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Bonsai'd buds (a how to)
    #1683589 - 07/03/03 10:14 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I've posted this method a few times, but i don't think i've ever dedicated a thread to it. In addition to that the last set of pictures were lost in the BB upgrade. So here it is again. Hopefully easier to understand.

This method is pretty much adapted from a method i've seen in a High Times article a few years back. I've practiced this method with many different plants and have had great success. The art of bonsai is not limited to just tress, it can be done with virtually any plant.

The first picture is meant to be read in rows left to right.



One starts with an initial cut, then makes two, then four, then eight and so on depending on how big of a bonsai and how many branches are desired.

The red lines indicate points at which cuts are made. Whatever is cut off can be discarded. The cut have to be made as close to the first set of leaves on the branch/stem as possible without disturbing the leaf stems. The rest should be pretty straight forward.



The fan leaves can be left intact if desired, but if stealth is desired and nosy people/neighbors are a problem then consider trimming the fan leaves.



Again the red lines are cut points. The trick is to remove all the fingers of the fan leaf except the middle one.

The plant sustains just fine with or without the fan leaf fingers because it is so small. This part of the bonsai process is merely a matter of security and aesthetics.



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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1683906 - 07/03/03 12:24 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

cool, thanks for postin' man! :laugh:


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1683932 - 07/03/03 12:38 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

btw, i never claimed to be an artist

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1684288 - 07/03/03 03:11 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Nice write up Nuero.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Effed]
    #1685050 - 07/03/03 09:28 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

nuero,thanks alot, this is great shit i remember the when u posted this for me a few months back, it was great then as is still great now.

and i think your pictures get the message accros even if u don't claim to be an artist

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: ]
    #1685110 - 07/03/03 09:58 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

neuro* :grin: :tongue: :wink:

Aww thanks guys... i posted this again cause the other one was all messed up from the BB move.

When i was trying to draw this i was thinking "gawd, this isn't going to make any sense!"


I'm glad it helps!

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1685163 - 07/03/03 10:32 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Pictures suck but you get the point across :tongue:

Good job, thanks for the post :grin:

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: DailyPot]
    #1685170 - 07/03/03 10:38 PM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Pictures suck but you get the point across

Good job, thanks for the post






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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1776387 - 08/03/03 07:29 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Here are some pics of plants that have just under went their first cut, they had 2 sets of leaves, and now they've been topped and are now back down to one. I expect in a few days two new shoots from all of these.






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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1776578 - 08/03/03 08:22 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks a lot Neuro. I was wondering about how to make a marijuana bonsai, and now I'll be able to start one. How big do these get? I have a couple Shiva Shanti seeds I may try this with, since it isn't suppose to grow large.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: govna]
    #1776614 - 08/03/03 08:33 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

They're generally kept a foot high, and are constantly pruned once at the height and bushiness desired until you're ready to flower.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1776635 - 08/03/03 08:41 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Very cool, I'll have to get started on this

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: govna]
    #1777292 - 08/04/03 01:18 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks man u make it alot simpler then overgrow...im off to get my cutters. :devil:


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: JameZTheNewbie]
    #1778145 - 08/04/03 12:19 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

can you use the stems you cut(for bonsai) as cuttings, or is that just branches?


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: JameZTheNewbie]
    #1779685 - 08/04/03 09:30 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Usually that can't be done, unless the stem/branch is allowed to grow out a few nodes, with the bonsai method you cut it immediately so it grows new shoots faster.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1780022 - 08/04/03 11:14 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

How does this affect yield?


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Tantalus]
    #1782122 - 08/05/03 02:49 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

It's significantly less, if you're going to bonsai them then you shouldn't be concerned about yield but more about stealth or novelty. I don't have any numbers though, perhaps this year I'll try to get some values.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1824703 - 08/17/03 11:55 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Here is an update, these plants have just completed their 3rd trimming, here is what they look like:


Top view of group:






Single Specimen:








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UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: neuro]
    #1891426 - 09/07/03 02:50 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

About 3 are beginning to flower, they started about a week and a half ago. Once i get to borrow a digicam i'll be posting pics.

