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Is there something wrong with my horse poo?
    #16808934 - 09/08/12 12:04 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I got some free horse crap from a guy that had it laying around in a nice pile for a year or 2 and I decided to do my first dung experiment after preparing the poo in jars as outlined in RR's video. I used the horse crap from 3 jars immediately in the foil tray, and several days later it shows no sign of contamination and smells earthy and like straw.

But I had an extra jar of crap that I didn't have room for that's been sitting in a room at 80F for about 5 days now and I decided to pop it open just a few minutes ago, and it had the most nauseous gassy smell I ever had the displeasure of smelling, It was a terrible smell of something along the lines of a sulfur/shit/propane combo. :crazy2:  :puke:  :scat:  :hellokitty:.


Is there something wrong with my shit? Maybe it hasn't been leeched enough or something? Is this stuff any good? Oh I should add my Mexicube cake that i crumbled up into the tray seems to love it. But that smelly jar really concerns me.


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: LastBreath]
    #16809037 - 09/08/12 12:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You're probably smelling anaerobic bacteria, since you left the jar sealed up for a while. I wouldn't use the smelly jar.

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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: mindraped]
    #16809070 - 09/08/12 12:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like it. If properly pasteurized it shouldn't contaminate for a couple weeks. Either it wasn't pasteurized right or there was something else wrong with it, I definitely wouldn't spawn anything to it now.

I'd like to hear how the jars you've spawned already turn out.


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: Kizzle]
    #16810659 - 09/08/12 11:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I went further than the instructions in RR's video, he says to pastuerize at 140-160F for 1 hour, I did mine at 150-170F for an hour and a half just to be sure. My best guess would be that this stuff might not have been aged properly, I'm new to using Hpoo though.


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: LastBreath]
    #16810774 - 09/08/12 11:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There's no need to use higher temps but the reason (as mentioned already) your hpoo smells is that you've put it in a sealed jar for 5 days. This will occur whether the pasteurization was correct or not (170 is a little high). Once pasteurized the sub should be used ideally the next day though it will be okay to use for several days as long as you don't introduce it to anaerobic conditions.

I pasteurize in a pillow case and let the case sit in a tub in the open air til the next day.


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: Rahz]
    #16810790 - 09/08/12 12:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What is the reason poo should be pastuerized at 140-160? Why not just kill everything in it by boiling the jars at 200F+?


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: LastBreath]
    #16810812 - 09/08/12 12:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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What is the reason poo should be pastuerized at 140-160? Why not just kill everything in it by boiling the jars at 200F+?




Sterilizing it kills bacteria that aids mycelial growth.


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: LastBreath]
    #16810861 - 09/08/12 12:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If bulk substrates were sterilized they would contaminate more often when spawning because not everyone can have a hepa-clean room. Once sterilize any contaminate can fall onto the substrate and have no competition.

We pasteurize so that some helpful micro-organisms stick around, albeit they are stunned for a time.


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: LastBreath]
    #16810869 - 09/08/12 12:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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What is the reason poo should be pastuerized at 140-160? Why not just kill everything in it by boiling the jars at 200F+?




At 140 the pasteurization will kill 'bad' contams. This leaves beneficial microbes that will guard the substrate until it's colonized. Higher temps will work but 140 is ideal. If the temp is too high and the beneficial begin to die you're actually opening  up the substrate to contamination... unless you spawn/inoculate and colonize in a sterile environment (like PF for instance).

If you take a properly pasteurized sub and seal it, the 'good' microbes will multiply in the anaerobic environment and not just smell but also make it difficult for the mycelium to colonize.


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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: LastBreath]
    #16810891 - 09/08/12 12:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Was your horse poo in dried nuggets? It must be leeched via rain and sun , etc. Get a new load and break it up a bit. Let it dry in the sun before adding water to field capacity and pasteurizing @ 160F.

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Re: Is there something wrong with my horse poo? [Re: entheogenic_cowboy]
    #16811893 - 09/08/12 03:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yea they were pretty dry, a small amount of them still have green when you open them up, though I screened those ones out of my batch and didn't use them.


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