|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Sickleg
Stranger
Registered: 06/20/12
Posts: 51
Last seen: 10 years, 2 months
|
Improving the Lemon tek?
#16851769 - 09/15/12 01:57 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
So everybody by now knows that putting mushrooms in an acidic enviroment facilitates the conversion of psilocybin into the chemical that makes us trip, psilocin. This is a well published Tek.
However, my basic chemistry knowledge tells me that chemical reactions usually happen more readily with increased temperature. So wouldn't heating the lemon juice/mushroom mixture greatly increase the effectiveness of this technique???
|
guitaristjon22
imaginations inoculation



Registered: 06/08/12
Posts: 432
Last seen: 6 years, 2 months
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: Sickleg]
#16851859 - 09/15/12 02:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
like makeing tea? haha
--------------------
   "What I call self-transforming machine elves.Sort of like jewelled basketballs all dribbling their way toward me. And if they'd had faces they would have been grinning, but they didn't have faces. And they assured me that they loved me and they told me not to be amazed; not to give way to astonishment. And so I watched them, even though I wondered if maybe I hadn't really done it this time, and what they were doing was they were making objects come into existence by singing them into existence."-Terence McKenna Help Me Further My Cube collection
|
1EyeCries
Paper Weight



Registered: 07/21/10
Posts: 1,626
Loc: Earth
|
|
Pinky's kick ass tea
What more can ya do?
|
FruitOfLife
Professional Package Handler


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 4,832
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: 1EyeCries]
#16851932 - 09/15/12 02:26 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
C'mon guys, let him have his moment of almost genius
--------------------
|
Typerwritermonky
shboop a doop a doop

Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 5,375
Loc: Mrs. Brown's Teahouse
Last seen: 9 days, 22 hours
|
|
It would increase the reaction rate, but not neccesarily increase the effeciency.
|
eMpire420
Suicide Is Bliss




Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 2,595
Loc: The Fucking Moon
|
|
Quote:
Typerwritermonky said: It would increase the reaction rate, but not neccesarily increase the effeciency.
The definition for efficient is "Achieving maximum productivity". So to increase the reaction rate would be more efficient. It wouldn't effect potency though.
|
Sickleg
Stranger
Registered: 06/20/12
Posts: 51
Last seen: 10 years, 2 months
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: 1EyeCries]
#16852005 - 09/15/12 02:46 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
1EyeCries said: Pinky's kick ass tea
What more can ya do?
I know full well about making tea, but what the fuck is adding a teaspoon of lemon juice to a cup of water going to do? nothing!
I'm talking about heating the pure mushroom/lemon juice mixture.
You think I'm full of shit and you cite a technique that advises adding chewable vitamin c gummies to the tea because everybody knows it's the vitamin C in orange juice that makes you trip harder, right? lol
|
Rewindicus
Silly Goose



Registered: 06/05/11
Posts: 5,491
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: Sickleg]
#16852036 - 09/15/12 02:55 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sickleg said:
Quote:
1EyeCries said: Pinky's kick ass tea
What more can ya do?
I know full well about making tea, but what the fuck is adding a teaspoon of lemon juice to a cup of water going to do? nothing!
I'm talking about heating the pure mushroom/lemon juice mixture.
You think I'm full of shit and you cite a technique that advises adding chewable vitamin c gummies to the tea because everybody knows it's the vitamin C in orange juice that makes you trip harder, right? lol
LOL no because vitamin C is acidic.
-------------------- “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.”- Dr. Seuss "Too much of a good thing, can be wonderful!" - Mae West "If you have nothing nice to say about anyone, come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
|
guitaristjon22
imaginations inoculation



