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OfflinePsilocybeingzz
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the anti drug
    #1685787 - 07/04/03 06:13 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: the anti drug [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1687944 - 07/05/03 02:00 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Very nice site :smile:


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Re: the anti drug [Re: DailyPot]
    #1687964 - 07/05/03 02:18 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

go to www.theantidrug.com first though, as it's alot funnier if you see how good the parody is.  :smile:


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Re: the anti drug [Re: Malachi]
    #1688015 - 07/05/03 02:53 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think it's a parody. I think they're actually trying to provide information to people.

Two thumbs up.


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Re: the anti drug [Re: Malachi]
    #1688248 - 07/05/03 05:11 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I think the two sites compliment each other. In fact they, or some similar pairing, should be linked together. In a society where drugs weren't prohibited, they might represent the opposing sides of the debate, which is where a good deal of the pressure should lie.

Let either side put forth disengenious arguments or outright misinformation, it could easily come back to hurt their cause. Like the .com site (anti-weed) linking marijuana use to pregnancy. The .org site (pro-psychedelics) could respond and break that argument down. The .com site, otoh, might address the issue of abuse more and/or differently than the .org site.


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Re: the anti drug [Re: hongomon]
    #1688657 - 07/05/03 09:23 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

"linking marijuana use to pregnancy"

I understand how that may seem dumb however some cannabis some food a little music and "some" girls wanna spread em
hehe
this is one of the reasons I love CANNABIS, it doesnt make people horny per say , but being relaxed never hurts your chances of getting laid


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Re: the anti drug [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1688835 - 07/05/03 10:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Damn, I never saw the origional antidrug...thats gooood lol


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Re: the anti drug [Re: Malachi]
    #1689339 - 07/06/03 03:06 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Antidrug.com on the adulteration of marijuana: "LSD can be placed on dry leaves..."

Riiigghhttt...I get weed with acid on it all the time.


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Re: the anti drug [Re: monoamine]
    #1689347 - 07/06/03 03:14 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

"LSD is not illegal because it endangers your sanity. LSD is illegal because it endangers Control"


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Re: the anti drug [Re: ivi]
    #1689737 - 07/06/03 10:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You know, it's easy to see how the anti-drug war is just one big gigantic propaganda machine. Notice on the original antidrug.com site that they have a page listing all of the dangers associated with drug useage that have been proven by all kinds of studies, yet they never tell us the name of a study or leave a link letting us know where we can read the study. That's because when people typically look at those gov't funded studies they find that the gov't is lying and that all of those studies that prove (pot for instance) that drugs hurt you really say that there is no statistical difference between drug users and non drug users.


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Re: the anti drug [Re: BetMomIsProud]
    #1690248 - 07/06/03 04:02 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

THE BEST! BOOK......you could read and show people to PROVE ho safe Cannabis is , is Marijuana Facts Marijuana Myths, such an awsome book and they show VERY clearly all the bullshiot the US government has spewed over the years and the facts that prove they were wrong, however in many cases I myself consider it outright lies


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Re: the anti drug [Re: monoamine]
    #1690823 - 07/06/03 08:16 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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grandmasterfat said:
Antidrug.com on the adulteration of marijuana: "LSD can be placed on dry leaves..."



Yeah I saw that too hehe, what bullshit they spread.


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Re: the anti drug [Re: monoamine]
    #1690858 - 07/06/03 08:26 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Also look at this. I can prove that they just make shit up.


"People who begin drinking before the age of 15 are four times more likely to develop alcohol dependence than those who wait until age 21. Each additional year of delayed drinking onset reduces the probability of alcohol dependence by 14 percent."

Okay, it says before the age of 15, so we'll start with 14. At 14 years of age we'll assume the risk is 100. So decreasing at 14% when you get to 21 it is [(21-14)*14 = 98]. [100 - 98 = 2] obviously. So when you are 21 according to them you have a 2 percent chance of becoming dependent on alcohol at age 21. But that doesn't add up to the earlier total... so the maximum % of dependence at age 14 according to their blurb is [2 * 4 = 8] 8 percent. now at age 15 you have a -6% chance of dependence...

I rest my case...


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Re: the anti drug [Re: DailyPot]
    #1691056 - 07/06/03 09:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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DailyPot said:
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grandmasterfat said:
Antidrug.com on the adulteration of marijuana: "LSD can be placed on dry leaves..." 



Yeah I saw that too hehe, what bullshit they spread. 




WTF smokes leaves, anyway?  :wink: 


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Re: the anti drug [Re: MaynardIsGod]
    #1691088 - 07/06/03 09:57 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I think they mean that each additional year beyond age 21 reduces the probability by 14 percent.

Your calculation is completely wrong by the way. Don't just blindly subtract percentages. A cumulative risk works just like a compound interest rate: what you do is turn it into a growth/reduction factor and then raise it to a power. So an x% reduction for each year corresponds to multiplying the risk with a factor ((100-x)/100)^n where n is the total number of years.

So if the factor is 1/4 and n=7, then solve for x and you get x=17.966. This assumes that the factor stays the same between the ages 14 and 21, but the truth is probably that it is even higher closer to age 14. And if that is the case it's not unreasonable that it has fallen to 14% per year after age 21.

You made several other errors, so your calculation is bogus whatever data you put into them.

If you want to prove them wrong, do the calculations right first, then see if the answers match their claimed facts, and then check if these claimed facts are correct.


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Re: the anti drug [Re: Sev]
    #1692329 - 07/07/03 08:17 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Sev said:
WTF smokes leaves, anyway?  :wink: 



I dunno, alot of drug people say pot it made just like tabacco. Its stupid, they taught us in school the dryed leaf is marijuana, the bud is hash. My dad thought this was how it worked also. You can tell americas education really is dropping :confused: 


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Re: the anti drug [Re: DailyPot]
    #1693442 - 07/07/03 04:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

American drug mis-education has always been shit, what do you expect out of schools funded by the very system responsible for prohibition?


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