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Hellyen
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Water bottle LC
#16773007 - 09/01/12 07:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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First off props to the Shroomery, taught me everything I know plus gave me some ideas. Thats why I'm going to share the way I make LC's. Not only is it super easy, it is cost/time efficient as well. So here's how ya do it: Things Needed 1) water bottle (thin plastic eg. Kroger brand water bottles desired) 2) Honey. I use honey.. Can use sugar etc. etc. Not here to teach on that. 3) Spores/Myc. I'll be using the last CC of a spore syringe for this guide. 4) Clean workspace. I use oven door technique. I've read techs where guys go as far as jumping in the shower and then work naked. Lol do what you want but I've had 100% success with oven door. If you don't know its preset your oven to 300 then set it to 250 while you work. The idea being as hot air rises keeps workspace clean. Science, bam. Use it, or don't.
So in your clean working space pour out approximately half of the water bottles contents. Do whatever with it, hell drink it.

Now take your honey and pour it into the water bottle opening.

Now you need to take your syringe and simply squirt some in. As I said I'm using the last CC of a spore syringe.

That's that. Put the cap on and give it a good shake. Place the bottle in your closet or wherever you put your jars.

Okay, now the way we introduce air is this: Once to twice a day take your water bottle and loosen the cap very very slightly. Only loosen it enough so that when the plastic is squeezed, air escapes. Squeeze it until the water very nearly comes out.. as you release the plastic air will be sucked back into the bottle. Your bottle cap acts as a sort of filter. Now we are already making an LC like MacGyver so don't squeeze more than you need to. Honestly some days I think I neglected it, it needs oxygen but not tons of it. Also after doing this several times your bottle will start to warp a bit. No problem at all, this isn't a beauty contest.
And Ten Days later we have

Now its back to your clean working space. Take the water bottle LC and your syringe. You will need to sterilize the syringe. I PC'ed my syringe to sterilize it but also there is the boiling water technique. I also washed the water bottle with soap and water as well as my hands. Shake up your LC then plunge in your syringe and fill her up.

You know the rest.. Inject your jars.

Now if you did everything properly, and sterile, 3 days later should have something like this.

Yes I have tin foil on my jars still. I had a gnat problem before and feel more secure with them on. So deal do it your way on you're grow.
So that's pretty much it. just use your LC and info from this post and others to have an infinite supply of LC's. This tek requires no pressure cooker, so hopefully it helps some people out. I have a pressure cooker and still prefer this method. If your using one of your jars for an LC, turn it into a grow jar. Let me know how it goes I am interested. Any questions please ask. Thanks!!!!! I posted this in advanced mycology but think this is the proper forum instead... Seems a bit snobby over there. Admin plz feel free to delete my post there. Plus only do this if you have some idea what the hell you're doing. I didnt come up with this for newbs.. Even though one could totally do this. Mushrrooms arent hard ppl seriously
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Edited by Hellyen (09/02/12 10:03 PM)
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773044 - 09/01/12 07:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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So many problems with your sterile technique.. Don't know where to start..
/e - Editing with relevant info as I find it.
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RogerRabbit said: A hot oven creates wind currents which draw contaminants into the work area, increasing the rate of contamination. We've known this since about 24 hours after some idiot posted that original 'tek', yet it keeps getting repeated time and time again, screwing up ever more new growers in the process. RR
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Hellyen said: So in your clean working space pour out approximately half of the water bottles contents. Do whatever with it, hell drink it.
Now take your honey and pour it into the water bottle opening.
Now you need to take your syringe and simply squirt some in. As I said I'm using the last CC of a spore syringe.
Drinking from the bottle will only introduce germs to the LC. You're supposed to pre-mix the ingredients then pressure cook to create a sterile environment. Then sterilize the needle with a flame to inoculate. You should also have self sealing ports for sterility.
..read some teks.
Edited by iwaspwnd (09/01/12 07:58 PM)
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SimpleFarmer



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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: iwaspwnd]
#16773060 - 09/01/12 07:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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iwaspwnd said:
So many problems with your sterile technique.. Don't know where to start..