Registered: 06/08/12
Posts: 432
Last seen: 6 years, 2 months
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: Rewindicus]
#16852066 - 09/15/12 03:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
its gonna make it lemony
--------------------
   "What I call self-transforming machine elves.Sort of like jewelled basketballs all dribbling their way toward me. And if they'd had faces they would have been grinning, but they didn't have faces. And they assured me that they loved me and they told me not to be amazed; not to give way to astonishment. And so I watched them, even though I wondered if maybe I hadn't really done it this time, and what they were doing was they were making objects come into existence by singing them into existence."-Terence McKenna Help Me Further My Cube collection
|
Sickleg
Stranger
Registered: 06/20/12
Posts: 51
Last seen: 10 years, 2 months
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: Rewindicus]
#16852073 - 09/15/12 03:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Rewindicus said:
Quote:
Sickleg said:
Quote:
1EyeCries said: Pinky's kick ass tea
What more can ya do?
I know full well about making tea, but what the fuck is adding a teaspoon of lemon juice to a cup of water going to do? nothing!
I'm talking about heating the pure mushroom/lemon juice mixture.
You think I'm full of shit and you cite a technique that advises adding chewable vitamin c gummies to the tea because everybody knows it's the vitamin C in orange juice that makes you trip harder, right? lol
LOL no because vitamin C is acidic.
So is citric acid, so why dilute it with more water? My point is that no current lemon teks recommend heating it up to save time and make it more potent.
|
1EyeCries
Paper Weight



Registered: 07/21/10
Posts: 1,626
Loc: Earth
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: Sickleg]
#16852086 - 09/15/12 03:07 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sickleg said:
Quote:
1EyeCries said: Pinky's kick ass tea
What more can ya do?
I know full well about making tea, but what the fuck is adding a teaspoon of lemon juice to a cup of water going to do? nothing!
I'm talking about heating the pure mushroom/lemon juice mixture.
You think I'm full of shit and you cite a technique that advises adding chewable vitamin c gummies to the tea because everybody knows it's the vitamin C in orange juice that makes you trip harder, right? lol
... chill out Mr. Scientist.
Your original post sounded like you were ignorant to making the tea, so I provided you with some info... Your "improved tek" wont be "improved" unless you "improve" the amount of mushrooms or "improve" their potency.
|
FakePlasticSky
Fake Plastic Trees



Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 3,543
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: 1EyeCries]
#16852115 - 09/15/12 03:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Why are you guys giving this guy a hard time? The arrogance and cattiness in here is mind boggling.
-------------------- I've kissed mermaids, rode the El Niño.
|
eMpire420
Suicide Is Bliss




Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 2,595
Loc: The Fucking Moon
|
|
Quote:
magnifier661 said: Why are you guys giving this guy a hard time? The arrogance and cattiness in here is mind boggling.
I agree. That said, to answer the OP's question, mixing the powder and lemon mixture overtop of a low-heat flame should in theory increase the speed in which the psilocybin is broken into psilocin. However, there's no way to really make them more potent.
|
1EyeCries
Paper Weight



Registered: 07/21/10
Posts: 1,626
Loc: Earth
|
|
Quote:
magnifier661 said: Why are you guys giving this guy a hard time? The arrogance and cattiness in here is mind boggling.
I was accused of accusing him of "being full of shit" when I did no such thing, so I responded explaining myself and providing information to what I thought he was inquiring about 
Making the tea with the teks provided on this site, extracts damn near all of the actives one is seeking, I dont see what else can be done to "imporve" the teks. I asked the question "what more can you do?" and the response was a bunch of curse words and arm flailing.
Is he trying to improve the potency? the extraction? what is the goal? It's not clear... and by not being clear on his intentions with the teks, one can not provide direct or useful information to help him achieve his goal.
|
FakePlasticSky
Fake Plastic Trees



Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 3,543
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: Improving the Lemon tek? [Re: 1EyeCries]
#16852184 - 09/15/12 03:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
1EyeCries said:
Quote:
magnifier661 said: Why are you guys giving this guy a hard time? The arrogance and cattiness in here is mind boggling.
I was accused of accusing him of "being full of shit" when I did no such thing, so I responded explaining myself and providing information to what I thought he was inquiring about 
Making the tea with the teks provided on this site, extracts damn near all of the actives one is seeking, I dont see what else can be done to "imporve" the teks. I asked the question "what more can you do?" and the response was a bunch of curse words and arm flailing.
Is he trying to improve the potency? the extraction? what is the goal? It's not clear... and by not being clear on his intentions with the teks, one can not provide direct or useful information to help him achieve his goal.
Yes I agree there isn't much to improve a lemon tek. I'm just tipping at this site lately. It's like "who can talk the most shit" wins a button or something. Oh forget it.
-------------------- I've kissed mermaids, rode the El Niño.
|
FruitOfLife
Professional Package Handler


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 4,832
|
|
This may seem off subject, vut magnifier... Are you doing that 20 strip today ?
--------------------
|
|