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depression
    #1682887 - 07/03/03 06:00 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I get dpressed way too often life just sucks so much sometimes im stuck in a job i hate,i have a fear that people are only really nice to me cause im a pathetic looser and not cause there really my friends,girls seem to just be repulsed by me im fat and ugly i just hate myself and my life.But im not always like this sometimes im extremely happy way too happy i experience mood swings alot.Thought for the most part im just depressed.Have thought about suicide but wouldnt beable to go thghrough with it too many family member would be hurt by it cause it dosent only effect me it effects everypne arpund me.though i have thought and hoped that id experience some kind of horrible accident which would take out of this life which i loathe.

feelt good to get that off my chest.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1682973 - 07/03/03 06:54 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like bipolar depression.
If it gets unbearable find a Good doctor that will listen not just piss you off with a prescription.
It sounds like you got people who care so what more could you ask for?
Mabe a holiday or some change.


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Re: depression [Re: trev]
    #1683135 - 07/03/03 07:49 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Most people feel the same way at some point in their life.

How old are you?

Life goes on, you'll die someday, so no rush.. make the best of what you got while you have it!

loosen up!


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Re: depression [Re: trev]
    #1683171 - 07/03/03 07:58 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Its is unbearable ive been like this for as long time now though ive never really disscussed this with anyone because when i try thye just tell me things that dont nessicerrally realte to my problems and offer such cliche adivce as iull get over it,or things will get better soon youll see ect ect ect.Also like i said i have this overwhelming fear that noo one really cares for me and im jsut a brden to other people.Im a compleate fuck up whos going nowhere in life.I also have this problem where i uncontroablly cry for no reason at all not cause im sad or depressed i have no idea why.I just feel so alone and helpless in this world.Thank you very much for the advice i will deffinetly consider it .But the thing about the doc im wary about i went to one once told him my problems and he just dissmissed me and tried to give me a script of an ssri so i told him to fuck off and walked out.


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683177 - 07/03/03 08:00 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Im 18 adn ive been this way since i was 14 its not something that just goes away i wish it was that easy.And as for life going on that the whole thing i dont want it to go on i just constantly fuck up i just cant seem to do anything right.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1683192 - 07/03/03 08:03 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Well.. i personally don't beleive in presc meds.. they can be a good thing in some cases... long story!

You got the shroomery. it's not as warm and friendly as real friends... but hey..

Why are you such a failure? what makes you think so? again. how old are you? do you smoke pot. ? do you work full time or part time. what kind of work do you do?

more details = better help!


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683195 - 07/03/03 08:04 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

ooops. you beat me to the reply!.. haha..


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683209 - 07/03/03 08:07 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

How tall and heavy are you?

( i don't mean to be insulting. but want a clearer picture of what you call FAT.. )


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683257 - 07/03/03 08:22 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

5'6 210 lbs all fat no muscle i work part time i oded twice i fucked up alot in school im going absoulutely no where in life.And yes the shroomery is a great place i love it here.And it can be alot more warm and friendly then some of my "friends" though like i said the ones who are warm and friendly seem like they just are my friends cause im pathetic oh and did i mention im poor as shit as well and have been for as long as i can remember.

Edit:sorry if i come off as whinny.I know alot of people here dont know me but i figured this would be a good place to get things off my chest sorry to burden any one with my problems and thanks for trying to help.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1683280 - 07/03/03 08:29 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Exercise on a regular basis can do the same thing as anti-depressants for most people.You'll feel better,and that makes you feel better.
If youre feeling suicidal,go see a doctor.Sometimes you get stuck in a rut,and its really hard to get out.Dont be too proud to ask for help !! Everybody needs it sometimes.


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Re: depression [Re: StopThat]
    #1683317 - 07/03/03 08:39 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Im not too proud to ask for help im to afraid a doc will just wanna stick me on some sort of antidepressent.And the thign about exercising im just too tired all the time (i sleep sometimes for a day at time where as other times ill just be really lethargic and tired but not able to sleep like tonight for example) cept wehn im really happy and hyper almost on the verge of psychosis.Like i said ill bee really depressed for a long time then outta no where for no reason ill just be really happy running around like a lunatic ranting and raving.Then ill go right back to being dpressed.If i could only get my hands on some more quaaludes they just make me feel void of all emotion the way i like it.


