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KenoCore
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Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone
#16884207 - 09/21/12 12:53 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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So if you haven't noticed by the topic I do RC never done real LSD never done real Molly. and only have done Shrooms twice.
Before i ask my question i would just like to inform you how far i have gone with these drugs to help give you an idea of where i want to go now. included is the max amount i have done at one time and how many times roughly.
2cb: 20mg Nasal (3x) 2ce: 40mg ingested (2x) 2cp: 30mg Nasal(10+x) Shrooms: 8th ingested (2x) 25b: 600MiG ingested(1x) Methylone: 300mg ingested (prolly 60x )
I have been experimenting with psychedelics for around 8 months now to help find myself and inner peace. so I am looking for spiritual. So my Question for you more experienced fellow friends I simply ask what would be a good route to go now to get the ultimate spiritual experience? Not asking you to advocate anything just asking from experinces what worked best for you.
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: KenoCore]
#16884362 - 09/21/12 01:59 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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If your looking for spiritual, maybe you should meditate and not use drugs to get you there? I planned the next time I smoke, I will sit and meditate until I can see objects with my mind, get into the bi neural state, then take my hit, I think that would be an ultimate escape into my spiritual mind.
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: Methodology]
#16884392 - 09/21/12 02:10 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have meditated many times and it does help but i can not get past certain walls i guess you could say. I have blocked out both Visual and Auditory for hours and sat comfortably. didn't even think just let my mind and body go where it wants. it is very insightful but as previously said there are certain walls I can not get past going the sober path.
EDIT: I have actually gone into some pretty weird states of mind such as staring at a red cup that was upside down and tried to trick my mind and eyes into thinking it was right side up. after 3hrs nothing :l
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: KenoCore]
#16884433 - 09/21/12 02:21 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try binaural beats, I meditated with only them and saw full dreams while I was awake, it was like I could see my dream with my eyes, but my eyes were closed, its pretty fucking trippy if you can break the threshold. For me, it starts as closing your eyes and it being black, audio doesn't matter, earplugs would help your visual concentration. Concentrate on anything you see, it may take a long time (some people can't meditate for this reason), I will usually see a square or a fractal image, and will just go with it, don't try and single it out, just let it do its thing, eventually with enough practice you can concentrate on the object and it will become more graphic thus letting you climb deeper into your mind. I got to the point where it was like I was on DMT, but I was only listening to sound and had a blindfold on, with absolutely no drugs in my system. Pairing a fairly psychedelic compound with this, would ultimately be my form of spiritual expansion, being in this state of mind, then propelled into the abyss. Imagine if someone outright just smokes DMT and breaks through, what would this be like I wonder?
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: Methodology]
#16884445 - 09/21/12 02:24 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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By "binaural beats" do you mean like idosing? where you put headphones in and each headphone releases a different frequency of sound? or just a simple beat such as 1 beat 2 beat 3 beat 1 beat 2 beat 3 beat etc etc etc?
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: KenoCore]
#16884478 - 09/21/12 02:32 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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actually yeah, but I just used Youtube Binaural beats with playlists, this was before iDosing. I actually got those, but never find the time to use them, had a OBE on them one time. Its more direct with those ones, you can achieve pretty much what your after, you can actually choose what waves you want to listen to, I listened to mine for about 2 consecutive hours. It is kinda boring waiting, and time doesn't exist while you listen, so imo it really feels similar to a psychedelic drug cause you wait for something to happen and time feels like it doesn't exist (DMT/Salvia). Hell if you haven't tried Salvia, you should try it, I can recollect the crazy shit I've seen on those short trips, but its not but can be enjoyable to witness.
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: KenoCore]
#16884487 - 09/21/12 02:33 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: JonnyDeformed]
#16884524 - 09/21/12 02:41 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I shall def give this form of meditation a try again Idosing never really gave me and really help. and I have wanted to try Salvia but by the time I was ready to try it. it had been made illegal to purchase. But i have been on occasions searching for it.
JD: care to explain what aMT was like from your experinces? although i do always go to Erowid if i ever need any information i would find an actual forum discussion a bit better suited to finding exactly what i am searching for.
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: KenoCore]
#16884575 - 09/21/12 03:03 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh oh, get some tagetes lucida, make some tea with it, it causes you to have CEV's, its pretty awesome.
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: KenoCore]
#16885160 - 09/21/12 07:39 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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You strike me as a drug addict. Just saying.
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: KenoCore]
#16885185 - 09/21/12 07:49 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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try mescaline
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: Methodology]
#16885346 - 09/21/12 08:30 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Methodology said: Try binaural beats, I meditated with only them and saw full dreams while I was awake, it was like I could see my dream with my eyes, but my eyes were closed, its pretty fucking trippy if you can break the threshold. For me, it starts as closing your eyes and it being black, audio doesn't matter, earplugs would help your visual concentration. Concentrate on anything you see, it may take a long time (some people can't meditate for this reason), I will usually see a square or a fractal image, and will just go with it, don't try and single it out, just let it do its thing, eventually with enough practice you can concentrate on the object and it will become more graphic thus letting you climb deeper into your mind. I got to the point where it was like I was on DMT, but I was only listening to sound and had a blindfold on, with absolutely no drugs in my system. Pairing a fairly psychedelic compound with this, would ultimately be my form of spiritual expansion, being in this state of mind, then propelled into the abyss. Imagine if someone outright just smokes DMT and breaks through, what would this be like I wonder?
This is very interesting, I've done this many times but with the help of music. I found that Music helps as a catalyst with my meditation and in combination with cannabis. I can achieve some of these fractal images simply by getting high, and listening to, lets say, The Wall by PF. You will have some profound experiences for sure...
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Re: Where to go after 2cp,25b,2cb,2ce,methylone [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#16900228 - 09/23/12 11:38 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say I am a drug addict. I would say I like the "using of drugs". for example i hate getting high from pot but I love smoking it. But if I could just meditate and not use drugs at all and still reach the same point that I would with drugs. I would rather go the sober route. But as of so far not going to well =p
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