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General questions..
    #1685118 - 07/04/03 12:02 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This might not be the proper forum, but im not sure where to post these questions..

Is cooking a tea with p. cubensis and or cope cyan effecient?
Are the active alkaloids destroyed in doing so?
If this is an accepted method, would I just boil water with the mushrooms for a certain time period?
Is psilocybin the active drug in cope cyan?
When are cubes at their peak potency in comparison to their veil breaking?
Are very/over mature cubes still psychoactive?
Does intensity of blue bruising correlate to potency?
For best results, should mushrooms be ingested on an empty stomach?

Sorry for so many questions, its just these have been eating at my brain for some time, and its time to clear up some of the urban legends regarding shrooms in my area. Thanks, OG


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Re: General questions.. [Re: overgrow]
    #1685481 - 07/04/03 02:44 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Now let?s try together:
Which forum does a thread called "General questions.. " belong?

Take a look over the forums, and try to find an answer.....I?m waiting.


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Re: General questions.. [Re: Anno]
    #1685553 - 07/04/03 03:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

musta missed it, tnx anno :wink:


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Re: General questions.. [Re: overgrow]
    #1686130 - 07/04/03 11:35 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Shrooms when prepared inthe form of a taea lose over half of their potency. Psilocybine is water soluable and psilocine is not.

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Re: General questions.. [Re: overgrow]
    #1686240 - 07/04/03 12:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You're lucky I'm bored.... Ya know everyone else would tell you that you can find the answer to each and every one of those with a search....

>>Is cooking a tea with p. cubensis and or cope cyan effecient?
Yes, but powdered is pretty easy, compared to a glass of tea sometimes...

>>Are the active alkaloids destroyed in doing so?
Unless you really over boil the water, no.

>>Is psilocybin the active drug in cope cyan?yes

>>When are cubes at their peak potency in comparison to their veil breaking?
I've heard that too, I dont really know. It probably isnt, but a truer statement is that spores taste nasty, so you might want them immature

>>Are very/over mature cubes still psychoactive?
Very... but really really overmature, pile of mush, ones succumb to bacteria...

>>Does intensity of blue bruising correlate to potency?
I think the bluing is the active component, so it definatly does. But I've also heard that its being oxidized and unusable (which I'm not sure if I believe either) So according to that idea its how potenet it USED to be..

>>For best results, should mushrooms be ingested on an empty stomach?
Yes, and keep munchies around if you're tripping really hard... you might not move for 6 hours..


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Re: General questions.. [Re: overgrow]
    #1686241 - 07/04/03 12:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Is cooking a tea with p. cubensis and or cope cyan effecient?

It works... don't know if it is effecient or not.

Are the active alkaloids destroyed in doing so?

Yes. Same with drying them.

If this is an accepted method, would I just boil water with the mushrooms for a certain time period?

I like to bring water to a boil, remove from head and drop in a teabag or three... wait for five minutes or so, then drop in the fruit and let stand until luke warm.

Is psilocybin the active drug in cope cyan?

One of them.

When are cubes at their peak potency in comparison to their veil breaking?

General net lore says as the viels are breaking the fruit is at peak potency. I do not know if this is true. I have seen no scientific studies to back up the claim.

Are very/over mature cubes still psychoactive?

Yes, but they always seemed weaker to me.

Does intensity of blue bruising correlate to potency?

Most people claim yes, I think probably not. I have had very powerful trips of fruit that doesn't bruise for many hours. I have had week trips off of fruit that bruised immediately.

For best results, should mushrooms be ingested on an empty stomach?

Yes, or a mostly empty stomach... a little fatty food helps get the digestive system in gear.


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Re: General questions.. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1686332 - 07/04/03 02:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

>Shrooms when prepared inthe form of a taea lose over half of their potencys

I didn?t make this experience at all.
If I take 2 g fried P. cubensis than they are stronger prepared as tea than if I eat them as they are. Definitely stronger.


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Re: General questions.. [Re: Anno]
    #1686391 - 07/04/03 02:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Anno, the high from eating shrooms is form four to six hours.

