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Supporting Wild P. Cubensis
    #16788680 - 09/04/12 06:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So I searched for this and found some helpful info by searching "wild mushrooms" in this specific forum but I did not find a specific answer to my question.

I have horses and this is the first year I have found any strain worth cultivating, although I have not kept an extremely close watch. The mushrooms I found were fairly small but were identified for me as p. cubensis in the ID forum based off of very blue bruising, pictures, spore print, etc. Now I picked two of these small mushrooms for identification and left the other smallish but visible ones as well as lots of little ones just budding off of the horse manure. This was yesterday. Today, the small ones are all gone and the larger one is dried out. However, after looking in the couple piles where I remember them being, I luckily found lots of mycelium growing underneath a couple of the droppings as well as even a healthy pin.

My worry is that these won't make it and have only lived because they are on the underside of the lump of dung- once the pin grows bigger into a larger mushroom, I am afraid it will dry off; it is still pretty hot and these as well as several other mushrooms appeared after a few days of rain which cooled things down.

My question is if I can preserve these mushrooms and mycelia in anyway or perhaps transplant them to a fertile bed of manure where they can thrive and I can control the conditions better- obviously still outdoors. These are growing currently just in my backyard, which I will soon have to mow the grass of.

Is it even feasible? Would it be a good idea to eat these mushrooms growing wild outdoors, obviously contaminated? Although I feel like using used cakes in a manure bed outdoors would also equal contaminated mushrooms, in the sense that there would be bacteria and mold at least present in minute quantities on the mushroom without it overtaking the bed. And I know people probably eat wild p. cubensis mushrooms all the time.

Long question short, I want to know if I can support wild p. cubensis by my own efforts or, even better, transplant the mycelia and pins to a bed I have prepared with hay and horse manure so that this stuff can thrive instead of just survive. I am scared they will not make it if left where they are and that would be a shame.

If I have to take cultures and derive pure mycelia after several petri dishes I will just let nature take its course and not bother with these mushrooms. But if there's a chance, I might as well go for it!

Thanks for any help!

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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: electricvelvet]
    #16789797 - 09/04/12 10:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There is a chance.  Make the bed!  (just don't lie in it)  :-)

Not a lot of people on here are into outdoor grows, but I think it is the way to go for more people than realize it.

Give it the best chance you can, transport the piles with mycelium to the hay and poo bed, not too deep, somewhere you can water it if needed.  I like to cover my bed with plastic, tupperware lid, or something in case we are getting too much rain...

sprinkle some hay on top (or leaves for stealth) to keep humidity up...kick back and relax.

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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: TheDank]
    #16789808 - 09/04/12 10:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Also, you will find that soon you want to go digging around the pile to see how the mycelium is taking off (esp if this is your only pile)  so avoid that temptation if possible or only pick one corner to check if you are anxious to peek.

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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: electricvelvet]
    #16789944 - 09/04/12 10:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hooray, a reply! I will definitely try it then. I just needed someone to tell me there's a chance it could work, aha. How much rain is too much rain, anyhow? It's supposed to rain this week here, so I might have to move quickly.

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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: electricvelvet]
    #16790430 - 09/04/12 11:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

rain is good, soaking wet is too much if it stays that way for a week or more...a few light rains are fine, but with a cover over the patch you have more control, but may need to water by hand.

I found the growth to be quicker when moist, not wet.

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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: TheDank]
    #16790586 - 09/05/12 12:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If you are finding these little fellas in some piles they are growing naturally in your area. This won't be your last opportunity :smile: I have friends who have just collected mycelium poop/dirt and watered it with reasonable results (they grow naturally here too). Good luck!


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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: tropicalfrenzy]
    #16791185 - 09/05/12 05:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Also, if you find just one more then get a piece of aluminum foil and cut the cap off from the stem, and place the cap inside the little aluminum foil pocket you made.  Put this in a clean bowl, and put another clean bowl on top.  After a day or so, you should see a black spore print perfectly on the foil when you lift the cap.

Be as clean with this process as possible.

Next look up how to make up some grain jars or pf tek and have fun.

You can spawn those jars to the poo/hay mix outside.

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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: tropicalfrenzy]
    #16799300 - 09/06/12 03:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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tropicalfrenzy said:
If you are finding these little fellas in some piles they are growing naturally in your area. This won't be your last opportunity :smile: I have friends who have just collected mycelium poop/dirt and watered it with reasonable results (they grow naturally here too). Good luck!




Thing is I've lived here 6 years now and this is the first time I've found them, and there's been very few of them. That's why I'm so nervous not to lose them!

I haven't started yet, gonna make the bed and stuff today.

I found a new one sprouting up that looks healthy (not dried out yet) so I might leave it for a few days to see if it gets bigger then try to make a clean spore print from it.

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Re: Supporting Wild P. Cubensis [Re: electricvelvet]
    #16799415 - 09/06/12 03:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You've already got spores in the area, they just needed the right conditions. Just remember that by picking the shrooms before spores have dropped u possibly reduce the potential future generations. Not likely and not a major concern but I'd say don't waste them unless u plan on eating or using them for production.

You don't need to worry about contaminated shrooms, people have been eating shrooms from manure for a long time now. theyre fine to eat.


You have access to an unlimited supply of substrate (Shroom food) in the form of manure so you could keep playing about until u get it right. Also anything that goes wrong can be dumped outside to spread more mycelium about n kick start more growth.  You'll be looking for the older, rained, sun bleached poo that's been broken down a bit so that the nutrients are readily available.

I'd pf tek cakes are a nice introduction to inocculating and fruiting shrooms indoors. But you'll want to gear up to grain once ur ready.

If you want to increase the control you have over production you could make grain spawn (sterlised millet/ rye/ birdseed and spores) and then mix that up with manure and straw indoors to control the environment and get better flushes.



This should be a nice enough introduction to the topic
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16779361/page/1/gonew/1#UNREAD

def check out rogerrabbit's videos and stuff aswell. There are many ways of doing it and everyone has their opinions soIt's time for a lot of research :smile:  Good luck bro

(i'm not much of an outdoor grower and i'm sure there will be someone much more experienced who will chip in soon but the above advice should be a good steer in the right direction)

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