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Kizzle
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#16834063 - 09/12/12 10:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: ok right on, will remove air exchanger and do it the right way.
If you fix that I bet your next flush will be 10x better. MS does give inconsistency so if they're all tiny like that IMO it's too consistent to blame on genetics.
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Brain Fart
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Kizzle]
#16834119 - 09/12/12 11:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Excessive Humidity and Moisture can cause this, as well as dwarfed or retarded primordia/caps opening early on underdeveloped mushrooms
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LeopardMan
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Brain Fart]
#16834160 - 09/12/12 11:13 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brain Fart said: Excessive Humidity
That doesn't exist in mushroom cultivation
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Brain Fart
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: LeopardMan]
#16834214 - 09/12/12 11:24 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its from TMC. Maybe its outdated but I have had issues with this happening when there was to much moisture for sure. maybe the humidity was not the cause, but it is stated in TMC.
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LeopardMan
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Brain Fart]
#16834325 - 09/12/12 11:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brain Fart said: Its from TMC. Maybe its outdated
It is. There is no such a thing as too much RH in mushroom cultivation. Mushrooms love 95%+ RH and they thrive in FCs with 100% RH. I just pointed that out because too many new growers are excessively worried about RH and statements like that tend to worry them even more
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Brain Fart
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: LeopardMan]
#16834353 - 09/12/12 11:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess your right I did not think of it that way lol. In fact I knew that but for some reason never put two and two together.
My experience must have been related to incorrect moisture levels(being on the to wet side likely)
I have GGMM TMC and Mycelium Running as well as a few cultivation books from the 70s. Sometimes it all gets confused so excuse me and thanks for the correction
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Kizzle
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Brain Fart]
#16834354 - 09/12/12 11:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, high humidity could be a factor as in you might not see them without it or something but it wouldn't be a cause since you should always have high humidity.
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LeopardMan
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Brain Fart]
#16834402 - 09/12/12 11:56 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brain Fart said: My experience must have been related to incorrect moisture levels(being on the to wet side likely)
yeah, that can indeed become an issue. Too much water often stunts growth and results in poor performance
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Brain Fart
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: LeopardMan]
#16834415 - 09/12/12 11:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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It, was likely due to improperly built FCs back in the day and excessive misting.. I love my new GH I have 2 now
Wow looking back I have come a long way lol
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Stipe-n Cap
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Brain Fart]
#16836455 - 09/12/12 05:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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whats a GH. Thanks for the replies.
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cloudpersona
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#16836461 - 09/12/12 05:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: whats a GH. Thanks for the replies.
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Stipe-n Cap
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#16836497 - 09/12/12 05:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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One more thing, I fan after misting but no matter how much I fan there is water droplets left on the myc growing out of the verm. The misting flattens the fluffy myc and makes it resemble hills of hyphal knots. Will droplets of water (very small droplets not big globs of water) hurt anything? would have to fan for an hour to get all the moisture off. I figure dew must cause the same effects in nature.
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creationdivine
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Re: small (short) mushrooms. [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#16837059 - 09/12/12 06:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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small droplets of mist are fine. In my experience I've found that cakes on the dryer side will pin better since water evaporating off the substrate promotes pin growth.
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