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11nova
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MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question
#16846663 - 09/14/12 02:00 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys so on Friday last week i took 40 mgs of adderal xr. Then that night I took what was supposedly .1 of molly and didn't feel anything. Then Wednesday I took 120 mgs of vyvanse for this long Chemistry Lab, I know that was kinda a large dose. So today is Friday would i have any noticable drop in effects if I took .3 of pure mdma tonight?
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11nova
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16846683 - 09/14/12 02:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh and btw the molly is from a different, legitament source.
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16846712 - 09/14/12 02:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just do some bumps of meth bro
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11nova
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ClosedEyeCigarette said: Just do some bumps of meth bro
Yea that's what I was thinking. But decided against it....jk but i'm guessing you dont have any clue about my question?
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16846822 - 09/14/12 02:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nah i dont like uppers lol
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11nova
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I was using the adderal and vyvanse just for school purposes. So anyone have any idea if i should wait to dose the molly or just do it tonight? I would ideally like to do it tonight but will wait if necessary
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16846931 - 09/14/12 02:54 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bump anyone please?
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16846934 - 09/14/12 02:55 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Meth dude
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11nova
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true, well thanks.
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16846956 - 09/14/12 02:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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MDMA causes euphoria through an enormous release of both serotonin and dopamine. Serotonin causes the lovey feeling, and the dopamine causes the euphoria. They work together to produce the effects. An increase in serotonin without dopamine will not cause euphoria, as anyone who's ever been on SSRIs would know.
d-amphetamine doesn't cause a tolerance to your serotonin system, but it does cause a tolerance to your dopamine system. So yes, there will be cross tolerance. The cross tolerance will not be as significant as it would be had you taken a dopamine-serotonin releaser, but there will be tolerance nonetheless.
But if you need 120mg vyvanse for school purposes, then I can't even imagine what your recreational amphetamine dose would be. This suggests that you already have a natural tolerance/resistance to the drugs.
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: BothHands]
#16846991 - 09/14/12 03:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont really know why i took 120 mgs of vyvanse haha that was probably stupid. But it did help me a lot....would the effects be noticeably diminished? Or will i still roll pretty hard off of .3 of pure mdma?
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16847048 - 09/14/12 03:18 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's only been three days, but .3g pure MDMA, if it is what you say it is, should be more than enough to overcome that tolerance.
Some advice, smoke a cigarette, and it'll kick you roll up a whole ton. Nicotine increases dopamine sensitivity in the mesolimbic pathway (reward system). Cigarettes also contain harman and norharman, which are related to the MAOI chemicals in Syrian Rue. They'll further increase your dopamine and serotonin levels.
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: BothHands]
#16847065 - 09/14/12 03:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info! Not a normal cigarette smoker but gonna get a pack in a little Many thanks and hope you have as good of a night as i will
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16847097 - 09/14/12 03:26 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're not a normal smoker, one cigarette should probably last you the whole night. Once you reach your peak, take one huge drag off the cig, and then put it out. You'll feel the euphoria multiply 10-fold. Even when I wasn't a smoker, I would always make an exception for a roll. But don't get greedy, if you smoke too much tobacco as a nicotine naive individual, you will do a whole lot of puking. One big drag is enough, then hold off for 20 minutes at least.
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: BothHands]
#16847127 - 09/14/12 03:32 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright thanks haha I'm probably only going to smoke 3 of them max plus I think i'm gonna go with newports so that should be pretty fun.
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: 11nova]
#16847158 - 09/14/12 03:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Marlboro Menthol > Newports. 
But sounds good. Menthol competes with the enzyme that metabolizes nicotine, so the effect lasts longer. And the menthol feel in your mouth is just a great addition to a roll anyway.
Trust me, you'll never roll without a cigarette again after this.
Enjoy yourself.
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Re: MDMA/Vyvanse/Adderal cross tolerance question [Re: BothHands]
#16847224 - 09/14/12 03:52 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha okay thanks really appreciate the help
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