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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #17486016 - 01/02/13 12:11 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Excellent work Psy.

I appreciate your closing and sharing the matter.

I have found Serbica to be a tad finicky too.

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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Javadog]
    #17486037 - 01/02/13 12:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice! Its really cool to see the simple natural tenchnique succede where the more advanced ones failed!




i know eh! i will be doing this as back up now with all my projects! especially the slower less aggressive wood lovers like serbica, cyanfibs , stuntzii or caerulipes
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Excellent work Psy.

I appreciate your closing and sharing the matter.

I have found Serbica to be a tad finicky too.

Good luck,

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thank you JD! :smile: it was a cool little project , i was glad to share!
and ya serbs are pretty finicky for sure eh! but once the mycelial mass is bigger it starts to wake up.


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17537917 - 01/12/13 02:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome man, I did something like that with cubensis.
I took my freinds failed jars ( he didnt listen to me, he innoc'd with no sterile procedures... in a 100 year old house :facepalm3:
I cloned out seven types of mold using cardboard, then used that to innoc pf jars, cardboard works great as a cheap hardy alternative to agar.
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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Joust]
    #17546746 - 01/14/13 12:01 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

In my own cardboard experiments I am notising a deffinite difference in qualities of cardboards, There is the darker stuff which is good and the lighter very recycled crap which does not work well, unfotrtunately it seems like here we mostly only get the lighter recycled crap .

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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Lennybernadino]
    #17546758 - 01/14/13 12:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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In my own cardboard experiments I am notising a deffinite difference in qualities of cardboards, There is the darker stuff which is good and the lighter very recycled crap which does not work well, unfotrtunately it seems like here we mostly only get the lighter recycled crap .




This is an interesting observation, I had given up on cardboard and egg cartons because it always seemed to slow down and stall after a week, but it was always recycled materials.  Makes sense now that I think about it, I'm sure the recycling process takes a lot of the nutrition out.


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #17546803 - 01/14/13 12:10 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe it would help to soak the cardboard in a more nutritious solution than plain water, like weak coffee or compost tea. The calorie content of recycled cardboard should be the same even if nitrogen and minerals are lost.

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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: thiotimoline]
    #17546818 - 01/14/13 12:13 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

over the years ive eaten up a huge 52" TV box that was left in my garage when i bought this house! :smile: i like thick currogated cardboard the best. egg cartons are hit and miss. the darker the better.  oysters really like the purple 24 packs. i started with currogated , then went to egg cartons but im back to currogated again.
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Maybe it would help to soak the cardboard in a more nutritious solution than plain water, like weak coffee or compost tea. The calorie content of recycled cardboard should be the same even if nitrogen and minerals are lost.




that may invite contams since you only pasturize cardboard which its self is a pretty contam free material. especially if your working with slower species than oysters.


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17546842 - 01/14/13 12:17 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Good point. You'd have to make it weak enough that you only get back to the nutrition level of normal cardboard, not any higher. Might not be worth the effort of calibrating this.

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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: thiotimoline]
    #17546870 - 01/14/13 12:24 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

ya like the serbs took a month to colonize a small piece of cardboard. it woulda been a trich farm by then.


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17845380 - 02/22/13 12:54 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

So to keep this going i just put some pasturized cardboard onto dishes of P subaeruginosa, P cyanfibrillosa, P quebecensis , P allenii and P caerulipes. :smile:

oh and to update those other bags, the one ovoid turned into an ovoid bonsai and although i only took pics of one of the bags, but i had 2 serbica bags .one of the serbicas was made into a bonsai and the other has been doubled up now and is a healthy fat bag of bohemica spawn ready for spring innoculations!! :rockon:

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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17846368 - 02/22/13 09:34 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I look forward to the results!


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Javadog]
    #17889077 - 03/01/13 09:25 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

this is turning out to be an interesting experiment.

it turns out the hardest one to germinate, and the slowest and weakest of the latest 5 , is P quebecensis. But out of all 5 it has taken to the cardboard the fastest.
similiar to how the cardboard saved me with the other slow weak species P seribca. :thumbup: P caerulipes which is similar and seems to be taking as well. so far only P allenii and P cyanfibrillosa havent taken to the cardboard.


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17889222 - 03/01/13 09:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I will keep this in mind bro.  I am restarting serbica.  ...though
I am about four months behind schedule on it.

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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Javadog]
    #17889392 - 03/01/13 10:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

my serbica is deadly now. once its a mass it really strenghtens up. i have started mixxing more sawdust now with my chips as it rips through it much faster with more smaller partilces.


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17890388 - 03/02/13 01:33 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I find P. quebecensis is really weak on agar, i have yet to isolate a clean strong culture.
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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Joust]
    #17890448 - 03/02/13 02:02 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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I find P. quebecensis is really weak on agar, i have yet to isolate a clean strong culture.
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i have a few decent isolates but i dont see this species ever getting really aggressive.
im making a quebec LC tomorrow.

hey where did you get yours? from nova scotia?


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17891412 - 03/02/13 10:14 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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I find P. quebecensis is really weak on agar, i have yet to isolate a clean strong culture.
:nyan:




i have a few decent isolates but i dont see this species ever getting really aggressive.
im making a quebec LC tomorrow.

hey where did you get yours? from nova scotia?



yeah from a microscopy sample.
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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Joust]
    #17891419 - 03/02/13 10:17 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

cool we got the same ones. :smile: its a race now boooy!!


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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #17891424 - 03/02/13 10:18 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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cool we got the same ones. :smile: its a race now boooy!!



i ied mine are from maine.. but i declare you the winner.
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Re: cardboard on agar? [Re: Joust]
    #17891447 - 03/02/13 10:24 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

yours were from Maine? what observation?


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