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moeburn
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Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom?
#16786781 - 09/04/12 01:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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So in order to figure out why my mushrooms are very weak in the psylocibin department, I need to know exactly what mass I am consuming. The last time I tried they were very weak, and my scale said "2.5g", but I dont think they were completely dry, as they didn't crumble when I smushed them. So I have a few questions that have probably been answered before, but I prefer the human interaction if you don't mind 
1) Whats the easiest, cheapest way to dry them? At the moment, I have them in a shoebox with some packs of "silica gel" and a couple pieces of paper towel, and they are drying very slowly. Could I add a fan, or sunlight to speed things up? I tried doing it in the fridge as someone previously suggested, but the fridge wasn't allowing them to dry, possibly because it is a sealed environment? Are they going to get moldy?
2) Whats the average ratio of wet mass:dry mass of cubensis? Something like 10:1?
3) Since I can't be quite sure if I've reached 100% dryness, does anyone know the average mass of an average dry or wet mushroom (say 2.5" tall with a 0.75" cap)?
4) How can I tell if they are completely dried? Should they crumble into dust like dry cannabis, or do their internal fibres still remain malleable?
Thanks for any help!
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...and of this humongous fungus among us, more of its core's spores are creeping out of the drawer, pouring over the floor, and soaring through the door. Do not ignore this lore, for the spores are their precious ore. - moeburn
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Edited by moeburn (09/04/12 01:09 PM)
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16786868 - 09/04/12 01:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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i just put them in a box and put a fan on top aimed right on them.
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Re: Drying <nobr><a id="FALINK_3_0_2" class="FAtxtL" href="#">techs</a></nobr>, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16786880 - 09/04/12 01:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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moeburn said: 1) Whats the easiest, cheapest way to dry them?
If u plan on growing for a bit, get a food dehydrator...thrift store or ebay.
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moeburn said:
2) Whats the average ratio of wet mass:dry mass of cubensis? Something like 10:1?
Yea, whatever it weighs wet just move the decimal point to the left one spot, that will be about what it will weigh dry.
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moeburn said:
3) Since I can't be quite sure if I've reached 100% dryness, does anyone know the average mass of an average dry or wet mushroom (say 2.5" tall with a 0.75" cap)?
About a tenth of the wet weight.
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moeburn said:
4) How can I tell if they are completely dried? Should they crumble into dust like dry cannabis, or do their internal fibres still remain malleable?
Thanks for any help!
They are cracker dry when they snap like a cracker...usually 6-10 hrs in a dehydrator using heat.
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16786883 - 09/04/12 01:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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cuz he types faster than me
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: jenkinz]
#16786891 - 09/04/12 01:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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jenkinz said:
cuz he types faster than me
hahahahahaa...and im slow...lol
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: PussyFart]
#16787085 - 09/04/12 02:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea a food dehydrator is the way forward. Cracker dry mmmmm
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moeburn
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16787136 - 09/04/12 02:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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well obviously a food dehydrator would be ideal, I could have figured that out myself :P
But I'm a poor student, where every $ saved counts, and I was wondering if there were any cheaper ways. Maybe using a 40w incandescent bulb for heat? What temperature should I use to avoid killing any alkaloids?
Thanks for the replies, folks!
-------------------- Everything I have posted on the shroomery.org forums is completely fictional and created out of my own mind. Any similarity to any current or past event is purely coincidental.
...and of this humongous fungus among us, more of its core's spores are creeping out of the drawer, pouring over the floor, and soaring through the door. Do not ignore this lore, for the spores are their precious ore. - moeburn
"Repugnant is the creature who would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, while conscious of their fleeting time here." - Maynard Keenan
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: PussyFart]
#16787141 - 09/04/12 02:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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jenkinz said:
cuz he types faster than me
hahahahahaa...and im slow...lol
You're just much more precise and to the point than I am. I type fast as shit but tend to be wordy
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16787184 - 09/04/12 02:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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moeburn said: well obviously a food dehydrator would be ideal, I could have figured that out myself :P
But I'm a poor student, where every $ saved counts, and I was wondering if there were any cheaper ways. Maybe using a 40w incandescent bulb for heat? What temperature should I use to avoid killing any alkaloids?
Thanks for the replies, folks!
The actives in mushrooms dont break down until far past 200F...most dehydrators dont make it past 165F...
no not a light bulb...again check your local thrift stores for a 5 or 10 dollar dehydrator....if u plan on only doing a couple of grows then get some damprid, fan dry them for 24-48hrs then place them in an airtight container with damprid for 24-48hrs
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Edited by PussyFart (09/04/12 02:26 PM)
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moeburn
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: PussyFart]
#16787283 - 09/04/12 02:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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moeburn said: well obviously a food dehydrator would be ideal, I could have figured that out myself :P
But I'm a poor student, where every $ saved counts, and I was wondering if there were any cheaper ways. Maybe using a 40w incandescent bulb for heat? What temperature should I use to avoid killing any alkaloids?
Thanks for the replies, folks!
The actives in mushrooms dont break down until far past 200F...most dehydrators dont make it past 165F...
no not a light bulb...again check your local thrift stores for a 5 or 10 dollar dehydrator....if u plan on only doing a couple of grows then get some damprid, fan dry them for 24-48hrs then place them in an airtight container with damprid for 24-48hrs
Thanks for the temp info. Why not a lightbulb? I have a precise digital thermometer (yeah I could afford that, lol) sitting with the cut-up shrooms to make sure they don't get hotter than 200f (98*C in my canadian case). I've got them sitting 2" above a 40w bulb, and right now they're at 40*C. I think it could work just fine.
-------------------- Everything I have posted on the shroomery.org forums is completely fictional and created out of my own mind. Any similarity to any current or past event is purely coincidental.
...and of this humongous fungus among us, more of its core's spores are creeping out of the drawer, pouring over the floor, and soaring through the door. Do not ignore this lore, for the spores are their precious ore. - moeburn
"Repugnant is the creature who would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, while conscious of their fleeting time here." - Maynard Keenan
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16787286 - 09/04/12 02:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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because just heat doesnt do it....u need dry air blowing on them
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: PussyFart]
#16787315 - 09/04/12 02:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: because just heat doesnt do it....u need dry air blowing on them
ah, thanks. I will switch the lightbulb for my low-power space heater. The electric heating element dries the fuck out of the air, and then it uses a fan to blow air across the heating element. I'm pretty sure that cheap food dehydrators are just enclosed versions of this.
-------------------- Everything I have posted on the shroomery.org forums is completely fictional and created out of my own mind. Any similarity to any current or past event is purely coincidental.
...and of this humongous fungus among us, more of its core's spores are creeping out of the drawer, pouring over the floor, and soaring through the door. Do not ignore this lore, for the spores are their precious ore. - moeburn
"Repugnant is the creature who would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, while conscious of their fleeting time here." - Maynard Keenan
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16787324 - 09/04/12 02:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes they actually are...lol....its a lot better than a bulb tho...
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
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SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: moeburn]
#16787330 - 09/04/12 02:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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You could make a 40w ez-bake shroom dehydrator.
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Re: Drying techs, dry-vs-wet mass, avg mass of single mushroom? [Re: jenkinz]
#16787336 - 09/04/12 02:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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