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Would this idea work?
    #16782685 - 09/03/12 04:52 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys, I am just finishing my PF Tek with disappointing results, not very high yields and the like and I'm ready to move on to a tek that produces higher more potent yields at quicker speeds, so I've chosen bulk substrate monotub tek out of all of them as I've heard of tremendous yields if done right. I was wondering if the list I have composed of would be everything I need to start a good monotub grow.

My list:
-4 quart jars of grain spawn with self healing injectors
-10 1 lb 50/50 Horse Manure and Straw Mix Mushroom Substrate
-Golden Teacher Spore Syringe
-Roughneck Storage Box - 14 gal
-Feit Electric ESL40TN/D 42-Watt Compact Fluorescent High-Wattage Bulb, Daylight
-Polyfill

Would this be everything I need to start this grow? Anything else or any other things? Would any light work better or do I need sterilized rye bags instead? Any useful tips would be awesome, thanks in advanced guys!


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16782734 - 09/03/12 05:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I commented on your original post before it disappeared.  You supply list will work, but your going at it the most expensive way possible by buying the pre sterilized jars and substrate.  I didn't get to see the bin though, is it clear?


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16782745 - 09/03/12 05:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

If done right, I think you'll do fine. I would add some verm to the poo/straw substrate mix to help retain moisture but it probably won't matter much. Just make sure you pasturize the compost well.

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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16782833 - 09/03/12 05:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

No, should I get a clear one instead?


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16782844 - 09/03/12 05:27 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Clear is convenient, but if you like DIY projects, you can always cut a hole in the lid and install a plexi glass window to let the light in.  You gotta have a way to get that light to shine in :smile:


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: sharkeye]
    #16782851 - 09/03/12 05:28 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

What would be the best method for pasteurization?


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16782856 - 09/03/12 05:29 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Just have to cut out a square from the lid and cover with plastic wrap, seal with tape. Works like a charm. Pics in sig are first flush from a non-clear tub.

/e lol woops, wrong stuff


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: iwaspwnd]
    #16782898 - 09/03/12 05:36 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Lol, iwaspwnd, you had me worried there for a minute :smile:

Saran wrap works too, I just like to take the DIY projects all the way :smile:

The important thing is that you have a window for the light to get in through.  A benefit of the plexi glass is that it's sturdy enough that you can put that bulb in a desk lamp and set it on top of the FC.


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16782915 - 09/03/12 05:38 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Also, what strain would create the highest yields? Penis Envy?


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16782927 - 09/03/12 05:40 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yah, typing to fast for my brain sometimes :shrug:

I would take the plexiglass route if you want to reuse the tub, definitely more durable.

Now I've read that direct light isn't the best but as it was my only option at the time I used something clear. Wouldn't a foggy/frosted glass type be better?


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16782933 - 09/03/12 05:41 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Cubes are cubes.  Yield weight tends to average out across all flushes.  PE is a mutant that's known to have higher potency than most cubes.  If you want thick, meaty stipes, African Transeki and Ecuador are a couple great varieties to cultivate.

Clear plexi glass worked great for me with the desk lamp method :thumbup:


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16783039 - 09/03/12 06:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I had a lengthy reply written for this but the thread disappeared when I tried to post it.

Anyway, I'm surprised that a site sponsor is selling grain jars with syringe filters for GE. They should know that those filters are notorious for restricting GE too much and causing stalled growth.

Those filters are good for LC's and air displacement on sterile water containers, but not grain jars.

The following pick shows an ideal LC jar fully assembled with a grain jar lid next to it just for reference. A few here might be surprised to see me posting up LC related pics, but yes I tried them out and acquired many reasons to preach against their use as many here see me do regularly.



OP, you could get a lot more bang for your buck by just assembling and preparing all of this yourself.

Injector ports can be emulated by a simple dab of RTV red automotive silicone. Or if you wanna be fancy and still stay on budget, you could make some pop rivet injector ports (PRIP's)



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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: shamanamba]
    #16783071 - 09/03/12 06:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The PRIP tek is my favorite lid tek :smile: I love DIY equipment, and the PRIP lids are just cool as hell and down right useful :smile:


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: TheDeathryder]
    #16783136 - 09/03/12 06:26 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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The PRIP tek is my favorite lid tek :smile: I love DIY equipment, and the PRIP lids are just cool as hell and down right useful :smile:





ya I like these lids a lot. I only get the regular mouth quart sized jars for my grains because I can use these on grain jars too. They're just sorta universal lol









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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: shamanamba]
    #16783342 - 09/03/12 07:06 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyway, I'm surprised that a site sponsor is selling grain jars with syringe filters for GE. They should know that those filters are notorious for restricting GE too much and causing stalled growth.

Those filters are good for LC's and air displacement on sterile water containers, but not grain jars.










With this knowledge, should I get the rye grain spawn bags instead?


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16783349 - 09/03/12 07:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I would get a pressure cooker, some empty quart jars, and make my own rye jars with those awesome PRIP lids :smile:


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16783368 - 09/03/12 07:11 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

The easiest way for grain jars by far is to drill one hole and stuff it with polyfil. I do it, hasnt failed me yet.

I also use a double layer of tyvek in conjunction with polyfil under the metal lid sometimes, not recommended but it saves me from having to clean the lid.

EDIT: Make your own jars, it saves u soo much money.


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: PussyFart]
    #16783464 - 09/03/12 07:27 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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should I get the rye grain spawn bags instead?




Although I've never used spawn bags, I've heard nothing but great things about them from all the best minds in the field of mushroom cultivation. Definitely a wise investment if you decide to go that rout. Just make sure to get some nice ones so you can get a at least a few good uses out of each one.


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Make your own jars, it saves u soo much money.





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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: shamanamba]
    #16783982 - 09/03/12 09:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I see, what substrate colonizes the fastest, rye, birdseed, corn?


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Re: Would this idea work? [Re: puffpuff23]
    #16784012 - 09/03/12 09:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Colonization speed depends more on how loose the substrate is, and how vigorous the mycelium is (genetics).  Rye and birdseed generally colonize at the same rate.  I can't comment on corn as I haven't seen anyone use it.


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