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Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: neuro]
    #1896881 - 09/09/03 01:38 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

wow man awesome. waiting for the pics !!! I hope they continue not to look like weed so I can grow this way


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Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: T0aD]
    #1897438 - 09/09/03 07:50 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

once it starts budding it gets hard, cause the leaves that cover flowers come out 7 fingered and sometimes 9 fingerd and those have to be trimmed too and those are very frosty, i feel bad doing it, but otherwise it'll blow it's own cover.

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Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: neuro]
    #1917596 - 09/15/03 07:47 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

So how is it going? I'd love to hear more about your project. What is your light source?

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Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #1917630 - 09/15/03 08:08 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

The project is going very very well.

Conditions as of right now:

Environment: outside since seedlings
Light source: the sun
Conditions: left out during hard terribly windy storms, very hardy now as a result.

Status: budding


I'm having a digicam being sent to me as, from TheInvizibleMan as i do not have access to one at this time from which i will take some pictures to finish this thing off.

Once i get it i'll snap the remaining pics.

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Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: neuro]
    #1917646 - 09/15/03 08:15 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Nice to hear they are doing well. I'm looking forward to see the pics  :smile: 

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Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #1932979 - 09/19/03 03:29 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Damn, InvizibleMan's mail is on hold since he was just in the hurricane.. hopefully it comes out in the next few days.

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Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: neuro]
    #1951356 - 09/25/03 02:32 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Hopefully not too long nuero I'm really looking forward to the pics.


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1960974 - 09/28/03 08:23 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Well, here they are.... just a little blurry, the cam isnt' the greatest, and the macro shots suck. If anyone wants to donate a better free cam to me, then send me a pm.

Here's one i call "momma"






Close up of growth area with untrimmed fan leaves. It's not so clear cause the cam isn't so great.




A male plant  :sad: :razz:, too blurry to actually see the features, but it is male. Trust me.










more to come in another post.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1961011 - 09/28/03 08:34 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Aside from the pictured male and another I killed, the rest look like sisters. One other male was killed before i could get the cam, he's drying and so are now the other pictured ones for drying and brownies.

Here's the rest of the harem.

Here's the bigger bush again, close up untrimmed new fan leaves, will be trimmed shortly when i get time, i'll take pics of the finished product.




Top view of 2 other sisters in the harem









The blurry male from before, hanging on the wall for display with my fan leaf displays. and that previous male that's already completely dried.




I'll post some pics of the the others that weren't trimmed.



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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1962628 - 09/29/03 12:18 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

As promised, before trimming the fan leaves and after trimming.

At this point, when i noticed the growth change and flowering start to happen i stopped trimming whole nodes off and let the nodes continue to grow out. I forgot to mention that yesterday

Here they are:


Untrimmed:


After trimming:




Untrimmed:


After trimming:



That's all for now.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1962900 - 09/29/03 02:00 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Nice. I will most likely be trying something similar in the spring. Will be using Ducksfoot though, so no trimming of the fan leaves will be necessary  :laugh: Until flowering that is. Just hoping the smell won't be that overwhelming, it is considered to be a "high odor" strain  :stash: :spliff:

 

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1963560 - 09/29/03 05:40 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Send me one or two plants by mail  :blush: 

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1965834 - 09/30/03 11:37 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Jesus Christ Man! Cutting the leaves so they only have one finger really does fucking work. If I saw that plant in someones yard I wouldn't know what's going on! And I have a damn good eye too.

There is no doubt this method requires further investigation by myself.


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Its Pat]
    #1966753 - 09/30/03 04:37 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

yeah it's true, they look totally different....no need for paranoia there. Awesome job nuero.


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Hooty]
    #1967088 - 09/30/03 06:25 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

They're coming along nicely... hairs everywhere now, but my cam isn't good enough to capture them in focus. I'll get some more pics once the buds develop more.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1979160 - 10/04/03 02:18 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Well i'm making brownies with the 2 males and a bunch of left over stems and clippings of the others.