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Re: depression [Re: StopThat]
    #1683414 - 07/03/03 09:02 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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Exercise on a regular basis can do the same thing as anti-depressants for most people.




You're right on target here. Nobody hates exercise more than I do, but if I don't force myself to do it, I feel like crap all the time, emotionally and physically. Give it a try. If you really hate the gym, try biking or swimming, find a group to play volley ball with, join a bowling league; anything will work.

One other thing I can suggest is to think optimistically and try to smile more. While not conclusive, there are studies that show an improvement in mood when someone smiles even if the smile is fake; after a while, the smile takes on a life of its own and becomes genuine.

Something else that works for me when I'm down is to consider what percentile in the 'happiness scale' my life fits into given the state of the human population. By that, I mean this: think of the world as containing 100 people. The person at the 1st percentile is the most miserable, poor, starving, lonely person on Earth, and the person at the 100th percentile is the richest, happiest, person with the most good friends on earth. Just considering that I live in a rich country, never want for food or shelter, have family and a few friends that care about me puts me way above the 50th percentile which makes my life far better than the vast majority of the people on earth.

Sure, more money, friends, whatever would be better, but if I think of my life in the terms I just described, it's really hard to be down. I just can't get depressed when there are millions (billions?) of people on the Earth who wish they were as well off as I am (and you are).

Best of luck to you!

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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1683416 - 07/03/03 09:02 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Again im sorry if i sound all whinny and shit but i just really needed to vent and get this off my chest ive never really been able to tell anyone in my real life exactly how i felt and still dont know if i can.And agian i apologize that anyone had to read thisi dont want to burden anyone with my shit. And im sure my problems sound mundane which they are its not just them sometimes i can just feel really depressed for no reason at all and i dont know why even at points in my life where things werent so bad.And thank you all of you for trying to help ill take all of your advice into consideration.

PS its not so much that im suicidal i dont want to kill my self i just want to be killed and not in any way that i had something to do with it just like an act of god type of thing.


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Re: depression [Re: Diploid]
    #1683450 - 07/03/03 09:10 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Oh i know im well of (or at least more well of than alot of other people) but im not always depressed because of the problems i have in my life sometimes im jst depressed for no reason for example id be really happy one second cause things seem like ther going good in my life and ill only be thinking positive thoughts then my mood just swings really low for no reason at all.(though like 60% of the time its me festering on all the bad points in my life that make me depressed).It also works in the oppeset direction ill be really depressed one second festering on all the bad things in my life then the next second ill be happy as a pig in shit for no reason what so ever.(though 90% of the time im just really depressed but i do get these weird mood swings semi often).


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1683478 - 07/03/03 09:18 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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i apologize that anyone had to read thisi dont want to burden anyone




Hey, stop apologizing. We're all friends here in every way that counts. You're not the only one who's turned to the 'shroomunity' for help.

The more I read your posts, the more I'm convinced you need to get out and find a hobby that will engage your mind and body, and will help you meet new friends.

There's got to be something you like to do that you can afford. Learn to SCUBA dive, bike, learn to fly, get a radio-control car and join a club, c'mon, think of something; there must be a zillion things you could do. You'll be glad you did!

-Diploid


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: depression [Re: Diploid]
    #1683516 - 07/03/03 09:36 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

The only problem with that is that im not really good at anything i cant find one thing that i can excell at.Im just a total failure.Everything ive tried id fail at.And i do get out though mabey not as much as i should and as for being able to afford things i can barely afford anything much less a hobby man theres not much you can do on $6.15 an hour.


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Re: depression [Re: Diploid]
    #1683537 - 07/03/03 09:47 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hobbies.... HObbies.. HOBBIES!!!!

You are simply bored, not depressed!

You got a computer, so you're not THAT broke, got a bike?