When eaten int he form of a tea you loise about half the high. Yes you get off in 10 minu=tes but uin two hours you are down. It is a much faster high and does dizzines on your CNS when consumed fast. I often post that the mazatec and other indigenous tribals groups who utilize these sacred shrooms take up t a half an hour to eat their doses. Thus allowing the experience to come on slowly in waves and ripples as if taking control of time. TIme as you know is often ditorted on shrooms.

If you eat the shrooms to get them down in a hurry in a few minutes or inthe form of a tea, soup or stew thent he experience comes oin very fast like a rockt. This shocks the C NS and makes for skitsy moments for about an hour after ingetstion. But Sasha Shulgin told me personally that they do loste much in the form of a tea becauee the psilocine is not water soluable.

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Re: General questions.. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1686406 - 07/04/03 02:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

>>the high from eating shrooms is form four to six hours

My first successful cubensis trip lasted 8.5 hours.

>>Thus allowing the experience to come on slowly in waves and ripples as if taking control of time. TIme as you know is often ditorted on shrooms.

But would the peak be as intense? Meaning, if I had 4 grams of dried shrooms and ate them over a half hour instead of munching them down all together...would those two trips be equal in experience, minus the onset nausea from eating a lot of shrooms at once?

>>If you eat the shrooms to get them down in a hurry in a few minutes or inthe form of a tea, soup or stew thent he experience comes oin very fast like a rockt.

I had one dose take 3 hours to kick in...was freshly dried cubensis powder in capsules. I dosed all 4 grams at once. It was the only time I ever used capsules that didn't hit me within 30 minutes of ingestion...so I know it wasn't the capsules not dissolving fast. When I posted about it I was told shroom powder can clump in the stomach acids (much like cocoa in hot water) and that it can still take some time for the clumps to be digested. Any thoughts or experience on that?

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Re: General questions.. [Re: Anno]
    #1686615 - 07/04/03 04:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have found 'shroom tea' to have two different meanins.

1) shrooms that are soaked in tea and filtered, leaving a liquid with a bit of magic in it.

2) shrooms that are blended into tea and not filtered, creating a liquid with pretty much all of the magic in it.

My qualitative experience for each has been:

1) The tea is easy on the stomach.  The trip is quite a bit less... maybe as much as half as much.  If I chug the liquid, the trip comes on very quickly.  The experience is usually shorter, lasting only a few hours.  It doesn't seem to matter how long I soak, or boil, the shrooms in with the tea, I still lose some of the trip.  What I lose cannot be made up for by increasing the dosage... it is like something is missing that I normally get.  (Non-blind, non-standardized observations)

2) The tea is no different than eating regular fruit on the stomach.  The trip is equal to eating shrooms.  If I chug the liquid, I start to trip immediately... within a minute or two.  The trip seems to last almost as long as eaten shrooms.  I don't seem to notice myself missing anything from the trip.  The tea is easy to drink with a strong earthy flavor... I find it the easiest method of consumption with the least loss.


Both of the above observations are based on several experiences with both fresh and dry fruits.  I have even tried boiling fruit under low pressure reflux for over 24-hrs and still didn't feel that I got all of the magic out.  Without being double-blind, all my obersvations could easily be biased.  :smile:


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Re: General questions.. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1687365 - 07/05/03 03:32 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

>But Sasha Shulgin told me personally that they do loste much in the >form of a tea because the psilocine is not water soluble.

I don?t doubt that psilocin is not water soluble, but didn?t you present a paper where as P. cubensis doesn?t contain nearly any psilocin in the first flush? This would explain why there is hardly a difference in potency from a tea or from whole fruits.
And, my "tea trips" never last only 2 hours, they last from 4-5 hours, with a peak in the time from 1-3 hours after drinking the tea.


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Re: General questions.. [Re: Anno]
    #1687460 - 07/05/03 05:13 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This is off topic, but Anno whose picture is that in your avatar?  If you've said so before sorry...I'm still sorta new here.  :smile: 


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Re: General questions.. [Re: MOTH]
    #1687516 - 07/05/03 06:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Take a look in my profile.


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Re: General questions.. [Re: Anno]
    #1687552 - 07/05/03 07:54 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Lol, thanks, for some reason I never thought that I'd find the answer there.  :smile: 


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