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First grow gone bad?
    #16840289 - 09/13/12 10:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So i notice the veils on my shrooms are pretty bluw but there was nothing wrong with the cake for the first couple days and i pick it up today and theres some slight blue around it have these gone bad?

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16840292 - 09/13/12 10:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like bruising.
There fine to eat. No contaminate.


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16840299 - 09/13/12 10:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

is posting pictures on a website safe? lol

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16840327 - 09/13/12 10:15 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

aight thnx

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16840332 - 09/13/12 10:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i've heard that here they scrub the exif data when you upload pictures.


although i have no clue what that means, it sounds safe


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: serotonin storm]
    #16840348 - 09/13/12 10:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

ok is there a way to know like examining a shroom after picking and drying or just pray to god i live? haha

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: serotonin storm]
    #16840351 - 09/13/12 10:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sure....



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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: serotonin storm]
    #16840395 - 09/13/12 10:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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i've heard that here they scrub the exif data when you upload pictures.


although i have no clue what that means, it sounds safe




When you take a picture, especially with a phone, the pic cantains info. That info may say things like when it was taken, date and time, and more importantly where the picture was taken, coordinates and such.


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: Wing]
    #16840532 - 09/13/12 10:56 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i definitely wouldn't worry about it. i've had mushrooms that have blue and sometimes green tints to it, and have always been told it was the psilocybe inside. it could also be bruising, but without pics it's hard to tell ;p whether that's the case or not, it's normal.

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    #16845541 - 09/14/12 09:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16845560 - 09/14/12 09:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

From what I've read if you wipe it with a q-tip and it comes off blue then you have mold-- if it comes off with nothing then its just bruising on the cake....

Once again I am not an experienced cultivator, this is just from my research.


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: op2kal]
    #16845593 - 09/14/12 10:04 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Its just bruising op, if you notice the spots you touched while taking the picture, they'll be blue now too....

You can still eat mushrooms harvested from a cake/tub with abit of trich.....We eat bread everyday which is loaded with it.

I should add, any other mold besides trich should be treated as highly toxic and discarded properly.


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: op2kal]
    #16845598 - 09/14/12 10:04 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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From what I've read if you wipe it with a q-tip and it comes off blue then you have mold-- if it comes off with nothing then its just bruising on the cake....

Once again I am not an experienced cultivator, this is just from my research.




yes ive seen that and nothing came off but i cant shake the feeling that its mold for some reason i just want everyone to be safe

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: HybridprX]
    #16845607 - 09/14/12 10:06 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Its just bruising op, if you notice the spots you touched while taking the picture, they'll be blue now too....

You can still eat mushrooms harvested from a cake/tub with abit of trich.....We eat bread everyday which is loaded with it.

I should add, any other mold besides trich should be treated as highly toxic and discarded properly.




woah wait so if it is some blue mold. this "trich" my immune system (which is fantastic) will just fight it off?

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16845632 - 09/14/12 10:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't suggest eating a handful of Trich because it can spur mold alergies if not some other ill effect. But small doses are not toxic to humans. We breathe it in, ingest it, wear it on us all day. It's everywhere

BUT, trich is not the only green colored mold. Just because it's green doesn't confirm it's trich.


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16845655 - 09/14/12 10:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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From what I've read if you wipe it with a q-tip and it comes off blue then you have mold-- if it comes off with nothing then its just bruising on the cake....

Once again I am not an experienced cultivator, this is just from my research.




yes ive seen that and nothing came off but i cant shake the feeling that its mold for some reason i just want everyone to be safe




That's an outdated method. Bruising has also been known
to rub off. Just watch it over the next few days, if it
increases in size odds are its mold. Are you sure the
discoloration isn't where you usually handle the cakes
to lift them? It looks about the same area your hand
has lifted them.
Bruising can also come from the substrate drying out.
A good way to tell if they need dunked is by judging the
weight they are now, to the weight they were when first
birthed. :thumbup:


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16845671 - 09/14/12 10:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Its just bruising op, if you notice the spots you touched while taking the picture, they'll be blue now too....

You can still eat mushrooms harvested from a cake/tub with abit of trich.....We eat bread everyday which is loaded with it.

I should add, any other mold besides trich should be treated as highly toxic and discarded properly.




woah wait so if it is some blue mold. this "trich" my immune system (which is fantastic) will just fight it off?




No no,  he said that anything OTHER THAN trich, your fantasy blue mold, should be treated as if it would kill you.

He also stated that if it has a bit of trich on the cake, it is still ok to eat fruited bodies off that cake, more or less.

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16845678 - 09/14/12 10:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i know this sounds bad but when i dunk and theres shrooms on the cake dont the shrooms get ruined sitting in water that long?

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16845684 - 09/14/12 10:21 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No. Dunking with pins/fruit bodies are fine.
Mushrooms are 90% water. You would harvest all
fruits that are ready.


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: Thadeous]
    #16845690 - 09/14/12 10:21 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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i know this sounds bad but when i dunk and theres shrooms on the cake dont the shrooms get ruined sitting in water that long?



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zerobeat4393 said:
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HybridprX said:
Its just bruising op, if you notice the spots you touched while taking the picture, they'll be blue now too....

You can still eat mushrooms harvested from a cake/tub with abit of trich.....We eat bread everyday which is loaded with it.

I should add, any other mold besides trich should be treated as highly toxic and discarded properly.




woah wait so if it is some blue mold. this "trich" my immune system (which is fantastic) will just fight it off?




No no,  he said that anything OTHER THAN trich, your fantasy blue mold, should be treated as if it would kill you.

He also stated that if it has a bit of trich on the cake, it is still ok to eat fruited bodies off that cake, more or less.




oh damn alright then.

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16845697 - 09/14/12 10:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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No. Dunking with pins/fruit bodies are fine.
Mushrooms are 90% water. You would harvest all
fruits that are ready.




oh ok great. i'll go and do that.

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16853510 - 09/15/12 08:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

so good news i pressed my thumb on top of the cake to compare the color of bruising to what was around the cake and i confirmed it was bruising and i had my first harvest :laugh: but now i have another problem.
i was at work all day and when i came home one of the shrooms opened fully and there was black EVERYWHERE on the paper towel on the cake the other shrooms everything i immediately picked everything and washed them off and they were really slimey when washing and i can't recall if while i was washing the first batch if they were slimy while i was washing them like these were is it normal for them to be slimy while you wash them? should i just toss this batch and the cake? oh i also noticed one mushroom had cobweb on it just one of them one that was touching the paper towel this batch has a ton of sketchy things going on someone help please :p
Oh i should also add that there is no abnormal smell going on just a shroomy smell if that helps determine wether not this batch is safe.

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: zerobeat4393]
    #16853764 - 09/15/12 09:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That black stuff is spores.  They should be fine.

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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #16855142 - 09/16/12 08:51 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No need to wash the spores off...
And that's why we try to Harvest the fruits
as the Veil tears or flatten out just some
for prints. Spores leave some hefty messes.

Congrat's on your success :thumbup:


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Re: First grow gone bad? [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16855197 - 09/16/12 09:13 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just spores probly they can make your grow look like your mushies went to hell and back. Be careful diagnosing cobweb mold. No sense throwing away good cakes unless it looks instinctively sketchy. Mycelium grown in lack of FAE can look odd with sometime huge white masses of cobweb like growth that is harmless, but sometimes taken as mold. Just make sure to inspect it carefully and compare photos. You're probly good.

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