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OfflineOysterFace
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WTF?? wierd pinning behavior
    #16828383 - 09/11/12 11:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

got a good first flush... had high hopes for the second flush with a nice pinset and all. 5 days after the first flush it seems to be fizzling out and some of the pins are flattening out before growing.  what is this from??


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: OysterFace]
    #16828388 - 09/11/12 11:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Crappy fruiting conditions. Possible lack of light,
and the substrate looks really wet. You just mist?


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16828424 - 09/11/12 11:13 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

no, there is a humidifier in there running on low. i fan it several times a day and a fan recirculates air every hour.  stays between 90-100% RH.


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16828429 - 09/11/12 11:15 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure they are not from the last flush? Last time I grew cubes I noticed a lot of pins from the first flush opened up a few days after harvesting.


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: weetsie]
    #16828435 - 09/11/12 11:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yes, all those pins were there after the first flush was harvested. but from what i have read i thought those were the pins for the next flush.  even so.. why would they do this??


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: OysterFace]
    #16828458 - 09/11/12 11:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I said the substrate looks really wet, not dry.
The humidifier is awful close, are you sure it's not
leaving the substrate excessively damp?

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yes, all those pins were there after the first flush was harvested. but from what i have read i thought those were the pins for the next flush.  even so.. why would they do this??




What is your method of lighting.


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: OysterFace]
    #16828472 - 09/11/12 11:27 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

65k bulb 12 on 12 off.  the substrate does get a little wet sometimes, but then the humidifier is turned down and it drys out a little.  it tends to swing back and forth diurnally as the temp flucuates slightly and the humidifier is adjusted.


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: OysterFace]
    #16828476 - 09/11/12 11:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'd say from those pins, your substrate is saturated. :shrug:


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16828531 - 09/11/12 11:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Is that perlite mixed into the casing layer?


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16828547 - 09/11/12 11:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd say from those pins, your substrate is saturated. :shrug:




I was misunderstood. From a search result I found that
the caps opening early is a sign of low moisture content
in the substrate or to high. How does the tub feel when
lifted? Light or heavy as the day you put it into fruiting?


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: OysterFace]
    #16828977 - 09/11/12 01:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

heavy, i think it is simply too moist from the humidifier.  gonna change that a little to decrease the condensation on the surface.

yes, that is perlite.. verm and coir as well.


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: OysterFace]
    #16831011 - 09/11/12 07:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, I would never use a coir, verm, perlite mixture as a substrate. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. I see that I have a lot of work over the next few months


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: tahoe]
    #16831408 - 09/11/12 08:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting thread I wish you the best of luck.  :smile:

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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: arkady2300]
    #16831943 - 09/11/12 09:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Substrate is too saturated. I would cut the usage of the humidifier down a bit.


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: Wing]
    #16832624 - 09/11/12 11:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Have you soaked it since you harvested the previous mushrooms? Even with the surface being as wet as it is that's not going to replenish all the water used up already from the flush. It could be getting dehydrated.


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: Kizzle]
    #16832660 - 09/12/12 12:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah man i would say it is to wet that is why they are doing that... fan more to get that water out of there and stop puting so much water into it


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: Jdiz]
    #16832993 - 09/12/12 01:40 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldnt say that it is too wet but. How long have you guys been using perlite in the substrate? Why isnt this thing cased?


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Re: WTF?? wierd pinning behavior [Re: tahoe]
    #16833774 - 09/12/12 09:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

People don't normally use perlite in a substrate.


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