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11 days after spawning to coir (pics)
#16787264 - 09/04/12 02:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does this look A-OK? How much longer would you all say I have until full colonization. Feedback!
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Dyno]
#16787297 - 09/04/12 02:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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No telling maybe a week, maybe 2
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Dyno]
#16787302 - 09/04/12 02:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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did u take the lid off to take that picture?
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Revolutiontcm]
#16787311 - 09/04/12 02:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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What was your exact substrate mixture? Seems like something has slowed the colonization down a bit. Did you by chance add coffee? By all means, it does look ok but I usually see much more growth by that time. Could be many things that are making it different though.
But, it does look okay.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: JostVanDyke]
#16787344 - 09/04/12 02:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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JostVanDyke said: What was your exact substrate mixture? Seems like something has slowed the colonization down a bit. Did you by chance add coffee? By all means, it does look ok but I usually see much more growth by that time. Could be many things that are making it different though.
But, it does look okay.
50/50 coir tek. I added alot more water than what the tek called for, + about a half cup of gypsum, because the original 4.5 quarts was not enough to even get all of the coir wet. Not sure how much extra I added, maybe 2-3 quarts, but I made sure it was at field capacity.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#16787350 - 09/04/12 02:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: did u take the lid off to take that picture?
Cracked it open. 10 seconds tops. co2 is denser than air so I'm sure I didn't agitate the co2 content that much.
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Edited by Dyno (09/04/12 02:53 PM)
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Dyno]
#16787354 - 09/04/12 02:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dyno said:
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Notahacker420 said: did u take the lid off to take that picture?
Cracked it open. 10 seconds tops.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: JostVanDyke]
#16787364 - 09/04/12 02:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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let me guess.....you have all the holes taped and it's to wet.....if you did open the lid,that myc got a fresh breath of air and will speed up , but may pin early or contam
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#16787370 - 09/04/12 02:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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First of all its not 100%, so when u cracked it if any contams fell in there they might/could colonize the substrate before the mycellium.
NEVER OPEN UNTIL 100%
100% Colonization, FAE, and Evaporation are the main pinning triggers. By opening it up u may have inadvertenly introduced too much FAE and started the fruiting proccess.
NEVER OPEN UNTIL 100%
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Edited by PussyFart (09/04/12 02:56 PM)
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#16787377 - 09/04/12 02:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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But lets hopefor the best, it does look slow tho...mine was 100% on day 11 using 5 quarts of spawn at a 1-2 ratio
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#16787381 - 09/04/12 02:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's done is done, but always remember for the future to never open until it is fully colonized. Can't change it now. No sense getting mad or feeling dumb. You live, you learn.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: JostVanDyke]
#16787400 - 09/04/12 03:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: penhed]
#16787407 - 09/04/12 03:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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JostVanDyke said: What was your exact substrate mixture? Seems like something has slowed the colonization down a bit. Did you by chance add coffee? By all means, it does look ok but I usually see much more growth by that time. Could be many things that are making it different though.
But, it does look okay.
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Notahacker420 said: did u take the lid off to take that picture?
Cracked it open. 10 seconds tops. co2 is denser than air so I'm sure I didn't agitate the co2 content that much.
Never open it
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penhed said: let me guess.....you have all the holes taped and it's to wet.....if you did open the lid,that myc got a fresh breath of air and will speed up , but may pin early or contam
NEVER OPEN IT!!!
now the ACTUAL question that needed to be asked. you ready for it?
How did you pasturize your bulk sub
It looks to me like you fucked up the pasturizan. your tub should be almost done or at least past 50% 11 days after spawning. Most of my grows are about ready to fruit if not pinnning by 11 days after spawning.
try again and if you didnt pasturize like this thats your problemhttp://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11855255
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#16787412 - 09/04/12 03:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depending on where you live you have to adjust damion5050's tek somewhat. I live in a humid climate and cut the water he uses by half (2.5 quarts). Seems like it wouldnt be enough, as during some mixing parts I have to shove drier parts of the substrate underneath so they get some moisture. That said, I do test for field capacity before I start loading up tubs and it is spot on. After much trial and error of course.
