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Cactilove
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: bloodbrother778]
#16982053 - 10/07/12 03:42 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: Cactilove] 1
#16982119 - 10/07/12 04:30 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks guys, I think I'm starting to get little glimpses of what you are both saying. I've had some major breakthroughs in the last few days, breaking down barriers that have been stopping me from truly being me for years. In fact I've never made so much progress in such a short space of time ever. It's turning into quite a magical experience 
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I was entirely too obsessed with other people's opinion of me and that's what made my experience so scary because I really didn't want OTHER people to think that I am crazy.
Not to say that I don't still obsess over outside things from time to time as it is easy to get caught up in them, but slowly I've been turning my attention inward more and more and am now on the path to becoming my own person - which I think is the only thing that really matters in this life because how can we have anything if we don't even have ourselves?
My life used to be nothing but obsession and I didn't even see it, I'm lucky because I think I could have lived my whole life that way.
This ^^^ is exactly it. For the past 9 months I've even been manifesting OCD-like symptoms, wondering where it came from. It's not until the past few weeks that I've realised this is an extreme version of what most of my life has been like. Now I've realised that I can start to move on from it.
And for the first time in my live I really feel like I am moving somewhere fast! I even went out mushroom hunting yesterday with the intention of giving them away if I found any. I was wandering around the field thinking "I am actually OK with this. I've learnt what I needed from mushrooms and now it's time to share the love." Needless to say the little beauties were popping out at me everywhere!
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: zzripz]
#16995747 - 10/09/12 02:38 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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crkhd said: Fundamentally nature is a very warm hug, to put it lightly. You are totally cared for in every way, shape and form.
But as soon as you reject that love? Chomp chomp motherfucker. Total surrender is total acceptance of ecstatic bliss. But any element of non-surrender, any lack of faith is a path for suffering/evil to make its way in your direction.
So you saying that if you resist psychedelic experience you have a bummer? Is that what you mean?
The answer to your question would be this thread.
-------------------- "Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern." "THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker "If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: PocketLady]
#28104071 - 12/18/22 06:22 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Can you refer the name of the energy healer you used?
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: Risenphoenix]
#28104909 - 12/19/22 02:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Drugs to get you off drugs you I thinked asked about:
Suboxone, I use this shamelessly everyday to no ill effect seen, it's for opiate addiction which I stupidly used the fentanyl analogues ("modern heroin") I admit a few years ago, but it's sorta like I've used it for so long it's like an anti-depressant that actually works and not in no strange way the ssri's seem to work. I don't get "high" off it and yet I do get High off it at the same time, it's just medication, but it help's you get off other drug's too. good for pain.
Kratom, another I touched quite a few times, it's always been a weak "High" no matter how high the dose. Good for getting you off other drugs. Good for pain.
Caffeine, Coffee or Energy drinks could help you get off harder drugs, or just become another addition. yea, definitely another addition for me, all these I suggested are another addiction, and you seem to be attached to psychedelics, which I've got another suggestion:
Dreams, start a dream journal, my psychoactive experiences (especially DX.M) are connected to my dreams. My friend told me "Dreams come from your Soul", I'm thinking that's true.
Meditation/yoga, only Good can come from this, I think you done these before?
I've been through the whole "did too many drugs and went schizophrenic", DXM was some powerful trips, visions of Jesus where the best, it's painful, soul rapping stuff we're getting into here, demonic like forces made me think "I blaspheme the holy spirit", I feared it for months, it kept coming back, the fear was torture, it wouldn't stop until it rapped my mind and made me think thoughts that where not mine, I had control not to act or follow the thoughts, but they rapped my mind, yet it was may have been my own fear that did it to me, or was it outside demonic forces'? I'm schizo, so I may never know until God him handsome self reveals.
If you wanna know about Schizophrenia, I've been part of a club of schizo/drug addict and mentally challenged people, and I'm schizo myself for 16 years.
some believe they are really being gang-stalked by evil people with higher technology than the public knows. other's call them crazy. I'll remain open-minded. and if you too become schizo, it does make you rich on social security, but you won't know true from false anymore, you'll be strange one for sure.
ask me something about schizophrenia or the connection with spirits, drugs and Visions from and of Divinity. I probably can answer as I've been through it.
You still have time to become a Nun, Donating atleast a few years to Monistic living would be good,,, make you a dazzling bride when after you do your Holy Life tour! lol
-------------------- "He who finds peace and joy And radiance within himself That man becomes one with God And vanishes into God's bliss." -Bhagavad Gita, 5.24 One 21 - Building Better Bombs One 21 - Pacified One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine "Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: saintdextro]
#28168644 - 02/02/23 07:20 AM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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Have you watched the CrazyWise documentary? There are people’s true experience that are related to schizophrenia and bi-polar
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: Risenphoenix]
#28170145 - 02/03/23 12:26 AM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: durian_2008] 1
#28173087 - 02/05/23 08:16 AM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: FishOilTheKid]
#28173300 - 02/05/23 11:21 AM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: Kickle]
#28173401 - 02/05/23 12:34 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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Truly!
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: PocketLady]
#28173450 - 02/05/23 01:22 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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It ain't over till the newage lady tells you to quit all drugs to prevent a schizophrenic eruption in your immediate future.
Seriously, drugs evicted you.
When the dust settles a psychiatric evaluation whether you are in the prodromal phase of a first psychosis might be a good idea too.
The world is in a messy state to get psychotic in, take no chances 
i'm a genuine madness connaisseur and i tell you you dont need any of that in your life. It gets in the way of your consciousness investigations too.
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: Asante] 2
#28189956 - 02/16/23 09:10 AM (11 months, 4 days ago) |
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Yeah…so I made this post 10 years ago. I didn’t stop taking drugs (well, I heavily abstained for spiritual reasons for a few years but nothing to do with this). But for a couple of years after seeing her, I did honestly believe I might go crazy. Try tripping with that in the back of your mind It’s a weird one, and I’m still not entirely sure what was going on here tbh. She was actually successful in pushing me away from spirituality for a limited time because I was scared and went into denial, but ultimately I needed that experience to actually get back on the path to truth.
My experience with her made me realise that even if people have worked on their egos enough to genuinely have your best interests at heart, until they are totally clear, they are still subject to their own distorted perceptions and can end up leading you astray. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: PocketLady] 2
#28189986 - 02/16/23 09:41 AM (11 months, 4 days ago) |
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good to see you, PocketLady!
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: deff] 2
#28190136 - 02/16/23 11:55 AM (11 months, 4 days ago) |
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Hey deff, likewise Good to see you’re still hanging around these parts.
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
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Re: Entheogens, schizophrenia and the veil between worlds [Re: PocketLady]
#28256060 - 03/31/23 11:38 AM (9 months, 23 days ago) |
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I just read this whole thread, assuming everyone was gone. So cool to see your follow-up post. I'm schizophrenic but not on an anti-psychotic specifically so I can use psychedelics as medicine and for my spiritual practice. Although I didn't do them until I did years of research, and had been diagnosed years before at that point.
Anyway, I want to be a facilitator (fancy word for a trip sitter) and work with more severe illnesses such as schizoid and bipolar. Knowing people, myself included, will forever be barred from being a volunteer in research and probably even FDA approved things like ketamine therapy because of such a diagnosis makes me so sad. So I want to do as much informal data gathering around the subject as I can.
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