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Bruising or contams? First grow.
    #16841084 - 09/13/12 01:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

This is my first grow. I'm about 6 days into the fruiting chamber and small pins are forming along the base of my cakes. However, I didn't dunk my cakes. My mistake was to just get them wet for about 10 mins and then roll them. Although it seems like the problem is dehydration, I feel that it could also be from excess misting. During colonization, the cakes looked 100% healthy. I am very worried that this is mold of some sort. Can someone please verify that this is just some noob mistake that caused bruising?



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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Drewskyyz]
    #16841099 - 09/13/12 01:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It's bruising.  Those cakes look really dry.. not dunking was the first misstep I'd say.  Dunk after the first flush.

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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Drewskyyz]
    #16841114 - 09/13/12 01:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I can tell you need more FAE. Badly.

Only mist when the moisture droplets on the surface of the cake have evaporated. And then mist lightly. Fan after misting, always.

I can't tell from the pics if it's contam but to me it looks like fuzzy mycelium that's bruised.

You don't have to dunk after birthing, but it's suggested so that you have as much water in your cakes as possible.



-Is you SGFC designed properly? 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides? FC raised 2"-4" to allow airflow underneath?

-Do you know the humidity inside the FC?


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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Wing]
    #16841129 - 09/13/12 01:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I would dunk your cakes for a full 20 - 24 hours. 10 mins is hardly anything. Then use that time to make sure your FC is proper.


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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Wing]
    #16841596 - 09/13/12 03:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks very much for the info. There are already pins on the bottom of my cake about 1/8 of an inch long. Should I just harvest those small ones and dunk the cake, or is there an alternative method to dunking I can use? I don't want to damage or stall my cakes growth by dunking them. It seems to be pinning is taking place only at the bottom anyways.


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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Wing]
    #16841843 - 09/13/12 04:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Wing said:
I can tell you need more FAE. Badly.

Only mist when the moisture droplets on the surface of the cake have evaporated. And then mist lightly. Fan after misting, always.





What are you seeing that indicates a need for FAE? Im getting ready for my first grow and trying to get a good feel for what the warning signs are for various problems

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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Igrow1ups]
    #16842221 - 09/13/12 05:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The sign you need more FAE on mushrooms fruiting bodies would be mycelium  growing up the stipes. 

The indicator in your case is thick mycelium you see growing.  It isn't being told by the environment to produce fruiting bodies, so, you're missing a pinning trigger.  The top three, in order, are: full colonization (+consolidation), FAE, evaporation.

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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Thadeous]
    #16842470 - 09/13/12 06:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I have a bunch of holes drilled in my FC. Other than more fanning, is there any way to get more efficient FAE? Should I direct one of my bedroom fans towards the chamber?


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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Drewskyyz]
    #16842490 - 09/13/12 06:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Drewskyyz said:
Thanks very much for the info. There are already pins on the bottom of my cake about 1/8 of an inch long. Should I just harvest those small ones and dunk the cake, or is there an alternative method to dunking I can use? I don't want to damage or stall my cakes growth by dunking them. It seems to be pinning is taking place only at the bottom anyways.



The pins can survive a 24 hour dunk. Just leave them on there and submerse the cake. They'll be fine (=


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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Jake1715]
    #16842526 - 09/13/12 06:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Drewskyyz said:
Thanks very much for the info. There are already pins on the bottom of my cake about 1/8 of an inch long. Should I just harvest those small ones and dunk the cake, or is there an alternative method to dunking I can use? I don't want to damage or stall my cakes growth by dunking them. It seems to be pinning is taking place only at the bottom anyways.



The pins can survive a 24 hour dunk. Just leave them on there and submerse the cake. They'll be fine (=



I'm gonna dunk them right now. I'll get them out tomorrow evening. Thanks a lot for the help!


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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Wing]
    #16842529 - 09/13/12 06:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Drewskyyz said:
I have a bunch of holes drilled in my FC. Other than more fanning, is there any way to get more efficient FAE? Should I direct one of my bedroom fans towards the chamber?



Not cheaply.  A humidifier that forces fresh air in is how I would do it in a greenhouse.  Though I suppose the monotub is the next "step up" from a sgfc.  They use a bunch of holes stuffed with polyfil for FAE.

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-Is you SGFC designed properly? 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides? FC raised 2"-4" to allow airflow underneath?



This should be enough, provided your sgfc is to specification.

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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Thadeous]
    #16842590 - 09/13/12 06:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Wing said:
-Is you SGFC designed properly? 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides? FC raised 2"-4" to allow airflow underneath?



This should be enough, provided your sgfc is to specification.



They're all about 2 inches apart. However, the drill bit I used was slightly smaller than 1/4 inch. As long as the cakes aren't contaminated, I will just research and improve my FC.


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Re: Bruising or contams? First grow. [Re: Drewskyyz]
    #16842851 - 09/13/12 07:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

As far as I know they are good to go!  Best of luck!

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