Here's the butter on the double boiler.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1979664 - 10/04/03 06:51 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Do you not worry about stressing the plants too much by trimming them like that into the budding cycle?

Also, are you just trimming the leaves or are you still topping the plant as well now that they're budding?

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: gtivr6mk4]
    #1979754 - 10/04/03 07:33 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

i stopped topping all the branches about 3 weeks ago when it started into a flowering. Now i only trim the fan leaves leaving the middle lamina.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1981039 - 10/05/03 10:46 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

How far into flowering are the plants neuro?


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Hooty]
    #1981375 - 10/05/03 01:16 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

coming up on a month or so.. they started at the beginning of sept.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1991535 - 10/08/03 09:55 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Here's a newer pic of the biggest bonsai with a ruler for comparison for size.





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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1992261 - 10/09/03 03:01 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

wow nice man. how old is it :smile:


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: T0aD]
    #1992704 - 10/09/03 08:32 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

almost 3 months old.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1992860 - 10/09/03 09:46 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

What kind of harvest do you usually end up with weight wise? I know it is reduced but I was just wondering about what you are left with.


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #1993124 - 10/09/03 11:49 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

not sure, we'll find out.... i first tried this last summer.. and these bitches who lived up stairs from me stole them when they moved cause i had some un bonsai'd ones growing outside next to them and they took those and the bonsai's.. I'm still unclear whether they knew they were weed or not or just took them for good measure.

So i'll let you know.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1994579 - 10/09/03 06:16 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Karma will catch up with them hopefully


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #1994603 - 10/09/03 06:23 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

actually it did... one of them was killed in a car accident this past summer..drunk driving, her fault. go figure eh?

on a different note: i'm gonna be using a higher quality cam to get some good bud shots this weekend i hope.. so we'll see what hizappens.

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #1999270 - 10/11/03 01:37 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

woah... bad karma.... indeed...

thanks a lot for the thread man... i got started on trying this myself 3 days ago... how big are yours getting?



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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: plexus]
    #2001120 - 10/11/03 08:09 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: tak]
    #2002416 - 10/12/03 12:29 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

What the hell kind of ruler is that?  It looks digital with a bunch of buttons on it!?!  Never seen anything like that.

BTW... still looking good!  or mabey still not looking good??? since it doesn't look like the typical pot plant... but you know what I mean! :laugh:

keep the pics comming!

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: gtivr6mk4]
    #2003257 - 10/12/03 06:44 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

It's a fancy ruler, it has a shit load of time zones on it, a countdown thing, set an alarm and is a calculator.. neat eh?


I got some really good bud shots coming up later tonight..

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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
    #2003814 - 10/12/03 10:17 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

those look great, i await the good bud pics, im not sure if death by car accident is an acceptable route of karma for taking some ganja, but kinda humerous in a sick way.


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: dibbles]
    #2003888 - 10/12/03 10:38 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Hey neuro man you said later tonight on those bud shots, and I still don't see any. You know how impatient we can get around here for good pud shots.  :smile: Seriously though I'm looking forward to seeing them, I've been really impressed with these plants so far.


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Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Hooty]
    #2003939 - 10/12/03 10:54 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Heh, okay so like sunday morning.. it's 1 am...


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2003958 - 10/12/03 11:00 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

    Bud shots










  • You can see on this one i haven't trimmed the latest set of fan leaves, but if you look just below the first set of fan leaves you'll see brown spots on a leaf where the side laminar were cut off.




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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2003960 - 10/12/03 11:01 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

    All right, thos pics were enough to passify me...for now. :smile: They really are great looking plants though neuro and I'm looking forward to more pics. I'll definately be tryign this in the spring. Keep up the good work.


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Hooty]
        #2005468 - 10/13/03 02:00 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

    I'd think your plants might benifit from larger containers. For there size they shouldn't need anything too much bigger, but I bet with the current pots you have to water them almost every day. Since they're about half done it might not be worth it at this point, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyways.