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683549 - 07/03/03 09:56 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

This computer is like 6 years old which i also got for free cause my dad used to work for some company and he got this for me its slow as shit i dont even have enough money to buy a new 56k modem man since mine broke i have to use a 36k and no i dont have a bike or car or much at all (though as i previously stated i am very grateful that i am able to afford the necessitys in life that alot of people out thre cant thought i really dont need much luxuary really either id just like to be able to afford a few certain things like cable tv a ne comp and some sort of broadband conection)and im not bored i can tell the difference between feeling sad and feeling bored.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1683553 - 07/03/03 09:58 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

being very occupied takes you mind off the sad state.

Do you live with your parents or alone?


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683563 - 07/03/03 10:01 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I live with my mom parents are divorced my dad i rarely see though would like too more often.

Edit:even when my mind is occupied i tend to just drift off and think aobut it its almost like theres no escape no hope.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1683579 - 07/03/03 10:10 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Positive thinking.. get a library card.. free.. and read up on self help books!


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683584 - 07/03/03 10:13 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Already got me a library card im there all the time man i love to fuckin read.But yeah mabey i should check out the self help section.


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683598 - 07/03/03 10:17 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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being very occupied takes you mind off the sad state.




Exactly!

So, do you play chess? Checkers? Monopoly? You can play online with real people. Try Yahoo and type in "games" or "chess". Get some skates, go to a park and find someone to play tennis with. Shoot some hoops, basketballs are cheap. Ever get insomnia? Join an astronomy club; you don't need a telescope to do that, just your eyes (you have eyes, right? Yet another thing to be happy about; there are lots of blind people around who aren't as fortunate as we). Get out of the house, man. Go for a walk... anything. Four walls and a ceiling all the time can be really depressing! Go to a club, and dance your ass off.

Find a girlfriend/boyfriend/goat or whatever you're into. Plant a garden. Grow some mushrooms.

The way I see it is you've got nothing to do and nobody to do it with, so you're naturally getting depressed. If you find something you like to keep you busy, your mind won't wonder.

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3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: depression [Re: Diploid]
    #1683657 - 07/03/03 10:42 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Get a pet..

fish are a start, but not too much fun.
A cat is easy to care for
a dog will love you for life! and cheer you up every time you walk thru the door!


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1683814 - 07/03/03 11:47 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

"
Again im sorry if i sound all whinny and shit but i just really needed to vent and get this off my chest ive never really been able to tell anyone in my real life exactly how i felt and still dont know if i can
"

  First thing, your problems and suffering are valid and its quite reasonable to seek out help.  Don't feel like you're being a burden, I actually believe that there is a certain sort of happiness that can only come from helping others and so by masking whats bothering you all the time you are actually doing people a disservice.

  Anyhow I don't think you're clinical yet, you're going through pretty typical feelings and though its hard its not (watch out, cliche ahead) the end of the world.

  I always tell people who are depressed and not healthy with their current health to exercise.  I dunno if I can offer my advice at that point.  But when I'm really down and out and alone the only things that make me happy are drugs or exercise.  Anyhow while the drugs don't solve any problems, the exercise has free benefits.

  I don't recommend a lot of reading.  You're probably reading enough. :smile:  Well okay reading is good but you need to make time to go out and try new things and make socialization.


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Re: depression [Re: PooPs]
    #1683822 - 07/03/03 11:52 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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Get a pet..




Want a cat?  :smile:
 


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1685029 - 07/03/03 09:17 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Why are you stuck in your current job? What is stopping you from getting a job you don't hate and they pay you more than $6.15 an hour? Getting a better job (there's bound to be heaps of other jobs out there that pay better than that) can help. I've found that some of my most miserable moments in life were when I was doing a job that I absolutely dispise. Start hunting for another job and see what pops up.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1685038 - 07/03/03 09:23 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Hey..I'd like to say I can relate (though I know that I can't really since I don't know what you think inside your head, or experience your day to day life) .. but I have this problem where I usually get depressed every other night or so. I'm a happy person you know, I understand that there are things to live for in this life.. but then I dwell on the details and I get severly depressed. I also get highly insecure and paranoid. Do you get insecure/paranoid?

