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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695329 - 07/08/03 01:39 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

an 8 year old kid told me he hated money..
because i told him we couldn't hang out because i had to work the next day..
He asked me why can't everything be free..
I didn't have an answer..

I think I used to ask the same question..
strange..


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695392 - 07/08/03 02:08 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Surely that would be acting peacefully without greed?


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695485 - 07/08/03 03:09 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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Surely that would be acting peacefully without greed?



Nope.


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695508 - 07/08/03 03:20 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

So it would be greedy and unpeaceful? Sounds like the world we live in now. You are a little bit mixed up arent you?


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695540 - 07/08/03 03:33 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Where did you see me say that?

I like peace. I have no problem with greed.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695564 - 07/08/03 03:50 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

You have no problem with greed? So you think its ok for people to take more than they need at the expenese of the welfare of others?


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695568 - 07/08/03 03:53 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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You have no problem with greed? So you think its ok for people to take more than they need at the expenese of the welfare of others?



Take? No.
Pay for or earn? Damn right.

If you work harder or do a more dangerous or difficult job, you deserve whatever you can get.


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695676 - 07/08/03 06:05 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

but thats not the way it works Luvvie is it?

Do you think it is ok for thousands to starve as an indirect affect of western economic policy?


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695685 - 07/08/03 06:17 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

If that's why they were starving.... no.

Mostly they starve because their leaders are fuckheads.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695701 - 07/08/03 06:33 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I agree that plays apart. Thats for them to sort out though. But can you honestly say, hand on your heart (I realise I am making assumptions toward your possesion of said organ!) that we in the west have not in any way shape or form made their (the people, not the leaders/fuckheads) situation worse and have also done all we can to help?


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695707 - 07/08/03 06:36 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

All we can? No.

Far more than we should? Yes.

I have no desire to my tax dollars spent anywhere but here. And even here too much is spent.

I would have thought my stance on aid to anyone was pretty clear by now.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695716 - 07/08/03 06:43 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Its not about tax dollars its about unfair trade, currency speculation, subsidised imports etc etc. Try thinking a bit more globally luvvie. Youre so 20th century sometimes you know!


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695719 - 07/08/03 06:46 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

By the way who is defining this mythical "should" that you mention? Im picturing a hunched up, wild eyed loon with an eldritch laugh drinking champagne from a babies skull counting piles of money made off the suffering of innocents.

Shit thats not you is it luvvie?!


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695724 - 07/08/03 06:49 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

You have a strange way of looking at things.

If the countries think the trade is unfair, then they don't have to trade.

If currency speculation is legal, so be it.

And subsidised imports are what we here in the US suffer from. They shouldn't be allowed here. Frankly, there should be no subsidised products anywhere. And there should be no subsidies to individuals.

All should make it on their own or starve.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1695748 - 07/08/03 07:03 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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And subsidised imports are what we here in the US suffer from.




Yeah my heart is bleeding right now! Its not just the US who "suffer" (thats some funny shit) from this problem.

Basically you dont really care about anything outside the US and you wouldnt be willing to consider any changes in your lifestyle to help save lives in far flung places or maybe the planet. Nice outlook..


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1695766 - 07/08/03 07:11 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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Basically you dont really care about anything outside the US


I wish them no harm and don't mind giving a helping hand after a disaster such as floods or earthquakes. Even that is not a valid use of tax dollars. Private donations only thanks.


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and you wouldnt be willing to consider any changes in your lifestyle to help save lives in far flung places or maybe the planet.



True enough. Any changes I would make would be of no help. The earth is in little danger. Changes will come as they become necessary.


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Nice outlook..



Works for me.


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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1696500 - 07/08/03 01:49 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
If that's why they were starving.... no.

Mostly they starve because their leaders are fuckheads.





Greedy fuckheads.

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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: hongomon]
    #1696813 - 07/08/03 03:33 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Or just ideologically motivated fuckheads like in North Korea and Zimbabwe.

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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1696850 - 07/08/03 03:45 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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yet for some reason choose to live in, capitalism




Yeah, eastern block countries didn't pollute. Go visit the Ukraine and get back to me.

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Re: Does anyone else realise how were ruining the world? [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1696867 - 07/08/03 03:50 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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Rhizoid said:
Or just ideologically motivated fuckheads like in North Korea and Zimbabwe.
   




Greedy ideologically motivated fuckheads.

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