    Of course keeping them in smaller containers than they need will slow their groth above the soil.... if you wanted to limit their size.
    I think yeild would be affected too though.....

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: gtivr6mk4]
        #2005824 - 10/13/03 04:26 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

    Indeed i have to water nearly every day, though since it hasn't been as hot transpiration hasn't been as fast and now it's every other day.

    Well i was planning on being very scientific about this and testing out a few things.

    True bonsai involves root trimming. I didn't do that, though i planned

  • My original intentions with several plants:
    1. A few left in smaller pots with no root trimming as control
    2. A few left in small pots with root trimming
    3. A few moved into bigger pots with no root trimming


    I strayed away from all of this because i had no time to really devote to a good log keeping and separation and all the work. So i left them in whatever pots i put them in and didn't trim the roots.

    Every single plant is terribly terribly root bound, and I'm basically using that as a pseudo-root trimming effect. They're so close ot being done now moving them is pointless. I basically decided i had to keep on top of watering when I abandoned the various test groups.

    So far the only bad effects from terrible root bounding is quite a bit of leaves have turned chlorotic prematurely and were taken off. Otherwise it seems fine okay since I'm not intentionally using their pot bound state as a stunting method so long as i keep on top of watering.


    Next summer I plan on having better weather outdoors so as to start them earlier have several control groups and have them flower on time, in addition to my late bonsai's I have about 50 green tomatoes that were frosted last week.



    My goals with this project was to demonstrate the bonsai method its application to marijuana and that one can bonsai and trim the fan leaves for optimum stealth. Yield is not my main concern this time around and really shouldn't be for any person doing bonsai.

    I will be running the control groups next summer to see what the max yield will be for these types of plants.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2006272 - 10/13/03 07:20 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

    Intresting... I didn't realize there was root trimming involved in bonsai. I guess you're suppose to do a little trimming of the root ball when transplanting to bigger containers, but it wouldn't be a normal event. How often do you anticipate cutting at the roots next summer?

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: gtivr6mk4]
        #2006373 - 10/13/03 07:51 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

    I'm not entirely sure, MJ is quite a vigorous rooter, maybe ever 2 weeks. Bonsai involves root trimming to keep a plant/tree at it's exact size and container size. Usually when switching containers for bonsai it's not much if at all bigger than the last.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2087639 - 11/09/03 09:39 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

    haven't had any updates in a while neuro, how are the plants doing?


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Hooty]
        #2088867 - 11/10/03 08:36 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

    ripening...

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2089288 - 11/10/03 12:15 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

    Quote:

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    ripening... 




    Yummy!  Don't leave us out of the loop when they're done.  We want pics as well as a smoke report! :laugh: 

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: gtivr6mk4]
        #2095995 - 11/12/03 06:49 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

    yeah man. Wanna see da results :smile:


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: T0aD]
        #2122531 - 11/19/03 11:23 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

    neuro share some pics of hows it growin man



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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: T0aD]
        #2123771 - 11/19/03 08:02 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

    Some bad news (first): two of them had to be plucked early as it was obvious that being potbound was becoming too detrimental.

    an aside:
    pot-bounding is actually a promoter of flowering in most plants.


    In this case, it was too severe for too long and my hope that ripening would finish before potbounding got too bad was inaccurate. So they were picked early, i saved some immature buds and the rest was ground up for hash. The immature buds, though not dense at all and in somecases not even close to being half formed stil provided a clean tasting and good tasting smoke and got me quite high. I was impressed for buds dried on a radiator (since i planned on making hash i didn't care).

    I will show picks of the remaining plants' harvest when they're done. Big Mama in the largest pot that looked th emos tlike a bush is still green healthy and strong and nearly ready for harvest despite being terribly pot bound, i suspect she'll finish before being pot-bound kills her. The one is in the smallest pot i had (i left it purposely) it's still relatively healthy but it's showing signs of hurt from being pot bound, i suspect it'll finish before pot-bound kills it.