First offf - even though I know this is a drug related forum and all, I'd like to say.. drugs are not the answer. No one should ever do drugs just to make them feel better about their problems.. it doesnt help it. Secondly, don't think your life is over at 18, you Can change, you can become something you want and enjoy your life better. There are So many people who don't know what to focus on in their life and who believe theres nothing they are good at.. Most people don't reach "enlightment" just to put it in a term, until they are Past their 30's. People spend their entire lives revolving around things in life that don't really make them happy, or are not really what they are good at. If you work to figure out what you want/need/ and can do.. I promise you, you will be much better off.

Go to college.. It will probably be hard.. and financial problems can make it even harder (trust me I know, I'm practically poor).. but there is Financial aid - there are grants and loans - my entire College freshman year is being paid by other people practically. Even if you can't declare a major, you can at least explore different areas of education.. you can volunteer in work places.. Experience different things - there is always going to be at least One thing that you are good at.

Pet willl probably help,

I can promise you, that I know that Chris genuinely cares about you and enjoy your company. He told me last night about how much he wished he could talk to me about the things you guys talked about, and you make him have fun and laugh. I always told him that I wished I had a friendship like the two of you do - someone I felt comfortable with and could spend time with whenever...


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Re: depression [Re: acidcrys]
    #1686511 - 07/04/03 01:31 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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Start hunting for another job and see what pops up.




Great advice this may be the change you need.
How is youre sense of humor i coulnt have got this far in life without one
I tell you its kept me alive mentaly and socialy.


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Re: depression [Re: trev]
    #1687315 - 07/05/03 12:50 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Ive been looking for a job for about 3 months right now every where i go theres no one hiring.As for feeling insecure and paranoid all the time you could ask chris how much of a paranoid person i am.And while yes i do use drugs to escape reality sometimees its nto all te time but there are just sometiems wehre reality is way to fucking hard to deal with.I actually have a good sense of humor im told.Life just dosent seem worth going on man.And when i say im not god at anything i mean it im not good at anything everything ive tried ive failed i have no tlaents or skills.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1687744 - 07/05/03 09:46 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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And while yes i do use drugs to escape reality sometimees its nto all te time




The big problem with using drugs to feel better when you're down is that when they wear off, you return to below baseline. That's not a problem when you're happy to start with and use drugs for fun; returning to below baseline isn't so bad then. But when you're already down, it can very persuasively lead you to use drugs again. This cycles ratchets you down further and further until things become hapless. It's happened to stronger-willed people than you and it can happen to you too if you're not careful.

On the bright side, exercise can give you some of the same uplifting effects without the down. Give it a shot!

-Diploid


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1689405 - 07/06/03 02:00 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

i know how ya feel man.... every time i get close to climbing out of this hole im in, life comes along and kicks dirt in my face, steps on my fingers and i fall back to the bottom...then its back to trying to claw my way back up the side of the hole, and it sucks cause the soils all loose and shit... but anyway, its like someone else said, no matter how bad things are theres someone who would love to have your life. any time i start getting all depressed about this rut im stuck in, i try to think of all the things that are going good in my life. its really easy to pay attention to the shitty things when they are going on, but the good things are there too. my legs work for one, how much worse would it be if i had to cart around in a wheelchair. i live in america, which sux sometimes, but being in tucson all i got to do is drive an hour south into nogales mexico to see that its not really all that bad. roof over my head, bed to sleep in.... i may be fat, but at least i got food on my plate.


