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Re: Can I clone infinitely? [Re: op2kal]
    #16844841 - 09/14/12 03:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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same as weed... 3 generations to breakdown. :cookiemonster:





Id love to see the proof on that.... Ive cloned the same strain over 20 generation seen nothing bad yet... Think about all the clones passed around??? And what about all the clone only strains passed from a mother plant -- oh wait no thats a clone that they gave him to make a mother plant, wait what he's doing the same thing to give it to that guy over there- and and the same thing over there???

The theory seems like total BS to me, if the plant isn't healthy it isn't going to be what you want it to be and that seems to be the case in most peeps strains going to hell over multiple generations. Many knowledgeable peeps in the medicinal communitys have found that there strains get better with a few generations.

EDIT: Of course this is in response to marijuana. Mushrooms? I am still learning them. First grow coming soon :smile:




I read this and thought 'bollocks'... So I googled it. Sure enough it is an urban myth that there is genetic breakdown with weed (one that I believed), and there are in fact many clone only strains. Live and learn :hatsoff:


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Re: Can I clone infinitely? [Re: notanumber]
    #16844941 - 09/14/12 05:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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for sure, of course, but if you think about it, cloning is really just giving a single genetic strain more colonization space. In the wild, a network isn't constrained (by jar walls etc) in the same way as when grown artificially.

I guess I'm curious how long a single genetic isolate lasts within the context of a large established network.

Probably not thousands of years-- but then the obvious implication is that mycellial networks maybe shouldn't be thought of as single organisms (as some people often call them) but cities/colonies or whatever.



Because there has been research to suggest that the strongest genetic substrain takes over the other substrains, (stamets, Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms). So as one grows weak another takes over, ensuring the continued survival.


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Re: Can I clone infinitely? [Re: cloudpersona]
    #16845010 - 09/14/12 06:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Because there has been research to suggest that the strongest genetic substrain takes over the other substrains, (stamets, Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms). So as one grows weak another takes over, ensuring the continued survival.



hmm... i guess my hunch/stab in the dark was close to being correct.
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Re: Can I clone infinitely? [Re: tropicalfrenzy]
    #16845342 - 09/14/12 08:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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tropicalfrenzy said:

I read this and thought 'bollocks'... So I googled it. Sure enough it is an urban myth that there is genetic breakdown with weed (one that I believed), and there are in fact many clone only strains. Live and learn :hatsoff:





Thank you for doing research before replying to that :smile: Wasn't being rude just stating my findings and many others I know of... now on that note I will tell you some strains may degrade a little or become slightly unstable through lots and lots of cloning. Lot of times, they recover just fine though.

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