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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: hamloaf]
#21450523 - 03/24/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno]
#21450596 - 03/24/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great thread . Just what I needed I put some these spores to plates 2 days ago . Has anyone had any luck getting fruit indoors with this one?
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: funkyfish77]
#21450625 - 03/24/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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not that I know of, but I'd be interested to hear people chime in 
I guess you'd need to coldshock them as they wait until there's that nip in the air until they fruit
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno] 1
#21450934 - 03/24/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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they love them some microbes, i'm not aware of any indoor success
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: cronicr]
#21454893 - 03/25/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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The best thread on woodlovers.
Hope you can advise me on few things. I've got quite a lot chips fully colonized and want to put them into pots. 1) What ratio would you suggest for the mix of fresh and colonized chips? 2) Did you cover the pots with cardboard and if not how do you know when to water them? 3) How big are your pots ( height and/or diameter)?
Wished i could se results like this. I miss UK so much, always had great hunting there.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: cronicr]
#21458102 - 03/25/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr said: they love them some microbes, i'm not aware of any indoor success
I've given this a bit of thought and I wondered if anyone has tried an indoor grow that is in the right temperature range...
AND by adding a thin casing of leaf mold or some chopped up dead grass collected from outside. It occurred to me that this might supply those microbes and symbiotic relationships that may facilitate pinning and fruiting.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#21540444 - 04/13/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey Psynonim,
Thanks for the big ups 
in answer, I did a ratio of about 60/40 - chips to spawn. but I'm sure it can be stretched if you want. I covered them with all sorts, but found something that kept most of the direct sun out, but let in all the rain was best. like those big plastic bread carriers the supermarkets use, that worked well. I just watered them when I remembered... it was quite a rainy summer if I remember. but picked them up now and again to see how heavy they were. it was a rough estimation. the pots were about 18" tall I'd say... average plant pots
PsiloPsychIn - I'd say living at the right temp range would be fine until late sept when you need a cold snap. 'a smell of frost in the air' kinda cold. LEaf mold keeping it all moist is definitely a good idea. Give it a try and let us know how you get along mate
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno]
#21541689 - 04/13/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey Keeno Welcome home? My lemon thyme is growing... but it's tricky. Tasty to prune a small stem here and there. =) mine are spindly under the grow light.
I've got some Cyanofriscosa on rye and some on agar. It is all looking pretty good, hoping to transfer to some wood chips in a few weeks. It seems to grow a lot slower than cubes.
Thanks for all your guidance in this thread (and the awesome photos). PsiloPsychIn
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#21545037 - 04/14/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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howdy Psilo, yup back home now after AWESOME JAPAN!!! it's bloody awesome, everyone should go there. just not all at once, it's pretty crowded as it is 
gonna get on the thyme this week so I'll keep you informed, and have a couple of Allenii updates to come.
I have created a 2nd batch of grain jars (I had spores and I had grain and I had jars... what choice did I have?) which are coming on slowly, then I just have to work out what the hell to do with them, and source a load of egg cartons (such a luxury of a problem to have eh?) the first batch is now in woodchip beds in the back garden. gonna keep a close eye on them.
I'm also gonna work out a few sites around here that would be good for guerilla grows, and work out the best delivery system so far I figured grains + soaked woodchips + soaked paper (for extra water) shoved into a toilet roll and buried under the woodchips... if anyone has other thoughts on how I can distribute the grains into public beds, pleas feel free to comment 
I'm also trying a LC from the water I'd soaked the woodchips in for 3 weeks. I had spores left and figured why not? so 2 jars of liquid were PC'd for 2 hours, then inoculated with 2cc of spore solution. I'll let you know how they go 
cheers all!
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno]
#21552826 - 04/15/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why not do sawdust spawn instead of the grains. It colonizes well with a little bran added.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno] 1
#21553355 - 04/15/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm also trying a LC from the water I'd soaked the woodchips in for 3 weeks. I had spores left and figured why not? so 2 jars of liquid were PC'd for 2 hours, then inoculated with 2cc of spore solution. I'll let you know how they go 
cheers all!

Hey - keeno. Nice work on your wood-loving Psilo grows.
Hope you diluted the heck out of that woodchip LC. PC'ing for 2 hours may have caused the medium to caramelize. It's only needed to sterilize liquid mediums for 45 minutes unless you are going with more than 750ml's of liquid medium to be sterilized at once. At that point it's safe to increase the sterilization duration to an hour and, or slightly above, as well as increase measures to gas exchange.
Inoculating LC with spores is an inferior way of inoculating LC, because the odds of your inoculm (spores) carrying contams with them is not only coupled by the use of wild spores, but also, any contam that IS present in your spore solution WILL become germinated in the nutrient rich liquid medium and grown exponentially, 3-dimension-ally, in all directions. Competitor molds and bacteria have an advantage over cube mycelium in the way they grow, so, as a result, will totally dominate the liquid media.
Once an LC gets over run by contaminates, anything said hypothetically contaminated LC gets inoculated to will become contaminated as a result, no escape.
Better plan would have been to inoculate several more agar mediums than you think you will need times 4 with the spores, and expanding off of the cleanest, most vigorous growing cultures, discarding any cultures that become contaminated, and are poor colonizers.
Once you get growth in your LC as a result of being inoculated with your spores, you can ALWAYS aspire some LC and transfer it to agar, seeing 1, if you have a clean LC, and, or 2, gaining the ability to then be able to clean the culture by transferring clean mycelium away from the contamination plate, and onto freshly sterilized receiving plates, repeating the aforementioned process until a fully clean culture is generated.
Don't try to transfer contamination away from clean mycelium. Transferring contamination away from clean mycelium blasts contam spores all through out the work area ruining the project.
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keeno said: I'm also gonna work out a few sites around here that would be good for guerilla grows, and work out the best delivery system so far I figured grains + soaked woodchips + soaked paper (for extra water) shoved into a toilet roll and buried under the woodchips... if anyone has other thoughts on how I can distribute the grains into public beds, pleas feel free to comment 
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trout said: Why not do sawdust spawn instead of the grains. It colonizes well with a little bran added.

