will be back...as for my targets this fall...its all about stillwater rainbow....good hunting....:wink:))




We will have to see...I may have hooked into two already this year, can not be certain as I did not land them. Within a 4 hour drive from where I live steelhead are very very active
and I honestly thought that several could be caught in an outing on a good day. Here is a
a video of steelhead fishing in a river that is about 3-4 hours away from me:



We will have to see how I do at the clinic...I have the next day off so will be going back
out to the same spot to try again while things are still fresh.

Quote:

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Yeah its really frustrating you can see HUGE fish jumping in you face and your smacking them on the nose with everything in your box cast after cast. :banghead: but then that one perfect cast BAM you fucking reels screaming! I really feel like the only reason the bite is you pissed them off enough. Of course once you hook it its really a coin flip if you'll land him. Especially with barbless hooks and whatnot. Slack the line for a second and one head shake and hes off. They jump too and your usually landing a huge fish on angel hair line. But landing one has to be one of the best experiences angling has to offer. Of course alotta days I'm just happy to get a hook up. It's really hit or miss some days they bite like crazy otherdays they're really tight lipped. Weather I think plays a huge part along with fly size and color but like I said somedays...:banghead:

listen to everything the guide says man they no the fish prob better than the fish. They have learned from many many hours of experience.

Nice flys too I can tell your honing the craft.





You always have a way of conveying the excitement and energy that fishing brings out in
the serious angler. I cannot wait to get out on the river for steelhead...I have a feeling
it will be a productive day. Will be taking notes during the lesson, and then trying to
get down the techniques and methods. The guide told me to tie up egg sucking leaches from
size 6 down to 2/0 and that is all I will need to get started. He is going to go over
different streamers and flies at the course and I get the feeling we will all have a few
to add to our boxes.

I wish I had more time to tie...trying to do a few every day is pretty hard with my work
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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16917137 - 09/26/12 08:44 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Nice to see other fishermen here. I never realized all these New sub forums  were here.i
approve!!!  I've been fly fishing for about nine years here in Maine. i fish for brook trout,rainbow trout and landlocked salmon. my brother and i like to head to the mountains and camp in remote locations. the fishing is superb. last two years we've enjoyed  bringing san Pedro and changa . love me some camping in Maine.


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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: Lifted1]
    #16917335 - 09/26/12 09:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Glad to see a familiar face, and even more glad to hear of a common obsession....I mean interest;-)

Sounds like a good time out in the wilderness camping and fishing...my kind of party minus the
mind altering substances, but to each their own;-)

Do you tie your own flies brother?

I have pondered the idea of trying to get a Shroomery Fly Swap together...3-10 people...however
many are interested get together, agree on a certain class or style of fly be it dry, wet, nymph,
streamer, caddis, etc. and tie up the same number of flies as their are members of the swap. Then
all members send the entries to the swap master and he takes one of each, repackages them and
ships them on to each member. I think its a great idea and gets the creative juices flowing..if
anyone is interested let me know and we can see if its worth doing.

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16917428 - 09/26/12 09:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Well, when I first started fly fishing I got my feet wet ( har har )a little with tying. But I have so many hobbies, and so little time. I own a business, I have a 9 year old daughter, softball, snowboarding, golf, motorcycle, music... I just only have so much room in my life for time consuming hobbies. These days though, I am sort of getting the tying bug back a little bit. I would definitely be interested in a swap if I ever get my ass into gear and start tying again. I need a bigger house, with a big man cave where I can close my god dam door.. lol


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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: Lifted1]
    #16917488 - 09/26/12 09:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I understand totally...I have the same issues minus the daughter...for now at least lol.

Between my crazy work hours, my small business, family, and other oddball hobbies it can be
hard to find time to fish yet alone tie flies to fish. I have throttled back with growing edible
and medicinal mushrooms to take on learning about fly fishing and tying...I go through tunnel
vision obsessions for years at a time...and can at times neglect other responsibilities and whatnot
in order to be able to partake in the hobby or current obsession...I am only human I suppose lol.

If you ever get around to tying, need some materials to get back in the game, or just want a few
flies to fish let me know...would love an excuse to tie a few more flies, and seeing others catch
fish on them is just as thrilling as catching them myself.

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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #16917520 - 09/26/12 09:41 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

EvilMushroom666 said:

I go through tunnel
vision obsessions for years at a time...and can at times neglect other responsibilities and whatnot
in order to be able to partake in the hobby or current obsession...I am only human I suppose lol.






I am exactly like this.




Quote:

EvilMushroom666 said:


If you ever get around to tying, need some materials to get back in the game, or just want a few
flies to fish let me know...would love an excuse to tie a few more flies, and seeing others catch
fish on them is just as thrilling as catching them myself.




And now I'm like this:
:ohboycomputer:


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Re: Fly Fishing & Tying [Re: Lifted1]
    #16923424 - 09/27/12 09:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Some Pheasant Tail Nymphs I tied up tonight...not my best work but I am sure they will catch
fish.

The pattern is from Charlie Cravens Basic Fly Tying:

Size 20 hook:



My ties for tonight sizes: 12,14,14,16,18,20:


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