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OfflineTheDeathryder
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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: zepski]
    #16826205 - 09/10/12 10:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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We only get mad because its a rule...




Rule #3 to be exact.  It's placed there to protect our vendors and prevent unwanted attention on both ends.

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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16826403 - 09/10/12 10:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Duly noted.

Will give an update on setup/progress soon.

Much appreciation for info and suggestions.

Happy trips, everyone

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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: Und3rtow623]
    #16826460 - 09/10/12 10:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Wasn't saying that anyone is in the wrong for being mad about mentioning a vendor. Just so everyone knows. Was just trying to say it in the nicest way.


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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: JostVanDyke]
    #16826507 - 09/10/12 11:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It's a rule that most of us have broken at one time or another.  Sometimes when a person gets excited about their upcoming mycological adventure, as most of us do, it becomes easy to type the vendor's name without even realizing the infraction.

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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16827767 - 09/11/12 07:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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You can inoculate WBS with a spore syringe, just don't shake it until it's about 33% colonized.  This is particularly important after inoculation because you want the spores as close together as possible.
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Deathryder your totally cool and i ttoally respect you but I hafta jump on this
thats 10000000% incorrect. old outdated info. i shake my jars at inoculation, at 30%, and again 2 days after it recovers. I shake em like morraccas and they are at 100% within 5 days (after germination)
people use different stratagies and you just have to learn whats right for you but my point is simply that you CAN and SHOULD shake after inoculation. it makes a HUGE difference in time. I do this to all my jars and I go thru more than I would like to admit.
the only time your mycelium wont recover from shaking is if its contaminated. and all that stuff about mycelium using up "mystic mushroom force power" to recover itself after shaking is completly asinine. I'v shaken my grain LC like 50 times and i still get great flushes

shake away guys its totally the bees knees



the other question i wanted to hit was "can i use spores on WBS"  yes! iv scraped spores right off the print into the jar and it worked.  Dont do that tho becasue its a good way to get contams. my point is it works!


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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: Grumpyorc]
    #16827850 - 09/11/12 08:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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TheDeathryder said:
You can inoculate WBS with a spore syringe, just don't shake it until it's about 33% colonized.  This is particularly important after inoculation because you want the spores as close together as possible.
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Deathryder your totally cool and i ttoally respect you but I hafta jump on this
thats 10000000% incorrect. old outdated info. i shake my jars at inoculation, at 30%, and again 2 days after it recovers. I shake em like morraccas and they are at 100% within 5 days (after germination)
people use different stratagies and you just have to learn whats right for you but my point is simply that you CAN and SHOULD shake after inoculation. it makes a HUGE difference in time. I do this to all my jars and I go thru more than I would like to admit.
the only time your mycelium wont recover from shaking is if its contaminated. and all that stuff about mycelium using up "mystic mushroom force power" to recover itself after shaking is completly asinine. I'v shaken my grain LC like 50 times and i still get great flushes

shake away guys its totally the bees knees



the other question i wanted to hit was "can i use spores on WBS"  yes! iv scraped spores right off the print into the jar and it worked.  Dont do that tho becasue its a good way to get contams. my point is it works!




I gotta jump back on this :smile:

In the majority of posts I've read where the jars were shaken immediately after a multispore inoculation, colonization was reported to have taken longer.  We know that unmated mycelium (monokaryotic) takes longer to colonize than mated mycelium (dikaryotic) does, so it is most assuredly in the cultivator's best interest to keep the spores as close together as possible, and shake after partial colonization has been achieved.

I think you're having a lucky situation of "it works for me" :smile:

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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16827873 - 09/11/12 08:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I inoculate grains jars and shake them. Then Inoculate again.
Probably use 1 1/2CC Per Quart jar. Usually I have multiple
spots of growth. And always where the last inoculation was
made.

But I also dry my grains well, as to not fuck up the moisture
content horribly.


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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16827878 - 09/11/12 08:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Or he's using LC?

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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: GoldenArrow]
    #16828311 - 09/11/12 10:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Or he's using LC?




I believe the OP stated that they are planing to use a multispore syringe (I'll have to go back and check when I have more time available).  Shaking after a LC inoculation would definitely be beneficial.

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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16828385 - 09/11/12 11:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I meant maybe orc man is using LC and that's why his experience differs! :laugh:

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Re: Getting started - this is what we're working with *first time poster [Re: GoldenArrow]
    #16828400 - 09/11/12 11:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I think Grumpyorc was making 2 points on 2 separate methods, I'm pretty sure I've read him post about inoculation from spores as well as LC.  I know for sure that he has the experience to comment on either method :smile:

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