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need a couple of q's answered for second grow
    #1685066 - 07/03/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I ordered a cubensis grow box from azarius a whila ago and grew it at a friends house, but now for several reasons he cant grow in his closet, mostly because of his mom. I think taking the shrooms was the best experience I've ever had and I insist on getting more, but don't know where to grow. I live in Sweden and it's not that warm up here so I need some tips on how I can heat something, like a box or something in the forest to grow it in. If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask and thanks for any help in advance.

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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ]
    #1685092 - 07/03/03 11:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If you are doing this inside.. room temp should be no problem.. an incubator will help for, well.. incubating.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #1685103 - 07/03/03 11:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"like a box or something in the forest to grow it in" nah in the forest probably.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ]
    #1685165 - 07/04/03 12:35 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Ohh, I thought you were refering to a box inside.. or the alternative outdoor. I know very little about outdoor growing so I, unfortunately, am of little help here. I do know outdoor comes with it's own set of problems, i.e bugs, uncontrolled weather, and many other things that need to be accounted for.

First off, I would look for a species native to cooler weather, try to find something that mimics swidish weather as best as possible. Secondly, you will probably find that you will only be able to grow at certain times of the year, when the weather is actually decent. Thirdly, I think a box outdoors would be uncecessy, although it may help too keep some nast pests out. Trying bulding a minature green house of some sort, it will be a little difficult in order to get the temperature just right but with effort can be done. I'm not sure of any portable heating devices that can be used with batteries.. maybe a solar panel.. but that's expensive. Just get creative, there are many things you can do, it is definately possible.

Feel free to ask anything else.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #1685169 - 07/04/03 12:38 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

what i did, was i put the terranium with the cakes outside, its summer here, so the temp shouldnt be too bad. i dunno what its like in Sweden though.

i suggest a fish tank heater


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: EvolutionX]
    #1685209 - 07/04/03 12:56 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

how much does a fish tank heater cost? what temp can I expect the inside of the terranium to be with the heater if its about 15 - 20 degrees c during day and around 5 degrees at night here? do they run on battery or what? I'm growing 2 Cubensis grow kits from azarius.com inside some sort of terrarium, thanks for the help.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ]
    #1685272 - 07/04/03 01:22 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You could use a cold loving Psilocybe strain. Azurens are VERY potent and love cold but also are VERY hard to grow. Your Choice!


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #1685424 - 07/04/03 02:21 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That's what I was going to suggest but figured it's not wise for a beginner. A fish tank heater will require some sort of wall outlet, unless you can find a portable power source. Also fish tank heater will require water to operate and will only heat surfaces (the container most likely). What you really need to do is heat the air also.

Since you have a growing organism, it will produce some heat, so insulation of this box will keep that heat in. Glass top will allow visible light to go in and keep infrared (heat) in. Also, since you wont want your precious babies to receive too much direct light, so it would be wise to put a dark layer between the glass top and substrate.

I drew you a little pic of what I am talking about just for clarity. Also, the "dark layer," should be as low as possible, since heat rises and needs to have some holes in it so the air can mix somewhat.



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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ]
    #1685457 - 07/04/03 02:31 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Tips:

#1 Don't grow in Daddy's house

#2 Don't use a kit, as it teach's you next to nothing.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ]
    #1685472 - 07/04/03 02:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

not to mention, pf tek is probly alot cheaper.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: A0999]
    #1685820 - 07/04/03 06:49 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not growing in daddys house, I'm growing in the forest. And I'm not out to learn about shroom growing, but just getting some shrooms since they cant be bought around here. Extravagant Dream: wouldnt the box need some holes for air or something? and what would the dark layer be made of thanks.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ]
    #1686079 - 07/04/03 11:18 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I would not put holes in the box, instead I would use a larger box and fan it once a day. You could use holes and some poly-fil, but it will make it difficult to keep warm air in.

As for the dark layer, it can be made out of anything really, just something Dark.

I really encourage you to learn, as you are right now.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #1687383 - 07/05/03 03:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So if I make an air tight container with that black sheet covering my grow kits the temperature will remain fairly high during the night time? Another question, what should I use to make the container? just a big plastic box? And will the shrooms get enough air if its completely tight? thanks for the help and I can't wait to trip again, theres nothing like tripping on shrooms.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ]
    #1687415 - 07/05/03 04:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The temps won't remain that high during the night, but all that means is that your growth will slow down a bit, so long as your temps aren't sub-freezing at night.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: Sev]
    #1687547 - 07/05/03 07:48 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well, depending on how insulated the terrarium is and how little you have to fan and let air in, it can stay quit warm. A Rubbermaid/Sterilite(sp?) box always works well, no construction and will not leak. It will need some sort of insulation though. You will need to give them fresh air, the bigger the box, the less you have to fan and let cool air in.

There are some really neat things possible here, just requires some thought, preparation, and testing. You won't get it right the first try but just keep modifying till it works.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: ExtravagantDream]
    #1687795 - 07/05/03 12:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah.  All I'm saying is that he doesn't have to worry too much about doing it outside, so long as he doesn't mind it taking a little longer than it would under 'perfect' conditions inside.  :smile:


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: Sev]
    #1687986 - 07/05/03 02:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Vaporizer-I'd say ExtravagantDream's idea is the best. I was thinking something similar-it's a lot like building a solar oven (My sister once made one of those) where you can bake stuff in like a cardboard box with tinfoil. So I'd just improvise and make a greenhouse type thing that is discrete (so you don't get caught and no one steals your shrooms) and keeps the heat in well. Good luck man.
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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: MrSleep]
    #1688343 - 07/05/03 06:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

go wit what pit says dont grow in daddys house
never by a grow kit
after u get prints from the kit what will u do with them u didnt learn how to make ur own sub. or anything ur back it step numero uno with some more reading to do.


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: MAGICSNOOP]
    #1688350 - 07/05/03 06:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

kramer says to grow pesa they fruit at low and he means low temps


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Re: need a couple of q's answered for second grow [Re: george castanza]
    #1690907 - 07/06/03 08:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for all the answers, I think I'll stick to extravagantdreams thought. When you say I might not get it right the first time, do u mean it won't grow at all the first try and the kit is wasted, or that it won't be as good as it could be. Cause as long as they grow I'm pleased. And I am determined to get a kit, I'm not looking to be a professional shroom grower but to just grow a lil bit of shrooms to trip a few times and thats it, but thanks for the tips anyways.


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