    Again i'll make a note that i had no intentions for anything spectacular with these plants than just growing them for the fuck of it. Every step of the way they were not babied or given the best. I left them outside all summer even though i knew summer sucked. I gave it ferts pretty regularly but didn't give them the best. They flowered about the same time my tomatoes flowered and now i have been forced to give some supplimental light (via a 70w HPS lamp) because it's just too cold out and there's no good place inside. They're finishing out in a very controlled environment now. And i expect the buds to be nice from Mama. So we'll see...

    Pics will come when i get some good bud shots at the end.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2189021 - 12/18/03 10:28 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

    I don't mean to drag up an old thread, but can we get some updates/pictures?

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Shamanorrhea]
        #2190371 - 12/19/03 12:30 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

    i know i know i know... i gotta get a cam to take some pics of the buds before they're all gone.. i promise i'll have some up within the month..

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2240459 - 01/13/04 10:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

    Yeah so umm, I promised pics..

    The last plant to flower, Momma:




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    I'll get more pics once they're fully ripened and harvested. Not too much longer now.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2240469 - 01/13/04 10:50 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

    This took a long time to finally kick in and flower hard, I think i gave it a boost by taking off some limbs, i think i spread it too thin on it's limited root system. Once i removed the limbs and gave it a good budding prune it kicked right in and was making progress. Not much longer now.

    I just checked and this has been a 5 month and some days grow so far.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2247760 - 01/17/04 03:06 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

    Too bad I don't have a digicam, otherwise I would show you my flowering 3" cutting :laugh:

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2249161 - 01/17/04 06:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

    Completely awesome. I saw an article about this in high times magazine a couple of years ago and used it on some plants until I could move them to an area where I could let them grow natrually. It went well, and ever since I wondered how they would bud if I continued the trimming into flowering.

    Very nice job man, I can't wait to see what kind of weight those plants produce.

    I also had a theory that stressing the plant out that much could make for more potent buds. We will see. :grin:

    Was that bag seed?

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: TheHateCamel]
        #2249251 - 01/17/04 07:13 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

    Those are some awesome plants, man.

    I haven't posted much on these forums but I've been coming here for over a year. I've been keeping up with this thread for a while and I'm glad to see some progress. Hopefully I'll be able to start a project like this on my own. :smile:


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: TheHateCamel]
        #2249476 - 01/17/04 11:09 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

    That article is what gave me the idea; i improved upon in the methods and such with my own practices to come up with what i posted here.

    The seed was bag seed from some decent mid-grade stuff. The buds didn't look anything like what i'm seeing on my plants.

    I'll try and grab pics of harvested and cureds buds by next month probably.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2253082 - 01/19/04 02:40 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)



    The top of one of the branches got clipped off on the car ride back. I don't have a fancy digital camera so i used a pen cam and a magnifying glass with plenty of light. Sorry for no size comparison, but the bud would fit on a quarter with some edges exposed.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2253867 - 01/19/04 07:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)




    Some gnomes last year in my basement used a similar method and achieved pretty good results. With the plant shown (30 days into flowering), it was topped at about 8" and they used a staircase pruning method to allow light to hit lower growth, letting it catch up to the top. It was grown alongside an un-topped, un-pruned sister and there was a definite difference in yield.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: johnB`]
        #2254141 - 01/19/04 08:19 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

    Nice...

    I just smoked that nug not too long ago and i'm pleasantly surprised. Very nice taste for little curing time very nice high, very cerebral with a touch of narcotic. Very nice combo.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #2295654 - 02/02/04 09:30 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

    Okay, this will be my concluding post unless i manage to come into contact with a better camera before i smoke this bud.

    I give you a representative sample bud of my bonsai project. A total yield of 6 grams. Not too shabby for what is designed to be a window sill plant!

    Here she is. Sorry, it's a shitty pic, hopefully I get my hands on a better cam before i smoke her.



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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #3046581 - 08/24/04 10:33 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)



    That is this year's plants. However i pulled them out and killed them yesterday because a cop kept coming to my back door looking for my sister since i let her forward her mail to my house while she was inbetween apartments.

