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OfflineWaitingfortheWorms
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Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated?
    #16809806 - 09/08/12 07:21 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So I'm just starting my first grow and I'm wondering how I keep my vermiculite from inviting contaminants considering the bag is not resealable? I had to leave with haste last night so I just put the bag in a garbage bag, tied it up and put some tape over the hole to prevent any from spilling out. Do you think I may have ruined it?

I know I need to steam sterilize the BRF mixture anyway but what I'm worried about is the dry layer you are meant to put on the top 1/2 inch of the jar

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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: WaitingfortheWorms]
    #16809810 - 09/08/12 07:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

the dry layer gets steam sterilized too sooo no problems there


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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: WaitingfortheWorms]
    #16809841 - 09/08/12 07:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

All verm going in your brf mixture needs to be steamed or PC'ed. So that doesn't matter. Now if you are worried about dirty verm for a dunk and roll or somethin, throw in your oven for an hour at 250 to 300.


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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: Hellyen]
    #16809853 - 09/08/12 07:38 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That's total overkill. Fully colonized cakes are almost completely contam
resistant. There is no need whatsoever to back Vermiculite for a roll.

But yes, if your that worried you could waste your time/effort and put it
in the oven.


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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16809861 - 09/08/12 07:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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DynGBreeD said:
That's total overkill. Fully colonized cakes are almost completely contam
resistant. There is no need whatsoever to back Vermiculite for a roll.

But yes, if your that worried you could waste your time/effort and put it
in the oven.




I agree I never do. But that's what paranoid people do. And this guy seems worried.


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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: Hellyen]
    #16809881 - 09/08/12 07:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i have used an opened bag of verm that was forgot about in the bottom of some cat urinated closet for a year and still worked wonders...


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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: Z O M G]
    #16809890 - 09/08/12 07:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Once you sterilize your cakes the verm will be ok .. I have used verm that was about 2 years old !!! with 100% success .

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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: guitaristjon22]
    #16809949 - 09/08/12 08:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

DynGBreeD said:
That's total overkill. Fully colonized cakes are almost completely contam
resistant. There is no need whatsoever to back Vermiculite for a roll.

But yes, if your that worried you could waste your time/effort and put it
in the oven.



Ya people say that but If a piece of nutritious material, such as a small fleck of WBS, got into your bag and you rolled it on your cake you could end up with trich or something.
I bake for 20 min at 350 degrees and let cool in over overnight. I do all my hobbywork first thing in the morning after a fresh shower

That being said it IS being incredibly anal

Also theres no need at all to seal up your verm and what not.

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guitaristjon22 said:
the dry layer gets steam sterilized too sooo no problems there


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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: Grumpyorc]
    #16809957 - 09/08/12 08:32 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:

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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: Grumpyorc]
    #16809967 - 09/08/12 08:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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roaddog said:
:thumbup:




Best answer EVER!

:wink:

Yeah I don't keep my vermiculite sealed. No point.
It gets sterilized with the substrate. And unless
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Grumpyorc said:
Ya people say that but If a piece of nutritious material, such as a small fleck of WBS, got into your bag and you rolled it on your cake you could end up with trich or something.




this scenario plays out. I really don't think I'd sterilize for the roll.


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Re: Keeping an opened bag of vermiculite from being contaminated? [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #16810391 - 09/08/12 10:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I just leave my bag of verm open sitting on a shelf in my garage. :shrug:


Never had a problem with contams.  Just make sure your inoculation procedure is sterile and you're steam sterilizing your jars properly and you'll be fine.


Oh....and :thumbup:


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