If it is too wet it may not colonize fully, its what some of mine did that were too wet. Nevertheless I did get some fruits out of them.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Grumpyorc]
#16787428 - 09/04/12 03:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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the "put it in a bucket and pour boiling water on it" coir tek is FAIL it is a failure of the site admins IMO that that tek is still anywhere. it should be deleted with extreme prejudice. It DOES NOT work. If it works for you its just because coir is highly contam resistant and you got lucky, iv gotten away with using unpasturized coir before. so one jackass pours boiling water on it, gets lucky, and all of a sudden its a tek. iv seen more people fail with this......
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Grumpyorc]
#16787429 - 09/04/12 03:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grumpyorc said:
now the ACTUAL question that needed to be asked. you ready for it?
How did you pasturize your bulk sub
It looks to me like you fucked up the pasturizan. your tub should be almost done or at least past 50% 11 days after spawning. Most of my grows are about ready to fruit if not pinnning by 11 days after spawning.
try again and if you didnt pasturize like this thats your problemhttp://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11855255
I did what 99% of this forum told me to do, which is FTFT. I followed Damion5050s tek.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Dyno]
#16787440 - 09/04/12 03:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why am I all of a sudden hearing about all this tek bashing? Totally unheard of before now. Heard nothing but praise for this tek.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Grumpyorc]
#16787452 - 09/04/12 03:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grumpyorc said: the "put it in a bucket and pour boiling water on it" coir tek is FAIL it is a failure of the site admins IMO that that tek is still anywhere. it should be deleted with extreme prejudice. It DOES NOT work.
For u maybe not...but its working like a champ for me...
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#16787505 - 09/04/12 03:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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Grumpyorc said: the "put it in a bucket and pour boiling water on it" coir tek is FAIL it is a failure of the site admins IMO that that tek is still anywhere. it should be deleted with extreme prejudice. It DOES NOT work.
For u maybe not...but its working like a champ for me...

your getting lucky you should do it the actual way
and uhhh gimma a sec to look up ftft........
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: PussyFart]
#16787507 - 09/04/12 03:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will pasteurize mine with a stove an pot.
Not hatin on damiens bucket tek at all whatsoever! Very nice write up and has opened my mind..
Just personal preference.
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Grumpyorc]
#16787545 - 09/04/12 03:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grumpyorc said:
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Notahacker420 said:
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Grumpyorc said: the "put it in a bucket and pour boiling water on it" coir tek is FAIL it is a failure of the site admins IMO that that tek is still anywhere. it should be deleted with extreme prejudice. It DOES NOT work.
For u maybe not...but its working like a champ for me...

your getting lucky you should do it the actual way
and uhhh gimma a sec to look up ftft........
I am following the fucking tek...thats why its working...I will not switch until I get massive failures...im talkin of epic proportions...thanks tho
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: TheApprentice]
#16787559 - 09/04/12 03:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya that tek sucks. I know everyone loves it but its unscientific, ameatur, and unreliable. it'll screw you eventually and has probably fucked the OP on his first try
his bulk sub was at field capacity im sure he used a clean tub etc. if he is smart enough to create spawn he is smart enough to spawn it he is obviously smart enought to follow every tek to the letter. the hole is he used an incredibly shitty and overrated pasturization tek that everyone loves becasue coir kicks ass and works half the time without even being pasturized
seriously wet a block of coir and just let it sit there, it takes like a week to contam.
everyone worth thier salt knows that tub should be more colonized by now anyone worth thier salt knows theres not too much condensation in that tub and that condensation can vary depending on like 5 different things
the only other thing i could say is that perhaps your sub is WAAAAYYYY to wet. and i mean WAAAYYY to wet. but i dont think thats the case
follow the link i provided. its a rewrite of a tek RR invented.
RR reccomends it and iv even seen him comment on the boiling water tek. i wish i could find it now...
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Re: 11 days after spawning to coir (pics) [Re: Grumpyorc]
#16787570 - 09/04/12 03:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh yea and iv opened tubs early and had them survive but seriously it really does mess up like 50% of the time when you do it
i know i sound like a dick but you did everything right OP you just got snagged by that shitty tek,
you should try again and you will succeed
look up doc_t 's mini mono and make your tub like that, pasturize correctly
youll never do it a different way promise
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