Launch your colonized grain spawn into hydrated, and sterilized sawdust blocks so that the sawdust, and or wood chips become colonized by mushroom mycelium BEFORE being inoculated into outdoor beds.
Inoculating your outdoor substrate/patch with colonized wood chip spawn as opposed to colonized grain spawn keeps would be grain predators such as rodents out of your patch in search of an easy meal.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: hamloaf]
#21556964 - 04/16/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks Ham glad you could join team stupid!! LOL! Your description was a little better articulated than mine though so you may not make the cut.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: trout] 2
#21557034 - 04/16/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey Keeno what up dude. Japan does kickass I went to Osaka and down south visiting a college mate living there. Fuckin awesome place, great ppl.
This was an experiment using LC and pouring the colonized content over cardboard lined container with Scotts earthgrow brown mulch from Home Depot. I poured and let sit for 24hrs then drained. I am now making more to pour over existing mulch beds all over.

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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: Viridis420]
#21558331 - 04/17/15 04:07 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey Hamloaf, nice one for chipping in, it's always good to hear from you  I'm afraid I didn't dilute the LC, and after doing some reading I reckon it's a non-starter. It was pretty much a case of "I wonder..." I had some spores left I wasn't going to use this year and thought fuck it, I'll whack them in. bad me
I think I may have to get some sort of decent SAB sorted if I'm to move to AGAR as my house is mouldy as fuck (damn you cheap landlord!!! ) and to be honest, I'm not sure if mycology is that important to me. I'm just so busy with work and the garden, added to me being an unproductive bum, there's just not that much time left
having said that I have about 3 litres of grain spawn that's going to be ready in 2 weeks... and not sure what to do with it. so might have to get me some sawdust and make some blocks to hide around town, see if I can get some guerilla action going. Cheers for the sawdust heads up Hamloaf and Trout 
and yeah Viridis420, Japan is amazing! just goes to show you what humaity can achieve when it's not being cajoled into being selfish fucks (damn you Consumerism!) lovely place and people!
and as to your LC< if I see any life in my murky brown jars of wrongness, I'll pour them into some woodchips, see if they take 
Cheers all!
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno]
#21576293 - 04/21/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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keeno said: hey Psynonim,
Thanks for the big ups 
in answer, I did a ratio of about 60/40 - chips to spawn. but I'm sure it can be stretched if you want. I covered them with all sorts, but found something that kept most of the direct sun out, but let in all the rain was best. like those big plastic bread carriers the supermarkets use, that worked well. I just watered them when I remembered... it was quite a rainy summer if I remember. but picked them up now and again to see how heavy they were. it was a rough estimation. the pots were about 18" tall I'd say... average plant pots

Thanks for your replay. I think I'm near your ratio. By bread carriers you mean this sort of printed film with a web of tiny holes?.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02125/breadf2_2125760b.jpg
Sorry for the link but I can't upload pictures (or it might be that I don't know how to ). My pots are bit smaller but I think they should be ok. They are about 13" tall with 12" in diameter at the top. I will try to get this type of film and will me all sorted. I watered my pots 2 hours ago an tomorrow after work I'm going to check their weight and will try to keep close to this during summer.
Did they fruit in 2014? Your pots I mean.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: Psynonim]
#21582955 - 04/23/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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nope, by bread carriers I mean one of these:


to upload pictures, get the address of the pic you wanted (google search, click on 'view this image' get http code) then click on the button 3rd from right above the text box (yellow mountains and sun) then input the http code and bingo!
so yeah, my pots fruited, but at a much lower rate that previous years, the spawn was pretty spent, but got 2 good years out of it
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno]
#21589033 - 04/24/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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latest update
so my last jar was well ready

to be honest, it looked like bacteria had gotten to it, so I was a bit worried... but I broke it up, opened it and it smelt purely of mushroom, no fermented smell or apples or anything, so fingers crossed
soaked egg trays for 20 mins loaded them up (8 trays from about 3/4 pint of spawn
for some I added some woodchip that had been boiled for an hour and left to soak (all pretty random, I wanted to do it fast and get them into the greenhouse)
I had a moment of concern when I thought I saw blue/ green... but it turned out to be bruising!! amazing that even at this stage they can turn blue.
then lashed them into a greenhouse with a tarp over it to keep out the direct sunlight I've put a sheet of greaseproof paper over each try to try and keep the humidity high around the grains and I'll monitor how damp the cardboard stays.
I am a bit worried about high temps. yesterday was sunny and even though this greenhouse is fully shaded most of the day, it does get some direct sunlight. the temperature never went above 78, so hoping it will be ok, otherwise I'll add more screening from the sunlight
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: keeno] 1
#21591351 - 04/24/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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You could use weed cloth as an effective light barrier.- not the black plastic but the cloth. It's breathable and cheap
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: Dune-grass] 2
#21592166 - 04/24/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thats awesome Keeno! good work!
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanofriscosa Keeno TEK 2015 redux [Re: cArcace-x]
#21593783 - 04/25/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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cheers all, I'll see how they come on a hot dry day and modify from there 
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