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Neomicologiest
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panicing
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my question is this i have one jar that seems to be ahead of the curve its already starting to pin but its not fully colonized yet by that i mean there is a little spot about half the size of a dime thats still not covered by the growing fungi so what should i do should i birth it or let it wait? i just don't the pins to get smashed up against the glass which i think is already happening? I know i should be looking around the forums for an answer but i'm a little occupied right now.
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Usually if the jar pins before 100% colonization its a sign of a contaminate.
However seeing how yours is so close, I would wait it out and allow it to finish. Also dunking your cakes with Pins is FINE, do not remove them just be gentle removing the cakes from the jars.
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Neomicologiest
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okay cool, thanks dyng i mean its just one pin so is it still an accurate sign? and awesome you answered my next question haha
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If the un-colonized spot is really that small, then I would wait. if it was say 10% or more of the jar then I would say ditch it IMO. Also I've had spots like that... Turned out it was just verm stuck to the side of the glass jar when I birthed the cake.
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well a few of my other jars are like this minus pinning their are areas that just look like its covered in verm and everything else looks ready should i post images?
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Post the pics. Sometimes vermiculite from the dry layer falls down the sides as the gap between the cakes and the glass widens.
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Re: panicing [Re: Kizzle]
#16766357 - 08/31/12 03:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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kizzle i shall later on tonight right now my hands are tied unfortunately.
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Neomicologiest
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theres the picture of my jar thats being overly active its already starting to pin I recheck the "verm spot" and it shrank and is now goldish dark brown I think thats where a pin is going to start forming? A reason for its activities is its contaminated, I'd say its due from using a correct amount to inoculate that jar with. Even though I know this correct amount if excess can actually hinder the jar more than anything so its probably not that i mean every other jar seems close behind it I think im going to start birthing them?
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=P
i guess youre fine. =P
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Neomicologiest
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yeah i guess so i wanted to start birthing tonight but i think waiting one more night wont me to detrimental would it?
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its ok man. all good.
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You should still dunk it for 24 hours and try not to knock the pin off. Seen some in vitro pins grow pretty huge once they're in proper fruiting conditions.
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if you have pins, you are doing good. stop worrying about dumb stuff you are ok follow the teks (the mill of them) and you will be ok if it dosent work out, learn from it don't make other people decide if you make it or brake it you have control, keep control...
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@snakeinthegrass - i like your response, and i was just checking because of this whole "possible contaminated". I think its going to be odd dunking the one jar while 22 others just sit there trying to colonize haha
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I kind-of have the same thing going. I have 3 going and 9 sitting, So I'm gonna make a casting with one and leave the others as cakes.... never know..
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sorry if this necro bumps my thread but I'm almost positive now its contamination because the pin heads are starting to abnormally darken and appear to be getting fuzzy I forget what this is called but I read you can let these pins it would just be small mushrooms or something along these lines, can i get some confirmation on this?
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aborts? aborts are normal in small amounts
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Sounds like aborts.... And the fuzziness is do to lack of Fresh Air Exchange 
Picture!
EDIT: Are the cakes in fruiting now? Or still in the jars?
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Edited by DynGBreeD (09/04/12 11:08 AM)
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I've birthed the one that i thought was finished colonizing, and yes it looks like aborts and how do i improve my air exchange should i get a fan and place it on top of the FC? also i feel i may have made the fc with too few holes as well
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1/4 Inch holes every 2 inches on all 6 sides.
No Fan, it will dry out your substrates.
Manually Fan moar.
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What kind of fc?
A shotgun fruiting chamber does not require afan but does require 1/4" holes every 2" on ALL 6 sides and 4-5" of perlite.
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I'm doing a shot gun fc and yes i need to fan it out today, im also noticing that the stalks are turning brownish brown streaks Is this from lack of watering them?
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Fanning it out is ok a couple times a day after u mist, of course. But not a fan running on all day or on any kind of schedule or in the same room...
Stripes on the stems are normal.
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okay now my fan question is the smallest i have is a 9inch fan I'm assuming this wont matter because im just fanning out the FC for a short duration theirs the lone ranger my only on growing atm, also i worry about my FC because its not very foggy on the sides of the walls so i believe my humidity reader is a bit off.
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That poor cake....
It screams FRESH AIR!!!!!!
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a properly constructed SGFC will have 95% humidity...not fog....when u mist and u get the walls wet, the moisture on the walls should be gone in a couple hours...if not u need more FAE....u cannot see or feel humidity.
and yea a 9 inch fan on low will work....just mist your cakes and use the fan to get rid of the old air in the FC and replace it with new, fresh air. This way the water u just misted can evaporate, which cause pinning.
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Edited by PussyFart (09/04/12 02:08 PM)
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I know it is i can hear it all night while im trying to sleep so if i just keep fanning it out every day its conditions will improve?
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I only see one hole in your SGFC in that pic. I should be seeing a lot more.

EDIT: More holes = Proper SGFC = Fresh Air
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I know it won't have "fog" I just couldn't think of a better way to phrase it... well i guess saying condensation on the walls would probably have been more accurate
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just fan for 30 seconds to a minute a couple times a day after u mist...and make sure u have a properly built SGFC with 1/4" holes every 2" on ALL 6 sides with 4-5 inches of perlite and u will be perfect.
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Edited by PussyFart (09/04/12 02:11 PM)
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as for the holes its five by five on every side but the smaller ones which are either 3x5 of 4x5
well ill have more photos up later, I'm off to get a tap ruler because I really doubt i used 4-5 inches of perlite did this with out a way to measure ah me oh my lol.
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: I've never seen condensation in a shotgun terrarium. It sounds like either you don't have sufficient holes on all six sides, or you're heating it somehow. I can't imaging cakes putting out enough heat to cause condensation in a shotgun. RR
Temperature differential causes condensation. Warmer in your FC then it is outside. More holes.
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Neomicologiest said: as for the holes its five by five on every side but the smaller ones which are either 3x5 of 4x5
Give us a pic of the whole FC... How big is it?
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Neomicologiest said: I'm doing a shot gun fc
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Notahacker420 said: make sure u have a properly built SGFC with 1/4" holes every 2" on ALL 6 sides with 4-5 inches of perlite and u will be perfect.
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Neomicologiest said: as for the holes its five by five on every side but the smaller ones which are either 3x5 of 4x5

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Neomicologiest
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also here is a picture of my FC i took a month or two ago
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sweet im special I like how you quoted your self as well so i guess my best bet at this point is to throw away my FC my cake and start over?
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and one final thing wtf is this yellow stuff? Obviously this jar is contaminated as you can see half is grey mold and the other was good mycelium
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Neomicologiest said: and one final thing wtf is this yellow stuff? Obviously this jar is contaminated as you can see half is grey mold and the other was good mycelium 
Metabolites, mycelium is fighting.
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Early sign of contaminate.
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i have some other jars like this to a slight degree if i birthed them would it help any? yes they are pinning as well, or if i got a scalpel and removed the areas?
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those look like stones what did you innoc with at closer look nm
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a syringe of gold cap
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and I'm sure this isn't a real issue but one of fruits has fallen down and is laying on the perlite, and one of the caps has the gills exposed up from the base to the top of the cap kinda weird but I'm just making sure that i shouldnt worry about these things
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