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InvisibleArmFromTheAbyss
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Need advice for higher dose trips
    #1688636 - 07/05/03 09:07 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I just obtained a lot of shrooms recently. I took some last nite so I feel I know what these particular shrooms are like. I've tripped many times, but never more than an 8th.

I want to experience a high dose shroom trip. I have roughly 4.5 grams stashed away for the right day. I had just recently had my heart really broken. I feel like I'm over it now, but not completely. My trip last nite reflected to me that I'm not fully over it. I kept it relatively cool although at parts I felt completely hopeless. Not just in my life but I lost hope in existence. It's hard to bring back that feeling now and type about it. I snapped out of it when my friends came over and ceased my loneliness after the peak.

So this high dose trip I want to do right. I know not to take them till I'm completely over all my bullshit. But I'm aprehensive. Some shroom trips give me a sense of overwellmedness when I'm close to the peak. This feeling usually passes after a little while and I get into the trip. I'm talking about the high basically, not necessarily the thoughts. I'm not sure if you know what I'm talking about. But I'm afraid I'll go insane at that point if I take 4.5 g's.

Last nite when I was at this point I was nearly incapacitated. I was sitting against my door feeling really weak. After a while I could get up and go outside. What I took last nite was probably a little more than half the pile I've got stocked away. It's hefty.

My question is how do you deal with it on high doses? I hope that question isn't unanswerable. Is there something different/special about high dose trips? How can you tell your really ready for such an intense experience? I'd appreciate it if you guys could share some of your experiences with high doses, especially your first one. Or any advice for someone going into this.


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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1688717 - 07/05/03 09:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

>>I know not to take them till I'm completely over all my bullshit.

For some people that doesn't happen until death.  You might want to just wait til you have better reactions to that particular situation.  :smile:

>>But I'm afraid I'll go insane at that point if I take 4.5 g's.

To go in with anxiety over "what if's" makes it doubly anxious should those things arise.  You should realize that no matter what you do experience, you know it will end and your trip will smooth out.  Finding your dose can take a few hit-and-miss trips.  Better to err on the side of less than more.  :smile:  Ya just gotta remind yourself that you're fine when things get intense.  They may be annoying at times...but if you don't fear/reject the experience, but allow yourself to relax and simply ride it out in a good way (finding something cool about how it's hitting you or just thinking about why it's making you worry or fearful...a lot of times it'll stop and you'll feel fine) you can still enjoy it.

I even had a moment tonight of overwhelmed-ness.  I had a buddy driving through town who stopped by and he had some hash.  It was the first time I've smoked since this past October.  Being so clean from such a long break, and having as good a hash as he did, my come-up and first 30 minutes were like shrooms more than hash.  I was literally tripping for a bit.  :smile:  I was like..."wow, I'm outta practice."  :smile:  As soon as I laughed at the comment, I realized I had just forgotten how fast/harsh hash can hit you.  As soon as I stopped worrying about it (the only time I've ever had a bad "trip" was off some really good weed 2 years ago...had a panic attack) I was "back in the zone."  :smile:  So even those of us at this for several years still have moments where we can be surprised.  :smile:  I can add, happily, it was nice to be stoned again.  :smile:  hehe

Love & Light,

Boppity


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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: Boppity604]
    #1688780 - 07/05/03 10:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: RANKSRAGGY68]
    #1688856 - 07/05/03 11:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

For me it's been my meditation (sober practices) that helps me deal with anxiety and other destructive emotions in my life.  That's part of the reason why I don't like it when a psychedelic can induce states that I try to avoid.  hehe  :smile:

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Boppity


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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: Boppity604]
    #1688878 - 07/05/03 11:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

boppity you reminded me of the most successful method I've experienced to stop panic, be it while high or tripping. Each time I start to get that "fear," if I was able to step outside of the thought process for a second and laugh at my own paranoia/unnecesary fear, it dissolved into laughter and happiness. Then the fact that I was able to so completely change my mood would make me even more happy.


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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1688971 - 07/05/03 11:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think once you've tripped for a couple times, you get a sense for how your body and mind will react. However, with higher dose trips the anxiety and fear associated with your state of mind before you trip high doses will most often materialize in the trip in a negative way. I definitely reccomend having a sitter and/or trip in the day time with your first high dose trip. Remember that with higher trips you will likely think of the negative sides of your life, where your headed in your spiritual path, at some some point you may even think that the mushrooms are in fact growing you. But it will end and afterwards you will have a better sense of who you are and where you are headed. Be responsible and safe.


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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: soochi]
    #1689798 - 07/06/03 11:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

>>if I was able to step outside of the thought process for a second and laugh at my own paranoia/unnecesary fear, it dissolved into laughter and happiness.

It really is that simple... :smile:  My one buddy in Detroit always teases me and calls me a "retarded 5-year old" when I used to trip.  :smile:  That'll best explain how I would handle intense moments...if you just step back mentally, realize what's happening to you, you just have to laugh.  :smile:

Love & Light,

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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: Boppity604]
    #1689917 - 07/06/03 01:09 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome. Thanks for all the advice so far.
I need to get back in touch with the positive.  :laugh:   


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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1691555 - 07/07/03 12:41 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Go to the toy store and buy lots of bubbles. I always find blowing bubbles to be very relaxing no matter how intense the trip. It is such an innocent and child-like thing to do.

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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: RANKSRAGGY68]
    #1692575 - 07/07/03 10:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think that a lot of "child like" things are so enjoyable during a trip simply because it helps remind us of how life was when we were younger; when our minds had fewer stressors and simply could be more "in the now" with everything we did.  We're still children at heart...I think psychedelics are a good tool into tapping our innocence in that regard...to strip away enough ego attachment for us to simply ponder at the world again as we once did as children...it's a good thing.  :smile:

In college we joked about adult-sized toys for tripping parties...my three favorites I would love to make/see would be:

1. Sit-and-Spin
2. Mickey Mouse Bouncing Balls (the ones you sat on and hopped around on)
3. The Playskool(tm) Bubbling Push Lawnmower

Also, the next time you plan on having a trip party, go to the pet store and buy about $20 worth of kitten/cat toys.  Place them on a table and don't let anyone at them til you're all tripping.  :smile:  You'll be gone for hours.  :smile:

Love & Light,

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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: Boppity604]
    #1692690 - 07/07/03 12:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

There was a generic sort of bouncing ball that came with a simple attached circle on it. It was called a Hoppity Hop. It was essential kid gear along with a bigwheel and a GI JOE with kung fu grip.

At the University of Texas in Austin there is a big fountain in a depression by the LBJ library. If you go to the rim of the depression on top of the hill there is a sidewalk that has round tables. If you sit on the bench and grab one side of the table and pull it feels as though you are "spinning the earth." If you have something in your system to help out it really feels like a giant sit and spin. Really nifty. There is a whole UT campus trip tour that you can take, as shown to afof by someone he knew.

-RR68


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Re: Need advice for higher dose trips [Re: RANKSRAGGY68]
    #1692777 - 07/07/03 01:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

My personal favorite toys we had as kids was this pair of "shoes" that consisted of two yellow plastic "cups" that were turned upside down (so the open end faced down) and had a green chord that came up the sides of each cup making reigns which you held in your hands.  The whole point was to simply stand on the cups and walk on them while holding them in place with the reigns.  :smile:  Why can't adult minds be as easily entertained?  Oh wait, it can...it's called porn.  lolol

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