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spooner
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Idea to kill trich
#16827722 - 09/11/12 07:33 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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So little green spots have infected my monotub sadly and im tryin to keep it alive ((( I have barbicide which is fungicide and germicide, If I put that on a q tip and isolated the barbicide to the trich and avoid the myc, do you think this would be effective?
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16827727 - 09/11/12 07:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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No... fungicides only kill spores.
You can try and 'subdue' it with a Salt Paste.(Search Engine) To allow you to harvest all of your flush. Other then that, the longer you keep it in your house the more spores it will blow everywhere.
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Edited by DynGBreeD (09/11/12 07:56 AM)
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16827783 - 09/11/12 07:55 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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DynGBreeD said: No... fungicides only kill spores.
You can try and 'subdue' it with a Salt Paste.(Search Engine) To allow you to harvest all of your flush. Other then that, the longer you keep it in your hows the more spores it will blow everywhere.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: HybridprX]
#16827788 - 09/11/12 07:59 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your only choice is to employ the dumpster tek
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: Grumpyorc]
#16827793 - 09/11/12 08:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grumpyorc said: Your only choice is to employ the dumpster tek
lol @ dumpster tek rofl!
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: ya der eh]
#16827848 - 09/11/12 08:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can tub be reused?
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16827900 - 09/11/12 08:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course... If cleaned well. Lot's will suggest a bleach/water solution. I usually just find some good antibacterial Dish Soap and wash the shit out of it with the hose outside. Then again inside with some hotter water.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16827914 - 09/11/12 08:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why would this happen? I followed my teks perfectly, waited Till WBA fully colonized, sub layer colonized great, then right before I fruit it bam! Green!
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16827934 - 09/11/12 09:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not familiar with WBA.
What Tek did you use. Odd's are the contaminate has been there. Proper pasteurization could of been your problem if using Damion's Tek.
Sub layer you mean casing?
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16828090 - 09/11/12 09:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I mistyped wbs and I did use damions tek
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828113 - 09/11/12 09:55 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828117 - 09/11/12 09:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you make sure the coir you bought wasn't the stuff that contains trich already in it. Some does...some does not. I've used coir on my monos and they have been getting to the 3rd or 4th flush before any sign of trich setting in.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: ya der eh]
#16828129 - 09/11/12 09:59 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^ True.
Coir used for Hydroponic use has purposely added Trich. You may use it already, but look at your local pet store for Zoo Med Eco Earth Coir.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828135 - 09/11/12 10:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you have a big nesco cooker I would suggest using that for pasteurization. It works great. You can get one for about 30 bucks at slavemart(wally world). Damion5050s' recipe fits nicely inside the nesco leaving an inch or 2 at the top to stir it occasionally. I set it at its lowest setting 150 and in about 40-50 minutes the entire batch is at temp. Once at temp I leave it in the nesco at 150 for 2 hrs. Never had a problem yet. My nesco has 2 little breather holes in the lid. I place tape over them when using. There you have it the nesco tek lol! Take care!
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16828168 - 09/11/12 10:13 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I get my coir from the pet store it's reptile bedding, do I have to pasture use the coir first before using?
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828182 - 09/11/12 10:15 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course you have to pasteurize it.
Bring the Coir/Verm to moisture capacity. Bring it to 140-160 degrees on the stove for one hour.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16828191 - 09/11/12 10:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did everything it said about the 5 gallon bucket is that not pastureizing?
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828196 - 09/11/12 10:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Um no.... The method does work. But not for everyone. It is not PROPER pasteurization.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16828221 - 09/11/12 10:27 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok so follow what that link you posted says to do? Instead of bucket tek? And this works for a mono tub?
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828229 - 09/11/12 10:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, and yes.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16828295 - 09/11/12 10:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome thx for the info, so I'm assuming isolating a part of the monotub woul be useless sinc the trichs prob. All up in the whole thing?
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828302 - 09/11/12 10:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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If its already turned green, odds are its already exploded spores all over. You could set it outside, weather permitting. Or bury it in a good spot.
Ditch it after you harvest.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16828615 - 09/11/12 11:55 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like to trash everything if I have green mold. Thoroughly cleaning a tub isnt worth the 10 bucks to buy a new one.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: spooner]
#16828831 - 09/11/12 12:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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spooner said: Awesome thx for the info, so I'm assuming isolating a part of the monotub woul be useless sinc the trichs prob. All up in the whole thing?
Pretty much. The mold can grow into the areas of the substrate with mushroom mycelium. You won't see it there because it's some of it is microscopic and it looks a lot of mycelium anyway but eventually it will start popping up all over even if you remove all the visible mold.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: DynGBreeD]
#16828988 - 09/11/12 01:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you have a big nesco cooker I would suggest using that for pasteurization. It works great.
What size Nesco do you use. This one?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nesco-6-Qt.-Roaster-Oven-w-Porcelain-Cookwell-in-Stainless-Steel/15629005
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: Browser]
#16829579 - 09/11/12 03:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Browser said:
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If you have a big nesco cooker I would suggest using that for pasteurization. It works great.
What size Nesco do you use. This one?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nesco-6-Qt.-Roaster-Oven-w-Porcelain-Cookwell-in-Stainless-Steel/15629005
This is what I use. Actual model is a Rival Roaster Oven 18quart. Most start at 200 degrees this one starts at 150 degrees so be sure to look for that if picking one up. Might even find at a goodwill or something on that order. I bought this one between thanksgiving and christmas a year or 2 back and it was on sale. Searched amazon for you and found them starting at 21.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000G0HPEI/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1347397950&sr=8-1&keywords=rival+roaster+oven&condition=new

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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: ya der eh]
#16829762 - 09/11/12 03:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Allow me to chime my two cents....
Coir and verm are extremely contaminate resistant, enough so that I can say that 99% of the time if it does get trich it's from the spawn or the tub was left exposed (Not properly covered)
Although, in some rare cases it can be attributed to a above normal mold count in the grow room....In such cases, its best to just move.
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If its got the little yellow frog on it and the brand is called Eko Terra, good stuff, I use it. Most all reptile centers carry the same brand.
The other awesome thing about coir/verm is that you can bring it to perfect feild capacity by pre-measuring the amount of water prior to boiling, its what I do. No need to squeeze dry or anything like that..... It should have worked for you op, pasteurizing on the stove can get messy if it over boils, pasteurizing in the monotub is much more simple then fumbling around with pillow cases or burlap bags too (although the burlap bags are awesome for manure)
Try again op, it was not your procedure.
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: HybridprX]
#16830137 - 09/11/12 04:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Searched amazon for you and found them starting at 21.99
Thank you for the information
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Re: Idea to kill trich [Re: Browser]
#16830280 - 09/11/12 05:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Petsmart. 3 bricks-7bucks
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