    Amazingly he looked at my plants and even complimented me on how nice they were. While these exact plants were brushing against his right leg. He never suspected a thing. Passed the test indeed i'd say.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #3046585 - 08/24/04 10:35 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

    I guess i should clarify that i ended up killing them even though they passed the test because i've been busy lately and haven't been able to keep on top of keeping them pruned and i began to get paranoid of him coming back when i haven't been on top keeping them pruned.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #3046783 - 08/24/04 11:28 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

    It's good to hear a follow up to this thread neuro, to bad to hear you ahd to kill them.


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: neuro]
        #3047607 - 08/25/04 05:54 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

    Great How-to! Ive been looking for a good guide to make bonsais to bud. All I could find was how to make bonsai mothers :frown:.  Youve made my dream come true :cool:

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    yeah. awesome guide. i'll keep it in mind if i ever grow again.


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: Locus]
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    I was just wondering if you let those plants seed and the polinating male was a bonsai too and you did it for a few years like maybe 5 or so would you notice any difference in the size of the plant? Would the DNA actully be able to change after a period of time? How long would this period be. That would be cool to pass this technique on and keep letting them go to seeds for a bunch of people generations untill the seeds just grew into bonsai plants with no special care. dont really know anything about genetics so my appologies if it is stupid and would never work. I do know that things adapt to there surrounding however this takes way longer then the life of a person. Anyways would it work?


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: PinkFloydRocks]
        #4313176 - 06/19/05 05:46 AM (19 years, 9 days ago)

    Hmm It seems that you didn?t pay a lot o attention to biology classes at school?  :blush:

    What you say is Lamarcs theory which is not right.  :confused:
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        #4313628 - 06/19/05 12:03 PM (19 years, 9 days ago)

    LOL okay. I was just wondering if it was possible. I actually dont remember anything about that from biology. I remember hearing something about plants changing like that but wasnt to sure if i heard it worked or didnt work, Thanks for clearing it up =)


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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: PinkFloydRocks]
        #12447975 - 04/24/10 05:35 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

    SWIM says she's going to try this technique. Seeds are germinating. She'd like to know how long she must keep on pruning. The main concern is the month of August, when she's not going to be around. Any advice would be welcome.

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: globos]
        #12449825 - 04/24/10 02:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

    :popcorn: This is an awesome application of pinching back! 

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    Re: Bonsai'd buds (a how to) [Re: kiyote]
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    I was just wondering if you let those plants seed and the polinating male was a bonsai too and you did it for a few years like maybe 5 or so would you notice any difference in the size of the plant? Would the DNA actully be able to change after a period of time? How long would this period be. That would be cool to pass this technique on and keep letting them go to seeds for a bunch of people generations untill the seeds just grew into bonsai plants with no special care. dont really know anything about genetics so my appologies if it is stupid and would never work. I do know that things adapt to there surrounding however this takes way longer then the life of a person. Anyways would it work?




    The thing is that acquired traits aren't passed on to their children, which was believed for a while until Darwin posted his book Origin of Species.  For example, a horse who stretches out his neck to eat from higher branches will not pass on his longer neck to his children and in a number of generations, become a giraffe. 

    Rather, there are random changes in the genetics from generation to generation, and those individuals with beneficial changes breed more than other members of their species from generation to generation until the change becomes ubiquitous.  If you wanted to apply this method to pot, you could try to selectively pollinate plants that are shorter, and in a long period of time, maybe get a dwarf plant.  But cutting the plant in a bonsai style won't cause a change in genetics.

    (Oops, didn't realize that this was already answered!  Hopefully this explains more though!  xD)

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    Re: UPDATE: Bonsai'd buds (a how to): flowering [Re: neuro]
        #13379779 - 10/24/10 10:54 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

    I'm new to the whole growing scene I guess you could say. I know what i'm doing but i'm looking to keep my plants small. You said that your plants were about a foot tall. Do they put out a good yield or not so good?

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