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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Icelander]
    #16813401 - 09/08/12 08:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well it essentially says the same thing Icelander, it says that the cycle of birth and death must be without beginning otherwise something would be presumed to be coming out of nothing. That the cycle is without beginning is a central aspect of reincarnation in the first place.

And babies do that because they lack depth perception, not because they lack fear of death.

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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: windowlikcer]
    #16813411 - 09/08/12 08:13 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That makes no more logical sense then something coming from nothing. :monkeydance:


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: windowlikcer]
    #16813414 - 09/08/12 08:13 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

All babies fear the strap because they were slaves in a past life and don't want to be whipped again.


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: windowlikcer]
    #16813421 - 09/08/12 08:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

And babies do that because they lack depth perception, not because they lack fear of death.

Nope. You're making shit up again. Babies old enough to crawl do not lack depth perception or they would be bumping into table legs all the time. In fact, they are quite good at avoiding obstacles.


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Diploid]
    #16813428 - 09/08/12 08:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Just like those little robo-vacuum cleaners. :yesnod:


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16813473 - 09/08/12 08:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not making shit up, as I explained in my first post this is from an interesting book I am reading and wanted to share. These aren't even my arguments and somehow I'm still being made to feel like a retard. I guess I should not have come here with this!

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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: windowlikcer]
    #16813499 - 09/08/12 08:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well, you're posting in a debate-oriented forum. Did you read the rules? Anything you post here is likely to be attacked in debate.

That said, I just noticed that your original post and follow up is mostly in quotation marks, so I take it back. You're not miking shit up, but your source seems to be.

Anyway, if you'd rather not have debate, I can move this thread to the S&M forum where everyone will agree with anything at all you might want to say and critique of any kind is expressly against the rules.

But I think you'll get a more meaningful dialog here. Your call.


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3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Diploid]
    #16813524 - 09/08/12 08:38 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think we have had meaningful dialog here for like 5 years.


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Diploid]
    #16813561 - 09/08/12 08:46 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

What would qualify as meaningful dialogue here?

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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: windowlikcer]
    #16813573 - 09/08/12 08:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

A no holds barred good faith heated debate.

If your ideas have merit, they'll hold up. But if they don't, they'll be torn to pieces. If you're attached to your ideas even if they happen to be demonstrably baloney and you don't don't want them attacked, get out now. But if you like the truth, whatever it may be, then stick around.

You can ask me to move the thread at any time and I'll do so as soon as I get your message.

Your call.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Diploid] * 1
    #16813603 - 09/08/12 08:54 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I want my threads to be nurtured and loved unconditionally.



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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Icelander]
    #16814002 - 09/08/12 09:54 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Does it make any less logical sense than something that has always been there?


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Cactilove]
    #16814005 - 09/08/12 09:55 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

than


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16814032 - 09/08/12 09:59 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Right, does it?


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Cactilove]
    #16814097 - 09/08/12 10:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

First I want some evidence before I process it through my logic filters.


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16814146 - 09/08/12 10:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

For which claim? Is there evidence for either?


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Cactilove]
    #16814370 - 09/08/12 11:13 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No there isn't imo.  That's the rub here.  It's just baseless speculation.  Why should I believe in reincarnation?  Answer= no good reason.


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: windowlikcer]
    #16814403 - 09/08/12 11:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

windowlikcer said:
"There can be remembrance only of things felt before. When anything is felt, it is stored in the mind. Its recollection is memory. Memory of the fear of death is found in all creatures. Death has not been experienced in this life. Therefore it must be concluded that it was experienced in a previous life. In this way, the existence of a previous life is established."






i would just like to point out that when something is felt it does not have to be stored in the mind, it can be put down on paper and avarious artforms and can then be expirienced by future generations


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: venetianblinds]
    #16814439 - 09/08/12 11:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

When a flower comes back to life, is that reincarnation?


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Re: best argument for reincarnation I have ever read [Re: Icelander]
    #16814674 - 09/09/12 12:17 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Nothing lasts but nothing is lost:wink:


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