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1690784 - 07/06/03 05:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

i'm 20 and have been depressed off and on since i was 12. i've had numerous shrinks talk at me (i just stared at them blankly), had no less than 8 different drugs prescribed to me over the years, but only two things ever helped me get to the point where i am now. firstly, ziggy, my dog. i used him as my counsellor, he didn't question my past, or criticise my feelings, only let me shout, cry, whatever i needed while cuddling up to me and licking my tears. i really do believe i would be dead without him. i od'd 3 years ago and was lying semi-conscious and drifting further away, and he kept biting me all over, even drew blood, until i woke up enough to make myself sick. when i left home 2 years ago, i moved to england from belgium, ziggy couldn't join me for 3 months. i spent those 3 months pacing my house, sobbing uncontrollably, smashing things, and suicide was constantly on my mind. i don't know whether it's knowing he exists only for me and loves me unconditionally, but my dog is definately my saviour. it's the best feeling to know you're needed. the second thing that changed me happened only a few months ago. i said to myself, quite simply, "fuck it" . it really doesn't matter if i'm depressed. i am what i am, and if i want to sit around crying and dwelling on things, so be it. and you know, i stopped. you've got to put things into perspective, i think, and realize that you're the only one who can do anything about yourself. i used to get one negative thought in my mind about myself and worry myself stupid until everything got out of proportion. so, i suppose my advice ( and shit, it sounds so simple after all i, and anyone who's suffered from this bastard depression, have been through) is to realize your own significance, or indeed, insignificance in this life, and get yourself something to love and love you back. feel free to email me anytime, if i can do anything to help, believe me i will. ginosmuffkin@hotmail.com


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Re: depression [Re: glimmi]
    #1695304 - 07/08/03 01:31 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I am a firm believer in anti-depressants. Being depressed for years on end can manifest itself in many ways. A lot of times in men it takes the form of rage. Sometimes it is lethargy.

It's hard as hell to get out of bed. If you have such huge mood swings you could just be chemically imbalanced. If you do go to a doctor and he prescribes something for you like an SSRI then you should at least try it. If it doesn't work, tell the doctor and keep shopping. However, I don't think an SSRI is necessarily the right choice for someone who is bipolar. You are hooked up to the internet, so do some research of your own. Google search depression, or bipolar, and include treatment. There are many ways and there is not any one pill that will make EVERYONE better. Everyone's chemistry is different. My take on it is that I'm not being doped up for the sake of being doped up. I can waste years being depressed until I pull out of it, or I can be productive and active on it. Saying that you don't believe in antidepressants is akin to having your hand cutoff and not going to the doctor to try and re-attach it. Believe it or not, being on an antidepressant is beginning to lose its stigma. While you are on it you can start to productively explore other ways in order to rid yourself of your imbalance. Why would you try to do that kind of searching while in the pit of despair?

Shop around.

-RR68


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Re: depression [Re: RANKSRAGGY68]
    #1695471 - 07/08/03 03:01 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I agree. Antidepressants are not that bad for your health either. In fact being depressed has health ramifications that are far worse than those that might arise from taking antidepressants. You get some side effects if you are not on the right antidepressants, in which case you might have to try a few different ones. Though depression causes lowered immune function, depressed people are eg. less likely to live after a diagnosis of cancer, and more likely to succumb to sucky diseases, and depression is associated with increased cortisol secretion which can cause brain atrophy! (no joke - though it corrects itself when you are no longer depressed).

I would suggest forcing yourself to do activities you previously enjoyed - even if you don't feel like it - scheduling eg. one a day, or 3 times a week. It would be a good idea to see a counsellor if there is some way you can access one. I would recommend the book 'Learned Optimism' by martin seligman too - there should be one in your library too. Chapter 12 has some great practical strategies that might help to begin to lift your mood, if you just wanted to photocopy that section. Exercise, socialising getting a pet, etc. are also good ideas.


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Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation as kids, we'd all be running around in a darkened room, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.

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"My motto from here on out is: If someone or something (including me) in my life is conducting themselves in such a way that they can be seen on Jerry Springer, it's time to take out the garbage!!! When you stop taking their behaviour personally and see their antics as a true reflection on their character, it becomes absolutely nauseating." Anon. on abusive relationships.


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Re: depression [Re: enotake2]
    #1695829 - 07/08/03 08:00 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

"Help Yourself" by dave pelzer is a good one to read too....he says a lot of things that'll probably make you want to slap him, but also a lot of really useful points.


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