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Hellyen
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773087 - 09/01/12 07:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay... I wish you would tell me. I figured there would be doubters because its such a simple techniqe. Thats why i added pictures and didnt post back when it was an idea. I posted when I had proof. Just because you dont know shit or are too scared dont doubt my inoculated jar. Buddy. I have better shit to do than lie on here.
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773098 - 09/01/12 07:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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How many times with 100% success rate? and this is what lc is sposta look like
Edited by SimpleFarmer (09/01/12 07:49 PM)
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Hellyen
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773114 - 09/01/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay so u disagree with the oven tech. Point is I use it and it works. My tech isnt about clean working space. Thats just what i use. And the tech works So if you get off on being an internet snob enjoy yourself. Point is this works. Ive tweaked every tech ive read do the same. But save your stupid Red Foreman emotes. Cuz working space cleanliness aside this tek beats all the other shit out there.
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773123 - 09/01/12 07:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Again ... How may times have you done this ?
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iwaspwnd
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I would like to see some fruiting pics.
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773159 - 09/01/12 08:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Over 20 jars no contams. I know theres better ways but as cost is involved seems unnecessary. I agree your LC has a better look. But still myc is microscopic and doesnt need to be as gooey as you think to perform. I believe i used too little honey why my water is not more yellow. Also if u pc with honey i think that darkens it. Anyway you can see the white clumps, and it does work. Someone get the balls to try it. I thought this up because You are all overthinking it. Frankly all the doubt makes me wonder why I shared. But someone will get useful info out of it i hope. TRY it it works.
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773188 - 09/01/12 08:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol microscopic myc is not lc homie .. You need to be able to see the myc .. How long did you leave it in the bottle? I understand you already said it but
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773191 - 09/01/12 08:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Again, I would like to see some fruiting pics, I just imagine they're full of germs and don't produce very well.
Just read some LC teks, there are some cheap ones. Check out the baby bottle one.
Spending 10 bucks to get a proper LC that won't contaminate is worth way more than failed attempts.
Edited by iwaspwnd (09/01/12 08:08 PM)
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773203 - 09/01/12 08:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hellyen said: TRY it it works.
sometimes yes, but LC from spores is sketchy anyways...spores are never 100% clean because the caps were fruited in the open air... the darkening u are referring to when PCing is crystallization of the sugars.
Why tell people do try something that would more than likely get them contams...ur sterile technique sux.
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Edited by PussyFart (09/01/12 08:11 PM)
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SimpleFarmer



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A$10 tub or an oven that worked for a guy... Hmm . no disrespect but its not good info for alot of noobs bc most of the time people have bad results when trying this ..
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Hellyen
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773235 - 09/01/12 08:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im on the third flush of shrooms grown from my water bottle lc. With a syringe full to start another in the fridge. Need to go to Kroger. As i didnt say in tech thin plastic makes it easier to insert needle. Why is everyone doubtful ive done many grows never one contam. I think some of you must just be dirty ppl. Try it what do you have to lose? A water bottle. I think alot of you dont want to realize you do unnecessary steps. I get it you all are critiqing my oven method. Point is what works works. And this is also easy.
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen] 1
#16773269 - 09/01/12 08:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Na I will stick to my SAB and agar
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Hellyen
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773276 - 09/01/12 08:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I said your LC was better. But you can still see white clumps if u look at the pic. Get some glasses Homey. Plus doubt doubt all u want thats why i posted pics. Shit works get over the fact you do extra bs. Smarter not harder. HOMEY.
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773298 - 09/01/12 08:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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there is no pics of mushies sir I can make mold gorw in a brf jar that looks like your little splach ..
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SimpleFarmer said: Na I will stick to my SAB and agar 
Agreed.
Only did PF tek once then moved to mono's. Would love to do a method like this and have many many jars of wbs contaminate. Got a free PCer that only holds 3 qt jars at a time so it takes me all day to PC my grains. Would be lots of wasted time.
I can almost understand doin' something like this if you're extremely lazy and you can isolate the problem cakes with it.... But Couldn't really recommend it then even.
Again, 10-15$ would make you worry a lot less for proper LC jar(s).
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Hellyen
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773327 - 09/01/12 08:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok SimpleFarmer. I tripped on 5 grams earlier today. So you want pics of my FC? Will that make you shut up... Ive got to fan them anyway and can snap a shot. ike i said just redunked for third flush... Will that make u stfu?
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Re: Water bottle LC [Re: Hellyen]
#16773337 - 09/01/12 08:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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So let me guess they are all picked bc of the 5 grams you ate? EDIT: I guess I should say lc from ms
Edited by SimpleFarmer (09/02/12 08:45 PM)
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